Footballking16

Cathedral was really fortunate to win the first meeting. Center Grove had a very uncharacteristic 6 minutes of relegation or else they're still undefeated against Indiana teams going into their third consecutive state final. I still think Center Grove, Cathedral, and Brownsburg were the three best 6A teams I've seen this year but Carroll has a chance to join that discussion with a win next week.

That found running game has everything to do with the QB. That fact that IU only threw 7 passes…..and won, rectifies that.

Couple silver linings today. 1. IU found its QB for the future. Williams as a true dual-threat QB masks a bad offensive line and adds another dimension to the offense. Not caught up in the throwing numbers like some. Truth be told IU didn’t need to throw the ball to win today and Williams has enough zip on his ball to where I believe he’ll be a threat starting next year after getting a full years worth of reps with the starters in the offseason. 2. True freshman Jaylin Lucas likely just cemented his honors on the All-American team as a KR this afternoon. Leads all FBS in kickoff return average and now has taken two back to the house. Fellow true freshman Dasan McCullough should make the freshman All-American as well. Hope IU can keep those two around. 3. Resiliency. Can tell they’re still fighting for Allen. A coach who has lost the locker room wouldn’t have a team come back from that half time deficit. Still been an extremely frustrating year as there have been 2-3 games that could have resulted in wins, but you’d have to think a win over Purdue would be a huge boost of confidence heading into the offseason. While a bowl game is always the ultimate goal, I’d have to say going 5-7 given the way last year played out is a step in the right direction.

Gibson Southern loses to Owen Valley and this guy wants to cry about Chatard. Classic

Pretty ho-hum year for Chatard resulting in yet another trip to LOS. Cathedral and Roncalli were both on the cusp of potentially program defining seasons leaving ol Chatard in the shadows, Trojans get the last laugh. Still the best pound for pound program in the state in my opinion.

Don’t know about best, but it’s pretty evident that program can withstand just about anything. That’s a very good football team.

Got away from the Irish quick. Had two great drives to start the game and were absolutely gashing the Trojan D with the running game. Center Grove didn’t flinch. Thought Cathedral abandoned the run game way too early, pass protection was horrific. Center Grove once again proves why they are the class of 6A, stage never seems to big for them.

I'll let you know time and spot Saturday. Confirm you'll be here.

They are a 4A enrollment school who hasn't played in their technical classification in over a decade and don't see it happening anytime soon. I don't really think anyone looks at Cathedral as a 4A school (in terms of football) as they haven't played in a 4A tournament in years.

You sticking around for Saturday?

Point being Cathedral still won by 2 scores. Measuring final scores 2 months apart between common opponents is a terrible way to compare teams.

I have very little doubt in my mind that Cathedral would name the score if they played Penn again. They were out a couple starters including two D1 kids and still won by 2 scores.

That was tongue in cheek. I think the transitive property is an absolute terrible way to compare two teams. But if you're going to use it to make a comparison, at least use all the available data.

Ah the transitive property ehh? Cathedral beats Penn by 14 and Carroll beats Penn by 28 so therefore Carroll is better. Is that how it works? What about the running clock Cathedral implemented on Lafayette Jeff earlier in the year? The same Lafayette Jeff team who beats Carroll if the coach isn't throwing the ball inside the 10 yard line with a minute left in the game down 1 point.

It's been 2+ months since Carroll has seen Snider and North Side.

I watched the telecast replay against Jeff. Wasn’t impressed. Jeff wins that game if it weren’t for brutal coaching and terrible clock management. I’ve seen HSE play. I know the caliber of opponents that HSE has played all year and throughout the tournament. It’s night and day better than what Carroll has seen and Carroll will not present a challenge that will overwhelm HSE. HSE should be able to do what they want, when they want offensively and their defense will present a tough challenge for Carroll. But time will tell and that is ultimately why they play the game.

Because (it is of my opinion) that HSE is a much better football team than Carroll. And I mean that in the least disrespectful way possible.

Aren't you the one who brought travel into the equation?

Then what's the fuss? Aren't you the one that stated HSE was at a big disadvantage due to traveling? I wouldn't exactly call HSE and Carroll on equal footing.

At the end of the day it's a Jimmy's and Joe's thing. I could see the home team having the slight advantage if both teams were on equal footing, but at the end of the day a 2 hour bus ride isn't going to negate a night and day talent disparity

At the end of the day it's a Jimmy's and Joe's thing. I could see the home team having the slight advantage if both teams were on equal footing, but at the end of the day a 2 hour bus ride isn't going to negate a night and day talent disparity. I think HSE is 3+ scores better than Carroll and at the end of the day wouldn't matter if the game was played in Fort Wayne, Fishers, or on a different continent.

Warsaw went 7-2 and didn't beat a soul. They were pummeled by the two hardest toughest teams they played. Warsaw played the second easiest schedule of any 6A team in the state and didn't face a single 6A team the entire regular season. They made it to the sectional final by virtue of playing of playing another team who also wouldn't have qualified under my proposal. In a single elimination format, mathematically somebody had to win that game.

The 03 and 04 teams were very good. Nowhere near as big as this years team and even more one dimensional if you can believe it, but they were as physical as they came. 4A top to bottom probably tougher back then, Roncalli wasn't playing Shortridge and Attucks in sectionals back then.

Like the Brownsburg rematch, I expect this game to be a lot lower scoring and points may be at a premium. Irish run game and defense have come alive the last few weeks. If Cathedral takes care of the ball I like them in a nail bitter. I think they will. 17-14 Cathedral.

Not taking anything personal. A statistical improbability doesn't change my mind nor rationale that the current format is inherently flawed. A tournament that doesn't recognize regular season success will always enhance the probability of a slim outcome occurring and Monrovia is the prime example.