Frozen Tundra

So he has the south semi-state winners going 6-0 against the north semi-state winners.

You’re in! Good to have you!

Here are some scrimmage notes from assistant coaches about HHC teams last Friday night. Some of this is second-hand information so correct any of this if it’s wrong. -BNL was awful against Brownstown Central. -Jeffersonville got crushed by Madison. -Can’t get a good read on Seymour at the moment. Silver Creek was so bad against them that they literally apologized to Seymour afterwards. -Jennings County competed well with Shelbyville given what they ran. Apparently they held back a lot so as not to tip their hand against South Dearborn. -Columbus East is very young and inexperienced along the lines but their secondary was surprisingly superb. -Haven’t heard a thing about New Albany’s scrimmage with Scottsburg. -For Floyd Central, see @Fkfootball’s post on the previous page in this thread.

In comparison with the HHC, they won’t be bad. In comparison with 5A, I don’t know if they’re in the top 20. Maybe I’m wrong and you can let me know down the road but that’s the sense I’m getting based on what I’ve read and what I’ve been told.

Not that the HHC has ever been great but the vibe I’m getting is that every team is down this year. Floyd Central will just be less down than everyone else.

Hello folks. Another season of high school football is upon us and I’m excited to get it underway. As I’ve done the last four years, I will be running the 2024 HHC pick ‘em. If you are tagged, let me know if you hope to compete again this year. Others are welcome to join as well. Please note that you have to submit picks every single week before kickoff time if you want to be a part of the main competition. If you don’t, I will still allow you to submit picks and will display your totals in relation to others who failed to pick every game. However, you’ll be tabulated based on percentage and won’t be eligible to win the main competition. @boilerfan87 @LC_Bears_04 @Impartial_Observer @Fkfootball @Olympian06 @Uncle Bubba @Bulldog15 @Owls2005 @LawrenceGreene @billybob @swcgillespie @mamasa @starbacker Week 1 Games 5A #8 Bloomington South at Columbus East Franklin at New Albany Jeffersonville at 5A #4 Whiteland Jennings County at South Dearborn 6A #3 Louisville St. Xavier at Floyd Central 5A #9 Martinsville at BNL Seymour at Greenwood

We are. I wanted to post the schedule yesterday and tag everyone but I’m waiting for the media rankings to come out first. Should happen sometime today. I like to make sure I include both sets of rankings before posting the week’s schedule.

It’s proof that bipartisanship is good in theory but is usually a bad thing because it just means both parties came together to screw over the country.

I agree with you about the AC programs being available at BCSC elementary schools whereas they aren’t there in JCSC elementary schools. I wasn’t considering that in my original reply so I concede to you on that. I was strictly looking at it from a high school vs high school perspective. Given my background in education and my experiences with both school systems, I feel like I’m qualified to throw in my thoughts. I know both schools offer AP courses and both have students in C4 programs (although some travel may be required for JC kids in certain courses). The biggest difference between the two schools, though, is the clientele. I cannot overstate to you or anyone else how much of a role money plays into how well schools perform in the metrics. The more money your students’ families have the better they’re going to perform in school. I can tell you both schools have some great teachers who work very hard to ensure their students succeed. Unfortunately, the teachers at schools with a high poverty rate are going to struggle in comparison no matter how hard teachers try. It would be great if all students started at the same level development-wise and learned at the same rate. However, there are so many different levels students can start at and not all kids develop at the same rate. This is why the “No Child Left Behind Act” was one of biggest BS laws ever concocted and passed but I digress. I just want to make sure everyone understands that what the metrics are measuring isn’t reflective of the entire situation. There are some rare exceptions but, by and large, why do most schools outperform others in the metrics? As @Impartial_Observer stated, follow the money. That’s not an indictment of schools with richer clientele. More power to them. They’re not doing anything wrong. All I’m saying is that we need to consider the reasons for why some schools’ metrics are bad and not indict them for being bad (or lesser) schools.

What’s your point?

How are we comparing education here? If we’re comparing based on what’s offered then I don’t think it’s as far off (if at all) as you’d think. If we’re comparing based on performance then of course Columbus North is much better. Look at the clientele. It’s not a shock that a school with a much higher percentage of low income students is going to be outperformed.

In the Hoosier Hills Conference: -Columbus East at Whiteland -Jennings County at Shelbyville -Silver Creek at Seymour -Brownstown Central at Bedford North Lawrence -Jeffersonville at Madison -New Albany at Scottsburg -Floyd Central at Charlestown

Scrimmages tonight! Here’s who everyone has. -Columbus East at Whiteland. After years of scrimmaging Martinsville, East has replaced them with the Warriors. -Jennings County at Shelbyville. The Panthers now scrimmage the Golden Bears after years of scrimmaging Brownstown Central. -Brownstown Central at BNL. Yet another change in scrimmage opponents as BNL replaces Mitchell with the Braves. -Silver Creek at Seymour. No change here. -Floyd Central at Charlestown. No change. -Jeffersonville at Madison. The Red Devils replace Bloomington North with the Cubs. -New Albany at Scottsburg. No change.

I think that ship has sailed.

I’m very interested to see where this goes. If they expand beyond six then I think another conference realignment domino effect will take place.

How? I think simply checking the scores of those games would say otherwise.

Yeah I bet. I miss our 96 game HHC win streak. I could be wrong but I believe that was second-longest to Penn’s 153 straight NIC wins.

Yeah winning is only “boring” to people who aren’t fans of the team doing all the winning. From 2004-2020, I for sure wasn’t bored of all the winning Columbus East was doing. Blowing out conference opponents by multiple touchdowns every week for years wasn’t boring either. I’d love to have that again. Once all that “boring” winning stops, you definitely miss it.

I can believe that 😂

@Bulldog15 I’ve heard from two different sources that Parker Elmore has been ruled ineligible to play this year as a result of the article from The Republic in which it was explicitly stated his transfer was a result of athletic reasons. Is this true?

Who takes last? Will it be Terre Haute North again or does Southport return to the bottom?

I was hoping you would chime in. I needed that North perspective. Lol

Interesting. The Columbus East and Columbus North rivalry is somewhat like Floyd Central and New Albany. Put it to you this way. From my experience, it’s like a NASCAR rivalry. When we’re competing, we badly want to beat each other and there’s usually trash talk leading up to the week of the game/match/event. But any other time we’re hanging out with each other and mingling. Kind of similar to how Dale Earnhardt and Rusty Wallace hated each other on the track but then would hang out and go fishing the next day. I think the hatred is more for who we’re representing rather than for the people themselves. Like I can sit here and say I absolutely hate Columbus North. However, I’m not hating on the people that make it up. I just hate the school they represent. For instance, I cringe when I see North t-shirts but the people wearing them don’t bother me. Not sure if I’m getting my point across and describing it accurately. Hopefully I am and you can understand.

I get they’re your rival and all but it needs to be mentioned they’re one of three schools in this conference to have ever advanced to a “final four” in football and they’re the only one to do it in the last five years. Pretty good for a team that “tries to dribble the football”.

Sounds like BNL is extremely young and inexperienced. Lost a lot to graduation and some others due to transferring. I don’t know what New Albany has coming back but I’d guess Floyd Central is the favorite unless the Bulldogs have a lot of kids coming back. https://www.wbiw.com/2024/07/23/young-sassy-stars-look-ahead-to-future-success-with-final-summer-scrimmage/