23andCounting Posted March 6 Posted March 6 2 hours ago, Muda69 said: It doesn't, but that wasn't the point. You are the one who interjected "post season success" into the conversation. Individuals are touting New Palestine's football schedule as now "elite" where it is in reality that is not the case, not with a bunch of non-competitive, run-up-the-score, conference games year in and year out. Good point. I wouldn't categorize it as elite, but having IMG, Roncalli, and East Central certainly get's them close to that status. I guess, being that they are a 4A school playing in a 5A tournament, you could probably call their schedule elite. I wouldn't define it elite by 6A standards. That's reserved for the HCC, MIC, Carroll, and Homestead. But it certainly prepares them for a 5A state title. Quote
PDB26 Posted March 6 Posted March 6 20 hours ago, Sparty said: ***cartel money? In junior hockey you get a lot of "programs" with multiple teams that are for sure using fees from the lesser players chasing opportunities and scholarships to subsidize their best players. I imagine there's plenty of subsidizing going on at IMG. Quote
Robert Posted March 6 Posted March 6 23 hours ago, 23andCounting said: It's really just opinions. No harm no foul. Coaches claim they don't read these forums anyway. Every coach I've taught with reads the forum. 🙂 2 1 Quote
Sparty Posted March 6 Posted March 6 54 minutes ago, PDB26 said: In junior hockey you get a lot of "programs" with multiple teams that are for sure using fees from the lesser players chasing opportunities and scholarships to subsidize their best players. I imagine there's plenty of subsidizing going on at IMG. I’m sure but I’m legitimately asking, is it cartel money, as IMG was linked to Mexican drug cartels. Don’t know what ever came of that. Quote
PDB26 Posted March 6 Posted March 6 24 minutes ago, Sparty said: I’m sure but I’m legitimately asking, is it cartel money, as IMG was linked to Mexican drug cartels. Don’t know what ever came of that. What was reported was that two families with links to Mexican cartels paid their tution with money transfers out of Mexico. Apparently these families were on a list that should have precluded IMG taking those payments. Probably more country club sport families if I had to guess. 1 Quote
Coach Nowlin Posted March 6 Posted March 6 24 minutes ago, PDB26 said: What was reported was that two families with links to Mexican cartels paid their tution with money transfers out of Mexico. Apparently these families were on a list that should have precluded IMG taking those payments. Probably more country club sport families if I had to guess. it started as a Tennis prep factory originally Quote
PDB26 Posted March 6 Posted March 6 4 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said: it started as a Tennis prep factory originally Yes, exactly. 1 Quote
crimsonace1 Posted March 6 Posted March 6 22 hours ago, Justasportsfan said: Im just hoping to watch the game, any chance of ESPN picking it up? No, but New Pal streams all of its home games on IHSAAtv. 3 Quote
crimsonace1 Posted March 6 Posted March 6 21 hours ago, 23andCounting said: I can't imagine any 6A programs saying no. East Central is 4A and they bit. I'm sure there's a handful of 5A teams who'd accept the challenge. I doubt Dwenger, East Noble, or Mishawaka would say "no." I honestly think IMG came calling and New Pal said, "lets do it." I'm sure they would have found someone to fill the spot. Just my perspective from the outside looking in. There are 6A programs who have said no. They don't want to be embarrassed by losing to a "small school." Thankfully, Westfield and Center Grove have not been among them ... each has played a home-and-home with New Pal, which kinda blows holes in the "New Pal doesn't play anybody" theory. (Every non-conference opponent NP has scheduled in the Kyle Ralph era has played on Thanksgiving weekend in the last decade). 5 Quote
crimsonace1 Posted March 6 Posted March 6 5 hours ago, Muda69 said: It doesn't, but that wasn't the point. You are the one who interjected "post season success" into the conversation. Individuals are touting New Palestine's football schedule as now "elite" where it is in reality that is not the case, not with a bunch of non-competitive, run-up-the-score, conference games year in and year out. The teams that struggled to compete - Shelbyville & New Castle - have left the conference. Pendleton Heights was ranked most of last year. Yorktown gave Roncalli its best game of the tournament until Thanksgiving weekend. Mt. Vernon had a lousy year last year but has a state championship this decade. Greenfield-Central has consistently put up winning seasons of late. And new additions Brebeuf, Guerin Catholic and Lebanon are all solid programs. 1 Quote
23andCounting Posted March 6 Posted March 6 20 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said: There are 6A programs who have said no. That utterly blows my mind unless we're talking about Jeffersonville. But hey, every coach reserves the right to run his program his own way. Quote
Robert Posted March 6 Posted March 6 4 hours ago, 23andCounting said: Good point. I wouldn't categorize it as elite, but having IMG, Roncalli, and East Central certainly get's them close to that status. I guess, being that they are a 4A school playing in a 5A tournament, you could probably call their schedule elite. I wouldn't define it elite by 6A standards. That's reserved for the HCC, MIC, Carroll, and Homestead. But it certainly prepares them for a 5A state title. If Homestead and Carroll play Luers, Concordia, North Side, South Side, Wayne, or Dwenger, it might not be elite. Dwenber and Luers occasionally have conference contenders. Quote
23andCounting Posted March 6 Posted March 6 7 minutes ago, Robert said: If Homestead and Carroll play Luers, Concordia, North Side, South Side, Wayne, or Dwenger, it might not be elite. Dwenber and Luers occasionally have conference contenders. Homestead and Carroll both play MIC and HCC teams in non-conference play, they play each other, then also play Snider and Dwenger. I would call that an elite schedule even if the other four teams were the worst four teams in the state. Quote
Robert Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/6/2026 at 2:34 PM, 23andCounting said: Homestead and Carroll both play MIC and HCC teams in non-conference play, they play each other, then also play Snider and Dwenger. I would call that an elite schedule even if the other four teams were the worst four teams in the state. Okay. We'll have to disagree. 1 Quote
BDGiant93 Posted March 11 Author Posted March 11 Going back through this thread, and my golly my jeez... When Ben Davis played IMG, the stands were almost completely full. It was a huge crowd. BD held its own against the Ascenders. Had a couple of plays gone the other way, it would have been even closer. It was a fantastic atmosphere that was unique to any I've been around in my 40+ years of watching Indiana High School Football. I'm glad New Palestine is bringing that back to the state. Win or lose, they'll be talking about it for a long time in the community. 1 Quote
Indiana Fan Posted March 11 Posted March 11 I attended BD vs IMG that season. Another big one was Center Grove vs St Frances Academy from Baltimore. I was not able to attend that one, but that game usually gets forgotten. St Frances academy has actually beaten IMG as of lately. 1 Quote
WestfieldRocks Posted April 3 Posted April 3 On 3/5/2026 at 4:08 PM, 23andCounting said: I can't imagine any 6A programs saying no. East Central is 4A and they bit. I'm sure there's a handful of 5A teams who'd accept the challenge. I doubt Dwenger, East Noble, or Mishawaka would say "no." I honestly think IMG came calling and New Pal said, "lets do it." I'm sure they would have found someone to fill the spot. Just my perspective from the outside looking in. 6A Westfoe;d played them home and home a few years ago. NP won by 14 points in that first game, but Westfield won by 20 points the following year. 1 Quote
WestfieldRocks Posted April 3 Posted April 3 On 3/10/2026 at 1:29 PM, Robert said: Okay. We'll have to disagree. Homestead had a game at Westfield last season, and Westfield travels up north to play them on week 1 this season. Quote
23andCounting Posted April 4 Posted April 4 20 hours ago, WestfieldRocks said: Homestead had a game at Westfield last season, and Westfield travels up north to play them on week 1 this season. Westfield couldn't ask for a better Week 1 opponent. They're playing a hard nose team that'll punch them back, but also a team Westfield should take out by three touchdowns. A good tune-up game before they get into the meat of their schedule. Homestead has a good football program, but the Rocks are a well oiled machine right now. Quote
Robert Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 4/3/2026 at 11:19 AM, WestfieldRocks said: Homestead had a game at Westfield last season, and Westfield travels up north to play them on week 1 this season. That's a good team. Wayne and Luers and Concordia and North Side and Dwenger aren't going to be anywhere near the elite 6A squads. Quote
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