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Agree. It just boils down to the lack of ability with the current conference schedule. We should have two Region teams (Valpo, the Ville, or CP) each year, a top Fort Wayne school each year and two Indy schools yearly. That leaves 4 games for local rival games. That is a lot of travel, but at this point it is what is needed to be considered competitive. Heck even if Penn could join the DAC it would be an upgrade in competition. Ville, Valpo and CP all on the schedule yearly, NC can have Mishawaka still and go to Fort Wayne and pick up Carroll or Snider. If they aren't available you can swing for the fences and go Center Grove, @Grover is saying they have openings they need to fill. Pipe dreams.

I get it. I just have a personal vendetta against the cowards in Carmel.

Kind of a more severe measure as to what I thought Snider was going thru until this past year when they cut playing 9 SAC games to 7 SAC games and allowing teams to schedule 2 out of conference games. My pipe dream would be that Snider just played Carroll, Homestead, Dwenger, Luers, and North Side in the SAC and play 4 out of conference games against similar skilled opponents.

Just out of curiosity, I checked John Harrell....last season they ranked 24th in 6A and 33rd overall. Not a whole lot of room to drop unfortunaltely. As a Northern Indiana guy I feel Indiana HS football is better when Penn is relavent. If I'm Penn, I'd try and schedule 3-4 of these teams each year Snider, Carroll, Homestead, Crown Point, Carmel, Cathedral, Chicago power, Ohio power, Michigan power.

Right, the schedule through the '04 season is at least below average if not objectively bad by today's standards, but playing Valpo and BD was basically good enough for that time. Under Aldrich, Mishawaka had gone from occasionally tough, to pretty pathetic by the late 90's into the 2000s, so we basically only played Valpo and BD back then. Keeping schools like Cathedral and Carmel on the schedule is the absolute minimum for helping this program be competitive.

Starting a little early this week, as Alabama kicks off the weekend with a great title game tonight in Class 7A. BTW, if you have the Bally Sports package, I believe that they are televising all the Florida title games this weekend starting tomorrow at 11:00am. ALABAMA Class 7A Final (December 6) #34 Alabaster Thompson (11-1) vs #38 Phenix City Central (12-0) Class 6A Final #19 Saraland (13-0) vs #24 Pinson Clay-Chalkville (13-0) Class 5A Final Birmingham Ramsay (12-2) vs Gulf Shores (14-0) Class 4A Final Montgomery Catholic (14-0) vs Centre Cherokee County (13-1) Class 3A Final Mobile Christian (14-0) vs Madison Academy (14-0) Class 2A Final Fyffe (13-1) vs Notasulga Reeltown (13-0) Class 1A Final Leroy (13-0) vs Gadsden Coosa Christian (9-5) CALIFORNIA Open Division Final #2 Santa Ana Mater Dei (12-1) vs #15 San Mateo Serra (12-0) Division 1-AA Final #44 Concord De La Salle (11-2) vs #71 Mission Viejo (12-3) Division 1-A Final #66 Folsom (12-2) vs Ventura St. Bonaventure (12-3) Division 2-AA Final Whittier La Serna (12-3) vs Sacramento Grant (12-2) Division 2-A Final Los Gatos (12-2) vs Visalia Central Valley Christian (14-1) Division 3-AA Final Lafayette Acalandes (10-4) vs Lake Balboa Birmingham (12-2) Division 3-A Final Kentfield Marin Catholic (13-1) vs Lakewood Mayfair (12-3) Division 4-AA Final Fontana Jurupa Hills (9-6) vs Soquel (12-2) Division 4-A Final Salinas Palma (10-4) vs Tulare Mission Oak (10-5) Division 5-AA Final Riverside Ramona (10-5) vs Chico Pleasant Valley (10-3) Division 5-A Final Woodland Christian (14-0) vs Wilmington Banning (9-6) Division 6-AA Final Wasco (9-5) vs Petaluma St. Vincent de Paul (12-2) Division 6-A Final Colusa (13-0) vs National City Sweetwater (8-6) Division 7-AA Final Los Angeles Fairfax (10-4) vs Ferndale (10-4) Division 7-A Final Strathmore (11-4) vs Bell Gardens (10-5) CONNECTICUT Class LL Final Westport Staples (11-1) vs West Haven (9-2) Class L Final New Canaan (11-1) vs Darien (8-3) Class MM Final Wilton (10-2) vs North Haven (10-2) Class M Final Vernon Rockville (11-1) vs Madison Hand (11-1) Class SS Final Watertown (7-5) vs Redding Joel Barlow (8-4) Class S Final Cromwell/Portland (10-2) vs Bloomfield (10-1) FLORIDA Class 4M Final #41 Miami Columbus (12-2) vs Jacksonville Mandarin (11-3) Class 4S Final Lakeland (11-3) vs Venice (12-2) Class 3M Final #9 Fort Lauderdale St. Thomas Aquinas (13-1) vs #96 Homestead (11-1) Class 3S Final St. Augustine (13-0) vs Daytona Beach Mainland (13-1) Class 2M Final Tampa Berkely Prep (12-2) vs #18 Miami Norland (13-0) Class 2S Final #43 Cocoa (13-1) vs Starke Bradford (14-0) Class 1M Final #4 Hollywood Chaminade-Madonna (13-0) vs Clearwater Central Catholic (12-0) Class 1S Final Ocala Trinity Catholic (6-7) vs Sarasota Cardinal Mooney (11-2) Class 1 Rural Hawthorne (12-0) vs Madison County (10-1) GEORGIA Class 7A Final #53 Milton (12-2) vs #12 Marietta Walton (14-0) Class 6A Final College Park Woodward Academy (12-2) vs #94 Thomasville Thomas County Central (14-0) Class 5A Final #98 Fairburn Creekside (13-1) vs Douglas Coffee (14-0) Class 4A Final Perry (12-2) vs Stockbridge (12-2) Class 3A Final Savannah Christian (12-2) vs Ellenwood Cedar Grove (9-5) Class 2A Final Blackshear Pierce County (13-1) vs Rockmart (12-2) Class A- Division I Final Swainsboro (12-2) vs Athens Prince Avenue Christian (13-1) Class A- Division II Final Bowdon (12-2) vs Manchester (11-2) LOUISIANA Division 1NS Final Zachary (12-1) vs #79 Ruston (12-1) Division 1S Final Baton Rouge Catholic (10-3) vs Lafayette Acadiana (11-2) Division 2NS Final Opelousas (11-3) vs Cecilia (12-1) Division 2S Final #60 Lafayette St. Thomas More (13-0) vs Lafayette Christian Academy (10-2) Division 3NS Final Farmerville Union Parish (9-4) vs St. James (11-2) Division 3S Final LaPlace St. Charles Catholic (13-0) vs Shreveport Calvary Baptist (13-0) Division 4NS Final Haynesville (13-1) vs Oak Grove (11-2) Division 4S Final Baton Rouge Southern Lab (11-1) vs Reserve Riverside Academy (12-1) NORTH CAROLINA Class 4A Final #80 Matthews Weddington (13-2) vs Wilmington Hoggard (14-1) Class 3A Final Fayetteville Seventy-First (15-0) vs Hickory (15-0) Class 2A Final Reidsville (14-1) vs Clinton (15-0) Class 1A Final Mount Airy (15-0) vs Tarboro (13-0) PENNSYLVANIA Class 6A Final #7 Philadelphia St. Joseph Prep (12-1) vs #52 Wexford North Allegheny (13-1) Class 5A Final #42 Philadelphia Imhotep Charter (14-0) vs McMurray Peters Township (15-0) Class 4A Final Dallas (15-0) vs Aliquippa (13-0) Class 3A Final Belle Vernon (12-1) vs New Tripoli Northwestern Leigh (15-0) Class 2A Final Pittsburgh Westinghouse (13-0) vs Catawissa Southern Columbia Area (14-1) Class 1A Final McDonald Fort Cherry (15-0) vs Steelton-Highspire (15-0) TEXAS Conference 6A-Division II Semi-Finals #8 DeSoto (13-0) vs #23 Southlake Carroll (13-1) #72 Cibolo Steele (12-1) vs #92 Houston Summer Creek (13-1) Conference 6A-Division I Semi-Finals #5 Galena Park North Shore (13-0) vs #10 Austin Westlake (14-0) #11 Duncanville (12-1) vs Fort Worth Crowley (14-0) Conference 5A-Division II Semi-Finals #67 Dallas South Oak Cliff (12-2) vs McKinney Emerson (12-2) Port Neches-Groves (13-1) vs Liberty Hill (10-4) Conference 5A-Division I Semi-Finals #32 Aledo (14-0) vs Forney (13-1) Spring Branch Smithson Valley (13-1) vs Brownsville Veterans Memorial (12-2) VIRGINIA Class 6 Final #33 Woodbridge Freedom (13-0) vs Highland Springs (13-1) Class 5 Final #51 Norfolk Maury (13-0) vs Ashburn Stone Bridge (8-4) Class 4 Final Salem (13-1) vs Hampton Phoebus (13-0) Class 3 Final Williamsburg Lafayette (12-2) vs Lynchburg Liberty Christian (13-0 Class 2 Final Staunton Riverheads (12-1) vs Radford (14-0) Class 1 Final Galax (10-4) vs Tappahannock Essex (14-0)

Last one…postgame locker room. Army coach Jeff Monken leads team in cheer I Will Fight Some More….

Dikos should send the JV to play these schools then.... Dikos wants a three peat....do what is best for your team, don't worry about hurting feelings. Dikos gets it, Corey does not.

Thanks for the vids. Good stuff.

Army sang second and won the CIC trophy. Go Army Beat Navy! My fav game of the year!!

They started that two years ago because the major city teams were winning all the titles. Don't really think it has helped that much though. I am still puzzled how a team ranked in the top five in the country plays in their smallest class. And we think we have problems.

Beyond time for that monster to stop flaming out out early.

Ben Franklin

10/06/2000 Heritage Hills 90, Pike Central 0 #NeverForget Where's Muda when you need him? LOL

Really doesn't seem like a bad idea for Penn to go independent and CMA take their place. Unfortunately I have no idea why the Penn coaching staff is "into" winning the NIC. 9 times out of 10 they should be able to win it just by rolling out of bed. Not much of an accomplishment for the Kingsmen if you ask me. A conference of: New Prairie, Marian, St. Joe, CMA, Riley, Adams, Washington, Elkhart. Doesn't get me too excited but it is a hell of a lot better than with the Kingsmen there. And on any given year 3 or 4 teams are going into the season thinking they can win it; which makes it way more exciting.