Impartial_Observer

6 hours ago, Wabash82 said:

At 37, Mayor Pete's on the cusp, but I'd wager money that a majority of American males under the age of 30 don't know who Alfred E. Neuman is (or didn't know before this incident.) They may have recognized his image as something they've seen before, but they wouldn't have put known his name. The advent of the digital era too greatly fractured and siloed media markets, and Mad Magazine's "bandwith" has been awfully narrow for a few decades now.  

Indded, as my brother noted to me the other day in speaking about his sons, and their male friends, who are in the mid- to late-20s demographic: "These kids had no idea what it meant when I asked where they stood in the 'Mary Ann versus Ginger' debate!"

If this generation is ignorant of something as seemingly culturally bedrock as a "Gilligan's Island" reference, how can we possibly expect them to know of Alfred E. Neuman? 

In any event, I'm guessing this was not gospel truth for Mayor Pete -- I mean, come on, the dude will read Norwegian novels in Norwegian, he's got to have glanced at a Mad Magazine or two in his time --  but was a "retort" gauged to (again) emphasize to millennials that Trump's a really old guy, and he isn't.  

Poor parenting!

48 minutes ago, Wabash82 said:

Are you suggesting that you NEVER are out past midnight anymore?  You do not EVER go out for an evening with family or friends where you are stay out until the early morning hours? If so, I think you part of a fairly small minority, at least for people below the age of 75.  

There is no indication that these judges make a habit of partying to all hours of the night. All indications are that it was a special occasion for them:  a chance to go out with some friends with whom they were attending the same out of town conference.  

Your comment also implies certain facts that I have not seen reported. The news reports said they'd gone to some bars prior to the incident, but I don't recall seeing any news reports indicating that either of the judges was believed to be intoxicated.

Maybe I am the prude here, but I typically drink in moderation when I am out on the town ("bar hopping"), here in Indy or anywhere else I may be. Having a good time doesn't equate (to me) to drinking to the level of being intoxicated. Likewise, staying out late with friends doesn't equate (to me) to being out looking for trouble; it usually equates to having an enjoyable time with enjoyable company, such that no one's in hurry to see the night end. 

And as for the "fighting": if some guy physically assaulted me on the street, I would seem reasonable for me to try to defend myself. I don't think it would strike me as completely accurate to accuse me of "fighting" in public in that situation; more like, protecting myself in public from a criminal. 

The only part of this that makes me cringe is that they were apparently trying to get into the Red Garter prior to this incident. I'm not a fan of married men -- really any men, but especially married men -- going to strip clubs (or going without their wives, if they're into that sort of thing 😉). But I don't reasonably expect everyone to follow my position on that, especially since strip bars are legal establishments. 

I have to agree with TD here, I believe this does bring their judgement into question, there are way nicer places.

I'm not going to lie here fellas, strip clubs just don't hold the appeal to me that they did when I was a few years younger. That being said showing up at a strip club with a couple of lesbians and buying one of them a lap dance......well that's a game changer.

1 hour ago, swordfish said:

SF's post in memes on April 15.  Found it very funny when the Mayor said he had to google it.  "It's a generational thing"......

Perhaps it is a generational thing, but I find it odd an American male doesn't know who Alfred E. Neuman is. 

4 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Sorry that I am not a party animal and am an introvert by nature.  Are you a party animal Wabash?

 

 

I have no idea, but if I were a betting man, I'd bet he's just a normal dude. Perhaps you're the anomaly here Muda?

Personally I've been to professional training events, and have managed to not only learn a little, but have a little fun while there. I just don't see the issue.  

3 minutes ago, Coach_K said:

I am not sure how I feel about school personnel carrying because of the following questions:

Does a teacher carrying make the school safer?

Where do the majority of school shooting take place? (Classroom, common areas, hallways, etc.)  When do these occurrences happen? (Is there a pattern?)

Does the teacher with a gun pursue the school shooter? What happens if he/she breaks school protocol?

What happens if another student gets shot by the teacher? Liability issues?

What happens if the students find out a teacher is carrying?

Key word in my post trained.

All good questions. My main point, if I am trained and have an Indiana LTCH, why can't I defend myself with a firearm in a school or similar soft target?

Peggy Lipton.......I know there are some on here who remember The Mod Squad, I had a major crush on her as a yute.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/12/us/peggy-lipton-dies-of-cancer/index.html

1 hour ago, Irishman said:

I agree 100%...and arming teachers is NOT a solution either.

Are you against trained LTCH teachers being armed in school? 

School personnel can already have firearms on school property with authorization from the school board. 

22 hours ago, btownqbcoach said:

40% of the state has turf. I have accounted for all but 6 schools in the state of Indiana (Attucks, Fremont, Prairie Heights, Eastside, Tindley, and Shortridge). 11 schools don't have their own field, so they were thrown out of the equation all together. (Ev Memorial, Cathedral, Ev Mater Dei, Covenant Christian, SB Wash, FW Snider, Chatard, Ritter, Luers, Boone Grove, Scecina)

97% of 6A turf

72% of 5A turf

58% of 4A turf

28% of 3A turf

21% of 2A turf

8% of 1A turf

122/302 schools overall. 

 

1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8
Crown Point	Chesterton	Carroll	Carmel	Avon	BD	LC	Center Grove	32	Total
Lake Central	Penn	Homestead	Westfield	Brownsburg	Tech	WC	CN	31	Turf
Merrillville	Portage	Noblesville	HSE	Pike	Perry Meridian	LN	CE	1	Not Turf
Laf Jeff	Valpo	Warsaw	Fishers	Zionsville	Southport	North Central	Franklin Cent
9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16
LaPorte	Concord	FW BD	Anderson	Decatur Cent	Franklin	Bloom South	BNL	33
Michigan City	Elk Central	FW Snider	Laf Harrison	Plainfield	New Pal	Bloom North	FC	23
Mishawaka	Elk Memorial	FW Northrop	Kokomo	TH North	Seymour	Castle	NA	9
Munster	Goshen	FW NS	McCutheon	TH South	Whiteland	Ev North	Jeff	1	No home field
SB Adams
17	18	19	20	21	22	23	24
East Chicago	Culver	Angola	Delta	Connersville	Beech Grove	East Central	Boonville	63
Gary WS	Kankakee Valley	Columbia City	FW SS	Greenfield Central	Frankfort	Greenwood	Jasper	34
Griffith	Logansport	DeKalb	FW Wayne	Mt. Vernon Fortville	Cathedral	JC	Eville Central	25
Hammond Gavit	New Prairie	East Noble	Huntington North	Muncie Central	Attucks	Madison	Eville Memorial	2	Haven't heard from
Hammond Morton	Plymouth	Leo	Jay County	New Castle	Shortridge	SC	Eville Reitz	2
Highland	SB Clay	Northridge	Marion	Pendleton Heights	Lebanon	Mooresville	Eville Harrison
Hobart	SB Riley	NorthWood	Mississinewa	Richmond	Roncalli	Martinsville	Northview
Lowell	SB St Joe	Wawasee	New Haven	Shelbyville	Western	SD
Total
88	Turf
34	Don't have turf
6	Haven't confirmed
11	Don't have own field

 

 

25		26		27		28
Hammond		Lakeland		FW Concordia		Guerin		64
Hammond Clarke		John Glenn		Belmont		Brebeuf		17
Hanover Central		West Noble		Oak Hill		Crawfordsville		44
River Forest		Mis Marion		Peru		Chatard
Knox		Garrett		Northwestern		North Montgomery		3
Calumet		SB Wash		Maconquah		West Laf
Benton Central		Jimtown		Norwell		Hamilton Heights
Twin Lakes		Tipp Valley		Heritage		Yorktown
29		30		31		32
West Vigo		Washington		Brownstown		Ev Bosse
Ritter		Princeton		Scottsburg		Gibson So
Greencastle		Sullivan		Charlestown		Mt. Vernon
Danville		Pike Central		Lawrenceburg		Heritage Hills
Tri West		Vinncennes		Franklin Co		Salem
Manual		Owen Valley		Batesville		Cordyon
Indpls Wash		Brown Co		Greensburg		North Harrison
Indian Creek		Edgewood		Rushville		Southridge
33		34		35		36
Andrean		Bremen		Bluffton		Alexandria		64
Boone Grove		Delphi		Central Noble		Blackford		12
Bowman		LaVille		Eastside		Eastbrook		46
Hammon Bishop Noll		Lewis Cass		Fairfield		Eastern (Greentown)		2
North Newton		Manchester		Luers		Elwood		4
Ren Central		Pioneer		Whitko		Frankton
Wheeler		Rochester		Woodlan		Lapel
Whiting		Wabash		Prairie Heights		Tipton
37		38		39		40
Cascade		Centerville		Clarksville		Forest Park
Monrovia		Eastern Hancock		Pekin		North Posey
North Putnam		Heritage Christian		Providence		Eville Mater Dei
Seegar		Howe		Paoli		Crawford Co
South Vermillion		Scecina		Mitchell		Linton
Southmont		Northeastern		Switzerland Co		North Knox
Speedway		Shenandoah		Triton Central		Tell City
Western Boone		Winchester		Union Co		South Spencer
41		42		43		44		64
Culver Community		Carroll (Flora)		Madison-Grant		Adams Central		64
Gary Roosevelt		Clinton Central		Monroe Central		Caston		5
Lake Station Edison		Clinton Prairie		South Adams		Fremont		56
North Judson		Frontier		Southern Wells		North Miami		2
West Central		LCC		Taylor		Northfield		1
Winamac		North White		Tri-Central		Southwood
South Newton		Traders Point Academy		Union City		Triton
South Central (Union Mills)		Tri-County		Wes Del		Churubusco
45		46		47		48
Attica		Anderon Prep		Cambridge City		Eastern Greene
Cloverdale		Covenant Christian		Hagerstown		North Central (Farmersburg)
Covington		Edinburgh		Knighstown		North Daviess
Fountain Central		School of Deaf		Milan		Perry Central
North Vermillion		Lutheran		North Decatur		West Washington
Parke Heritage		Park Tudor		South Decatur		Rock Creek
Riverton Parke		Sheridan		Tri		Springs Valley
South Putnam		Tindley		Oldenburg		Tecumseh

Ritter uses Marian University as it's home field, it is turf. I believe they have a long term deal and barring MU making the jump to D1, I don't see them playing on a Friday night any time soon. 

35 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Under exactly what kind of circumstances?   And this is a serious question.   I'll admit I am not a 100% prude when it comes to profanity, and I have let the occasional 4-letter word slip out on occasion.  It almost always has had to with being angry, and I regretted uttering the world the moment it came out.   

I just looked at this entire thread a couple of things come to mind:

1) Let he among us who hasn't wondered into a White Castle at 3:00 in the morning after a night of bar hopping cast the first stone.

2) Muda, I bet you are fun to hang out with at IT conventions.

3) When you make it to the big city if you're looking for a good time, I'd call @Lysander he has intel of all the best dive bars. 

18 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Because sometimes the F-bomb is  what's needed!

WTF man?

"I work in profanity the way others might work in oil or...clay"

1 hour ago, BARRYOSAMA said:

It's Crazy Bernie and Creepy Joe.  

I beg to differ:

https://www.amazon.com/Biden-Time-Crazy-Uncle-Words-ebook/dp/B01ELPKS1U/ref=dp_kinw_strp_1

I give you crazy Uncle Joe's new political strategist:

16 hours ago, Wabash82 said:

The hospital's charges have little to no connection to their cost for the services, so those figures honestly don't tell us whether the hospital is still making a profit at that level of payment. The "window sticker" charges at hospitals are almost never paid by anyone: private insurance companies aren't paying anything close to those charges, and most poor uninsured people don't pay full boat because the hospitals just write off the charges.

Because of the way our health care system works, the hospital's charge list exist mainly just to (a) be the place to start the negotiations with insurers (public and private) over discounts and actual reimbursement rates, and (b) get over in those rare cases where a wealthy person is willing and able to pay out of pocket.  

I have a pretty good understanding of medical billing works. This was for a surgical procedure (amputation) which took about 2 hours. Granted the surgeon's bill was not included in this. My main point being, he was in pre-op for about two hours, with staff, associated pre-op care, IV, blood work, central line, etc., used an OR for two hours and associated staff, equipment, supplies, meds, pathology, etc., then in post op for about an hour and a half, w/staff. And the hospital was paid about 3K. I don't think their costs were covered. Granted this hospital is non-profit, at least the hospital itself. There is another entity that owns all the real estate that is for profit. 

My family doctor hasn't taken new Medicare/Medicaid patients in years, there must be a reason. I had a local retired dentist tell me that Medicaid (note Medicaid, not Medicare, I'm not using the two interchangeably) would pay a taxi service more to bring a patient to his office, than they would pay him to do routine dental procedures, extractions, fillings, etc.

I believe there is a potentially a looming healthcare crisis in this country, everyone laughed at Trump when he stated he agreed with VOC, the VA is fine. If you want a glimpse of what a government run healthcare system looks like, I'd say that's a pretty good example, only a fraction of the scale.

What is the ideal temperature of the Earth?

What is the ideal level of the oceans of the Earth?

What is the ideal CO2 level of the Earth?

I just saw a Medicare bill from the local hospital. Charges were over 23K, Medicare deducted over 20K and paid about $2500. Leaving the patient with $528.00 out of pocket. 

I'm not sure how this business model survives. 

I think Biden has a shot at against Trump. I can easily see him playing the Jeb Bush part in this primary. Bush had a machine behind him, but I don't think he had the "want" to do it. 

I just don't think Mayor Pete has the national following, but in 1991 who'd ever heard of Bill Clinton? And going from a governor's mansion to the WH is one thing, but going from the mayor of a medium sized city in Indiana to the WH is a HUGE jump. I'm not sure any of the rest of them are serious candidates. 

I'll be honest, I wish this process were a little more compacted. This cycle literally started the day after the mid-terms. It grows tiresome, and I'm sure I'm not in the minority there. I think it will fun to watch, I just wish we didn't have to watch it for so long. 

In my opinion, Biden's heart isn't in this. He's 76 years old, he's been out of the game for a couple of years, he's a two time loser, he just doesn't strike me as a man who's invested in this. 

I think Bernie will be the guy. 

1 hour ago, Wabash82 said:

At the risk of stating the obvious, the cost/benefit analysis of handing out drinking straw, versus handing out clean syringes, is a bit different (unless we are equating human lives and tortoise lives). 

Sure until it’s your kid or grandkid that gets stuck.

I don’t use straws anyway. I don’t care what you choose to put in your body. I don’t care if it’s needles or your Slurpee cup, dispose of your trash properly. 

Heard a story on the radio the other day about San Francisco giving an obscene amount of free syringes to addicts. I'm not for sure, but I would guess a place like San Francisco would be one of the early adopters of banning plastic straws. It begs the question, they ban straws, yet give away free syringes. I understand straws "can" harm wildlife, but I mean even in tiny Seymour, syringes are literally found lying around everywhere. I don't recall every hearing a story where someone was inadvertently poked with an HIV/AIDS tainted straw. I am only left to scratch my head.  

Quick Google search yielded this result, not necessarily the story I was referring to:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Those-needles-littering-the-streets-The-city-12898656.php

19 hours ago, Muda69 said:

It's all my money, isn't it?

Depends, assuming you work for an employer, half of it is their's. 

I'm pretty sure I saw that Mastadon roaming around over at Dinger Schepman's farm one night after sitting at the bar a little too long. 

FYI, this is the farm right across the street from El Nopal. 

3 hours ago, swordfish said:

Who can forget this display of brilliance from Ms. Waters......

"What are you guys doing to help us with this student loan debt?"  Who would like to answer first?"  "Mr. Moynihan - Big Bank?"

 

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The U.S. House Financial Services Committee also has jurisdiction over the country's monetary policy (i.e., oversight of the Federal Reserve Board), international finance (i.e., the foreign exchange markets), international monetary organizations (i.e., the IMF and World Bank) and laws regarding terrorist financing.

The committee also oversees reserve banks, the U.S. Treasury and the production of currency, as well as the Federal Depository Insurance Corporation (FDIC), the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), the NCUA, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, HUD, the Federal Housing Finance Agency and the Export-Import Bank

 

And Maxine Waters is the chair of the committee. This is why we can't have nice things.