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5 hours ago, Bobref said:
I have searched in vain for anything resembling guidance on this subject in the National Federation officiating publications. We have guidelines for the chain crew and the clock operators, but nothing for the public address system. So, we fall back on the “God Rule,” Rule 1-1-6, which gives the Referee the absolute discretion to rule on anything not specifically covered by the rules.
There are a few things the Referee will consider in deciding how to handle this. First and foremost is the question “are both teams being treated the same?” If the answer is that the PA guy is only doing this when the visitors are on offense, I’m going to put a stop to it immediately. And by “immediately,” I mean as soon as I notice it. 😉 If both teams are being treated equally, on the other hand, I’ll let it go (hoping to hear something entertaining) until somebody complains. Then I’ll shut it down. In either case, I’ll make a report to the IHSAA. They want to know when PA announcers go beyond basic information, and start with play by play or critical commentary.
The more common “no huddle” offenses do present a potential issue here. The noise should cease when the offense breaks the huddle, since that’s when signal calling can start. If the offense doesn’t huddle, it’s got to stop when the offense starts lining up in formation.
As to how you go about it, sometimes you have a direct radio connection to the clock operator, and you relay the message to “knock it off” that way. Other times you relay the message through the head coach on the sideline, who gets it to the coaches in the booth, who pass it along. If the guy persists, you stop the game and locate the representative of game management (often the AD), and that will definitely take care of it. Especially when you mention that the next step is to start assessing 15 yd. penalties against the home team.
Bob the year I had the MS issue, it was a POE. The dude was doing play by play while the ball was in play, including “no flag on the late hit out of bounds”.
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It needs to be addressed long before the late 4th QTR FG attempt.
I’ve had to deal with this a few of times over the years. Usually a talk with the HC takes care of things. In a MS game one time I went so far as a trip to the press box at halftime. Followed by USC flags on the home team for every occurrence after.
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Funny story about radio guys, last year I ended up with a fractured foot in our first game. I sat in the press box the second half. I kept my radio so I could help if they needed for penalty enforcement. The radio guys were sitting to my right and I had my ear piece in my left ear. So any call that happened I would give them the info. I don’t think they ever realized I had an ear piece in and was listening to the crew. I wasn’t even watching the game, I was watching our mechanics. They thought I was the Amazing Carnac when ever there was a flag, I instantly knew what it was. As the game wound down they asked me if I could come with them every week.
The home town radio guys are homers, it’s high school sports, it is what it is, I’m just thankful they’re out there supporting our sport.
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1 hour ago, sr1 said:
They did not do bad for student broadcasters. I have endured adults doing much worst. Have you listened to the guys doing the Boonville games? I think every flag thrown against the Boonville offense is a "late flag". I did think it was funny when the Jasper play by play guy pointed out that the Mater Dei QB has to run over to the sideline for every play. He then pointed out that the Jasper QB does not do that because he is smart enough to figure out what to do on his own and just calls his own plays.
As someone who throws flags, in many situations I prefer a late flag to an early one. Best advice most young officials need is SLOW DOWN, give your brain a second to understand what your eyes saw.
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2 hours ago, starbacker said:
Anyone know the officiating crew at BNL tonight. Hopefully no one connected here.
They are having a HORRIFIC night. BOTH WAYS!
AWFUL
IO and crew were at Jasper tonight. Need to see the film, but I thought we were pretty solid. Saw on Twitter two names and I don’t know either of them.
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7 hours ago, TheStatGuy said:
My vote didn't go to waste in 2008 nor did it in 2012 and it didn't in 2016. I voted for the best candidate and someone who has beliefs similar to mine.
If Joe Biden had cheated on all his wives, paid off pornstars, had multiple people from his campaign get arrested, a notable racist and xenophobe. I might have considered voting 3rd party... since biden isn't any of those. He'll be getting my vote.
So it’s turd sandwich for you.
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On 9/15/2020 at 8:06 PM, Bobref said:
I don’t get that. The only difference from a regular week is a few hours on a bus. Sort of a dress rehearsal for one of those long semistate trips. It’s not like they have to walk to Merrillville. Pretty sure they’d be up to the challenge.
The longest potential SS trip CN would have would be the 50ish mike trip to Avon. And no before anyone thinks this is some kind of crystal ball thing, just looking at possible 6A South matchups.
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8 minutes ago, boilerfan87 said:
Crawford has shutdown for several weeks due to COVID. It is the whole corporation, not just the team. I think that CC was supposed to play SV that week.
I would guess Jeff is still trying, but with no AD currently in the fold there, who knows what is getting done. The majority of week 6 open dates are probably too far north for it to be worth it for Jeff. The closest would be Greensburg. I could see that being an interesting one. New Albany went just a bit further north for their matchup with Eastern Hancock.
Jeff and Greensburg were once in the same conference. Jeff left the SCC for the HHC in 81. Greensburg left a few years earlier.
I think it would be an interesting game. I realize another time but Jeff used to make the trip to both Rushville and Connersville as well. I used to hate the trip to Connersville on a bus. It was going to be a late night. -
47 minutes ago, Frozen Tundra said:
Jennings County and Seymour both use Wisconsin’s fight song. Kind of weird when they’re rivals.
Columbus East uses USC’s fight song. I don’t remember what Jeff, New Albany, Madison and BNL use. I’m curious to know.
On Wisconsin is a pretty popular fight song, I hear several times a year. Edgewood uses Hail to the Victors, at least that’s what the band was playing Friday.
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6 hours ago, Frozen Tundra said:
I believe Seymour used Temple’s old owl logo for awhile (before Temple moved to their current T logo). I don’t understand why Temple would be ok with it but not Rice.
This logo was on some stationary the athletic department used.
It wasn’t a big deal, all HC’s got an email not to use it, I don’t believe anyone was using it at the time. I had my son design a logo for the softball program. What can I say I don’t think anyone at Seymour understands branding.
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Why is it that every four years Americans lose their shit choosing between a giant douche and a turd sandwich?
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1 hour ago, Frozen Tundra said:
Sure seems that way but it wouldn’t be the first time a college or pro logo was “ripped off” by a high school team
When I was coaching Seymour’s athletic department had some stationary that used Rice’s logo and they received a cease and desist order.
Warren Central has used the same W as Wisconsin as have several others.-
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15 hours ago, TheStatGuy said:
Lol, hell wreck trump in a debate.
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13 hours ago, Alduflux said:
I vote every election. I'm the guy the guys at work talk politics with. I legitimately did not know who the Democrats were running for governor until I read his name in the op. Strange year indeed.
Ditto, and I would assume the majority of his 30 points didn’t either, they’re just pulling the D lever. The 6 point lead Holcomb has I would guess is insurmountable.
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Silver Dollar at dusk anyone?
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A couple of interesting points from the Indy Politics poll, which this article is citing. Virtually all of Rainwater’s numbers are coming at Holcomb’s expense. Another caveat that I found very telling, 16% of Holcomb’s supporters plan to vote for Biden for president.
I have felt all along Holcomb had no chance of losing this election, however in this freakish year, I now think he has a very real chance of losing. In my opinion, conservatives in this state are fed up with RINOs, which Holcomb certainly is. Holcomb is on the wrong side of some several issues, that alone don’t amount to much, but combined may put a second term in jeopardy.
I am on the Rainwater bandwagon.I’m on the anybody but Eric Holcomb bandwagon.-
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5 hours ago, raiderx2 said:
Irishman, Irish whiskey with root beer? Blasphemous. BC is giving you the stink eye from above. 😁 Hope all is well with you.
Neat for me, but ain’t mad about leaving the bottle on top of the cooler.
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1 hour ago, Irishman said:
I did it for the primary this year.
I had no idea.......I wasn’t lying when I said I wasn’t paying attention. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen virtually every vid on YouTube, yard looks great, daughter’s yard looks great, and we’ve been having a fire just about every night, so I’ve been consuming copious amounts of Makers.
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I know the gentleman from New York would never mislead us.
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2 hours ago, Irishman said:
Interesting to note that I have had several ads from the Indiana GOP about applying ASAP for a mail in ballot on my Facebook page.
I understand Indiana has absentee voting, but do we even have mail in voting?
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11 minutes ago, Fkfootball said:
It’s definitely not a shot at them.
“But this doesn’t seem like a team that is well coached. ”
“but you would think Madison could find acoach that can teach fundamentals.”
“You would think they could find a good 1-A coach or something that would come there.”
I’m no English major but I’d say those are shots at them. Coach Wilson was a coordinator at an HHC school prior to being name HC at Madison. He’s a young coach, never been a HC, he’s growing as a coach and learning on the fly at being a HC. Madison has socio-economic issues that other schools in the HHC don’t have. Regardless of your shots, I have seen some good things from Coach Wilson. That may not necessarily translate to wins at this point, but wins are not necessarily the sole measuring stick of HS coaches.
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1 hour ago, DT said:
This a very interesting post, and clearly demonstrates the animosity, ambivalence and general ingnorance central Indiana , and particularly Indianoplace folks have about The Region and Northwest Indiana.
I vote we secede and just officially be who we are, a south suburb of Chicago. We dont need the hillbilly mentality and false hubris that comes out of Indy.
NWI has been forever the industrial, technological and cultural leader of this backward state
The ignorance and lack of sophistication ooze out of Lysander's post.
And he called their mommas fat...and ugly, culture withstanding of course.
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EIAC Week #6
in The Indiana High School Football Forum
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IO is just disappointed the pretend grass project didn't get started a little sooner. Would loved to have had the inaugural game.