Titan32

Actually life does work this way. In my profession I was able to rise above my peers through hard work....but we all started on an equal playing field. Enrollment alone does not do that...I'm shocked you don't see that.

Did Memorial work harder to gain this advantage...or is it just a function of being able to buy the ability to get Johny on a team with the other quality success driven Soccer players?

Close...but at the end of the day there are more quality humans per capita at the private. How could anyone argue otherwise? How many kids are at Memorial are there just to take up space in comparison to an equally sized (per enrollment) public? I think the argument can easily be made that Castle and Memorial have a vary similar number of quality student athletes walking the halls.

Another valuable life lesson might be to always be honest with oneself. With all due respect your position on this is a convenient mix of chest thumping and sticking your head in the sand. There are certain criteria that programs which win a lot of games have in common. These aren't necessarily mine but they are the ones typically mentioned here on the GID and they are in no particular order: quality feeder program, quality strength and agility systems, quality staff, community support and admin support. I don't recall the consensus here on GID including coaching salaries or fancy facilities. Those might be nice to have but hopefully we can all agree they aren't necessary to win more games than you lose. The football guy in me almost falls for the "try harder" argument every time I see it on here, every year, over and over and over, but at the end of the day it's just machismo and conjecture. Let's face it, about the only thing in common with the P/P model and public model as a means of education is that they both have books and teenagers in the building. One is a free legal requirement, the other offers a commodity. In fact, it is a crime in Indiana to not educate your child between the ages of 7 and 16. Every public school, no matter how "affluent" their geographic based demographic is, have a percentage "X" of the student population that is only there because they have to be and another group, only marginally more motivated than the "have to be there group", that just kind of does what is required to get by. All of my public school teacher friends reading this know exactly what I am talking about. In stark contrast, when what you offer is a commodity, the ability to purchase a seat next to a like minded academically motivated quality student athlete, as a parent you expect/demand results for that purchase. It's a free market service in which one can purchase the taylored academic/athletic experience of your choice. Some families make huge sacrifices to purchase this service, they do so because the value is tremendous (academically and athletically) and has the likelihood of producing life long results. Let's just say hypothetically that we have two secondary "schools", one public and one private both participating in the sport of football, both with all of the above qualities that the GID has determined to be necessary in order be successful ...AND...we will even kick in your coaches salaries and facilities....all equal. Heck, we can even say the public is in a "good neighborhood" (meaning low free and assisted lunch kids etc.). In addition, both schools have the exact same enrollment. Now, you have to bet $10,000 on which team will win more games over a decade. Where do you put your chips?? Everyone reading this knows which team will win more games given an equal schedule. It will play out that the public school will have ONE once in a decade team in which its random human capital will exceed the predicable human capital of the private school. Said another way, I would pick the private school to win more games 9 of the 10 years, they will always have a higher number of quality athletes per capita. To be clear I am not arguing for multiplier 2.0 or that success factor is perfect. I am arguing that enrollment alone was really really broken. It is simply not true that all things being equal privates are on the same playing field as publics. It's simply not true that enrollment alone is an equitable way to "rate" these two vastly different educational models against each other for athletic competition.

SF has flaws and I didn't mention it in my post. Let's go back to a world without it....in that world do you honestly believe enrollment alone is an equitable way to rank pay vs non-pay institutions for competitive classification in Indiana High School athletics? (yes or no)

Once again, a post that questions the "toughness" of anyone who would bring into question the inequities/rules that line P/Ps trophy cases. You seem pretty thoughtful in your posts and reasonably intelligent although this one is more tongue in cheek. I am just a country boy (not even a caveman lawyer), so let me see if I understand correctly. Are you saying that enrollment alone is an equitable way to rank pay vs non-pay institutions for competitive classification in Indiana High School athletics?

Well done SR!

Good luck to all the SIAC schools still in the hunt tonight!

Don't pull me into this LOL! I can say both teams were battle tested from the PAC. Southridge in the shotgun wing T is hard to prepare for because even if you can run the plays on scout, game speed is a whole different animal. Coach B. will add a little bit to the play book each week as well. Should be a fun game.

We had a local bar actually advertise to come watch the game on one of these links....I set them straight. If a bad guy does this nation wide....seems like a lucrative business model.

Beware of fake links to various indiana games on youtube...they are designed to steal your credit card number.

Sullivan is a solid program.....best of luck to the Golden Arrows!

I saw someone on facebook from GS post they have a couple spare tickets...pm me for his phone number if interested.

I'll save you a seat up top!

It's funny....I catch wind of those same exact rumors!

Poor Titans....no chance it seems in 32.

I don't think there will be any video of the game online.

Now it looks like they are sending us an allotment of tickets. I do not know if any will be sold at the gate.

I think that is an IHSAA decision in the tournament. Hopefully we hear something soon.

We received an email that tickets would be sold at the gate...which honestly I thought was a little odd last time given the current state of affairs. Most schools just Fedex an allotment to us.

I agree.