Titan32

Consistent message from HH this year: https://www.tristatehomepage.com/sports/local-sports/home-team-friday-preview-heritage-hills-2/

https://www.courierpress.com/story/sports/high-school/2022/08/15/indiana-high-school-football-courier-press-ihsaa-preseason-rankings/65397284007/

2022 Indiana Football Coaches Association Coaches Poll (Pre-Season) 6A 1 Center Grove (6) 92 2 Indpls Cathedral (2) 82 3 Carmel 76 4 Brownsburg (1) 59 5 Warren Central (1) 54 6 Westfield 50 7 Ben Davis 41 8 Hamilton Southeastern 35 9 Lawrence North 15 10 Avon 10 Others receiving votes: Lawrence Central (8), Carroll (Allen) (7), Penn (7), Fishers (4), Warsaw (2), Zionsville (2), Elkhart (1), Lafayette Jeff (1) 5A 1 Merrillville (8) 97 2 Decatur Central (1) 78 3 FW Snider 75 4 Michigan City 53 5 Whiteland 48 6 FW Dwenger (1) 46 7 Valparaiso 44 8 Mishawaka 22 9 Concord 21 Harrison (WL) 21 Others receiving votes: Castle (15), Bloomington South (12), Bloomington North (6), Chesterton (5), Columbus East (4), TH North (1) 4A 1 Mt. Vernon (Fortville) (5) 84 2 New Palestine (1) 68 3 Indpls Roncalli (2) 66 4 Mooresville (1) 53 5 Indpls Brebeuf 43 6 Evansville Memorial 40 7 East Central 34 8 Hobart 27 9 Kokomo 25 10 Northwood 19 Others receiving votes: Jasper (15), East Noble (13), Greenfield Central (10), Martinsville (1) (10), Northridge (9), Silver Creek (9), New Prairie (8), Lowell (7), Evansville Central (5), Leo (3), Logansport (3), Mississinewa (3) 2022 Indiana Football Coaches Association Coaches Poll (Pre-Season) 3A 1 Indpls Chatard (8) 97 2 West Lafayette 81 3 Gibson Southern (2) 74 4 Tri-West 64 5 Mishawaka Marian 62 6 Lawrenceburg 48 7 Danville 44 8 Western Boone 16 9 Guerin Catholic 10 Norwell 10 Others receiving votes: Heritage Hills (9), Oak Hill (7), Delta (6), Hanover Central (6), FW Concordia (4), Charlestown (3), Mt. Vernon (Posey) (3), Southridge (1), Speedway (1) 2A 1 Andrean (8) 84 2 Evansville Mater Dei (2) 80 3 Eastbrook 60 FW Luers 60 5 Lafayette CC 41 6 Linton-Stockton 38 7 Indpls Scecina 36 8 Eastside 32 9 Triton Central 31 10 Heritage Christian 25 Others receiving votes: LaVille (23), Brownstown Central (10), Eastern (Greentown) (9), Tipton (7), Indpls Ritter (6), Alexandria (5), Lapel (2), Lewis Cass (2), Sullivan (2), Paoli (1), Seeger (1) 1A 1 Indpls Lutheran (10) 100 2 Adams Central 90 3 South Adams 59 4 Covenant Christian 57 5 Monroe Central 47 6 North Judson 45 7 Park Tudor 27 8 North Decatur 26 9 South Putnam 24 10 Tri 21 Others receiving votes: Sheridan (13), Springs Valley (11), North Daviess (10), Pioneer (9), Carroll (Flora) (8),Parke Heritage (8), Southwood (7), North Vermillion (5), Triton (5), Providence (1)

Gibson Southern: https://www.wevv.com/sports/44blitz-preview-gibson-southern-titans/article_a7ab5f08-1bf4-11ed-872b-d39f17cb9590.html

Gibson Southern Central https://www.courierpress.com/videos/sports/high-school/2022/08/13/highlights-central-vs-gibson-southern-football-scrimmage/10314802002/ Boonville North https://www.courierpress.com/videos/sports/high-school/2022/08/13/highlights-north-vs-boonville-football-scrimmage/10314774002/

Tecumseh: https://www.wevv.com/sports/44blitz-preview-tecumseh-braves/article_18b01ed4-1789-11ed-9954-d7142617f512.html

Boonville: https://www.wevv.com/sports/44blitz-preview-boonville-pioneers/article_fb260b88-1857-11ed-a8b5-1b15d636b7bb.html

No crime in that. Commenting on every region in the state as if you’re the top authority, when it fact it’s coming strait from your @$$ is something completely different.

No…like lack of success factor. I’m going to need you to pay attention.

That was poor wording by me...over a period "X" might be better.

This is smart. I like the idea of the multiplier...and removing it if the school never has any success in a given sport.

These things are such a joke. It’s almost better to watch a practice.

Facebook is for P#$$ies

Cody P. could do worse.

I think 15 is actually Reitz Memorial

Tell City https://www.courierpress.com/story/sports/high-school/2022/08/09/ihsaa-football-tell-city-hopes-trending-upward-new-coach/65389879007/

Speedway defeated GS in the Big State Championship.

Here come the talk of all the things many of them do well related to football....tradition, youth league, feeder, admin...bla bla bla. Many publics have those same things...it's about a 3A private having about the same number of quality success driven student athletes as a 4A or 5A public. Agree with you that it equates to more wins when the number of Jimmy's and Joes is stacked in your favor.

It's been stated on this thread many times. Crimsonace stated it well like this " Participation numbers are greater at p/ps than public schools and that's largely due to the fact that because your pool of students is people who are willing to pay tuition, they've already self-screened and are from the population of students/families that is *much* more likely to be involved in extracurricular activities (whether sports, band, choir, theater, clubs ...). The kids who just show up, go to class and then go home at the end of the day aren't as likely to have families who seek out a private-school alternative. " Even the highest quality publics aren't going to have as many quality success driven kids to choose from. It's a major factor. Privates shouldn't be rewarded for having less dead weight. For that reason enrollment alone doesn't work....never has, never will. SF has helped some and is certainly better than nothing.

No...but it changes effective enrollment. I don't have the answer...but enrollment is absolutely horrible at determining similar institutions. The square footage of the building might as well be used.

I support a multiplier to account for the difference in enrollment type. People at the IHSAA get paid to do the math. For the record SF has helped some and it keeps the IHSAA out of potential litigation. Most of us agree that it also needs tweeks.

Heritage Hills https://www.courierpress.com/story/sports/high-school/2022/08/08/ihsaa-football-heritage-hills-optimistic-about-depth-experience/65387096007/?fbclid=IwAR0Pb9WkzDcnJrYQY_gZcsyONwz6MtWwwI5rJeJcGRkhC0BNnT7Y_SELQ8U

Agree....and neither are all publics. Any of us can have the pieces to be successful if we choose to put in the work. The question is what's the starting point for classification regardless of those things. One thing is for certain, enrollment alone doesn't work.

I think when you ask this question, we will get into the stuff we all know and understand that can occur at both Privates and Publics that do football well. Tradition (meaning some measurable stretch of success that makes footballs sexy), quality youth and feeder teams/leagues, adequate facilities for weights, S&A and practice, supportive admin and community. And then guys will jump in and talk about the CYO in Indy....who gets what kids...yada yada yada. Those are all things any school can have that wants to do the work. What public's can't have is more quality kids per capita....less "dead weight". Our private friends want us to ignore what they know their tuition dollars get them and the biggest most statistically significant thing it gets them is into a club with a larger pool of like minded peers. It's a great thing that I too would have paid for if I didn't have other options.