Bash Riprock
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20 hours ago, temptation said:
To be fair the games are discussed in the other thread…this thread is simply the assassination of Michigan’s accomplishments from folks with an axe to grind.
For the record, this thread is 19 pages long and @Bash Riprock declared himself “done going down this rabbit hole” on page 10.
Thats telling.
What is telling about me and an obvious personal flaw on my part is inability to ignore your continuous ignorant posts....such as the one above.
But remember, you can also put out the fire by keeping your fat mouth shut. Works both ways.
I have been clear...I am not fond of coaches and programs that cheat, nor institutions that defend and/or cover them up. I am also not fond of people such as yourself that justify those actions and play the victim card. I deem that pathetic.
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3 hours ago, Bobref said:
Amazing. In all the heat and light this play generated, I have not seen one player, Coach, talking head, journalist, etc., mention this critical factor in analyzing what went wrong. It’s much easier when you just put the blinders on so that you examine the play only superficially, rather than really digging in and gathering the necessary facts. Much easier to just pile on the officials.
Sometimes the hardest thing to know … is what you don’t know. Wouldn’t you agree @Footballking16 and @Bash Riprock?
It's a shame that one cannot discuss possible human error from both sides, without being accused of "piling on". I understand your passion and bias being a formal official....but yes, officials can make mistakes as well. They are human.
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11 hours ago, JustRules said:
I don't have a copy of the NFL rule book, but we are fortunate to have several NFL officials in Indiana who know the rules. They've shared with me you can report either verblly or physically. Usually it's just one eligible player giving a quick signal to the R who then announces and tells the defense. They can verbally tell them as well. As long as they communicate. It's usually a very simple, uncomplicated thing. The Lions decided to get cute and it backfired. The referee likely didn't look for any additional people reporting because he knew there were 6 ineligible numbers on the field and 1 of them reported to him as ineligible. If you watch the all-22 video he gets the attention of the area shortly after he started moving from the sideline area. This was coming out of a time out. The Lions sent 11 players out and then swapped out 2 of them including 70.
Yes, I guess you can say the referee "assumed" 70 was reporting, but it was because 70 gave him a clear "reporting" signal as he ran in from the sideline as he had done the entire game. I'm not blindly supporting the official. I'm just stating what you can clearly see on video.
Everything that I have read online, including from NFL.com, it is not an "or" option. It is an "and" option. That was my point about did the official possibly assume based on what he saw and not what he heard. (#70) I would also have to assume, he never heard or saw #68 report, unless he saw the signal from 70, heard the verbal report from 68, and assumed it was 70. Those are absolute possibilities of human error potential from the official.
The video sent Tuesday underscores that it is a player's responsibility to make certain his status change "is clearly communicated to the referee by both a physical signal up and down his chest and to report to the referee his intention to report as an eligible receiver."
1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:I have seen NFL lineman come in brushing their front of chest to indicate their eligible for years.
And because you are not down on an NFL field, my guess is that you could not hear their verbal indication which is also required.
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2 hours ago, Muda69 said:
https://deadspin.com/college-football-bowl-opt-out-kirby-smart-nfl-draft-1851137588
A smart, free-market solution to this growing problem.
Perhaps the market is speaking....so many of these bowl games had terrible attendance...even with the New Year Day bowls outside of CFP. Perhaps people are getting tired of .500 teams and some sub .500 teams playing bowls. If players don't see them as important, why should people spend their hard earned dollars.
On the flip side, it was nice to see Bo Nix (Oregon QB) play his final game in an overall meaningless game for him.
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6 minutes ago, Muda69 said:
Oh well. Your loss.
lol...ok...my loss
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Just now, Muda69 said:
And in his current role at the Indy Star he is not a journalist. Shit stirrer's bring hits/views, and advertising dollars.
I understand his role...but he was first a journalist and one would hope there would be an ounce of integrity.
This has also lost the STAR some business as well....I am hounded via email, social media, etc. for some pretty cheap subscription offers....I won't go back until he is gone. I don't miss it one bit. Too many news options
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22 hours ago, JustRules said:
I agree with your assessment. The R clearly communicates with 70. 70 is brushing his chest as he's running to the R so that is a form of reporting. He wasn't intending to actually report. Coach Campbell has admitted they were attempting to deceive the Cowboys defense so they didn't know who was reporting. There is nothing wrong with doing that, but I don't get why they would do it. The referee is going to tell the defense who reported so any deception goes away long before the they get lined up. It's 100% on the Lions to make sure the referee knows who is reporting. The R never acknowledged 68 but he did acknowledge 70 so even if they didn't hear the announcement on the PA of 70 reporting as eligible, 70 knew he was the one identified as eligible by the R. The referee had no idea he had the wrong number so I'm not sure how he can be faulted in any way here. If the Lions had made sure 68 was the one who was considered as reporting the play was perfectly legal.
I love how the officials run to one side of the fence every single time....of course, officials don't make mistakes. 🙄
Can you show me the NFL rule where it states a form of lineman reporting as a eligible receiver is the "brushing of their chest"? .....
I guess there no absolute way the official could have "assumed" 70 was reporting, correct?
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11 minutes ago, Muda69 said:
I don't see limited evidence. If this evidence was so 'limited' why was Mr. Harbaugh banned from the sideline for 6 games this season?
Please, I would like to read this list of posters, and exactly why they more legitimacy regarding college football than Mr. Doyel.
You are wasting your breath Muda...of course he broke rules...not once, but twice. His own university that initially all but threatened to leave the Big 10 over the second allegation, immediately rolled over on him, shut their mouths and accepted the Big 10 punishment. But recognize who you are debating with...In his eyes, Harbaugh has and will always be the victim, and no amount of facts will change it.
Now, where I do agree with Temp is about Doyel....he is a huge disappointment as a journalist. Sadly the Star and Gannett pay him to be nothing more than a $hit stirrer.
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more links to the San Diego job for Harbaugh
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15 hours ago, Boilernation said:
He's gone. What else is there to prove at Michigan? He goes out currently owning Ohio State, Big Ten, and possibly College Football. He's not going to go through a reset at Michigan when he wants that Super Bowl trophy.
This article claims the Chargers are gaining steam in getting Harbaugh as their next head coach. I can see this because of their home, stadium and most importantly, they have a QB. Would be good to get him in the pros and out of the college game, given the need to follow rules.
Finebaum confident he is leaving Michigan.
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1 hour ago, Titan32 said:
Correct...and 70 had reported multiple times before in an effort to set up the ruse for this play when they sent two guys....68 got there a little late after the ref took off to inform the Cowboys about #70. Perhaps he yelled "me too ref", we will never really know.
70 stated he did not report…he clearly walked toward official. I don’t think he’s lying. Because of past reporting, I think the official heard #68 and assumed #70. Think it was a simple assumption error that ended up being a game changer. But, guess we are all speculating unless down on the field. Hope the NFL actually investigates, arrives at the true error, and works to eliminate future failure potential. This error will result in more than a game, it will impact playoff seeding.
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38 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:
Glad to see some new blood and both games be highly competitive. Refreshing for a change.
Thought UM would have opened as a much bigger favorite but suppose it'll get bet up a few more points before kick off. I do think UM has a big advantage in the trenches but Penix does such a great job of getting the ball out on time and delivering it on point. Michigan will ground and pound until Washington stops it, can they score enough points to keep it close?
I guess we shall see about the trenches....looks like UDUB received the award for the nation's top offensive line. As you stated, Penix does not need much time, the UW's receivers will certainly stretch the field. I do agree Washington will have to commit all 7 up front to stop the run...so their DB's better be on their game.
Washington having their RB injured does not help them at all.....
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14 hours ago, BTF said:
I don't think Harbaugh is innocent, but I also don't believe Saban is squeaky clean. I still think he's the John Wooden of college football.
Disclaimer: No dog in this fight.
Your speculation about Saban's integrity as a coach could be correct. But what we know for fact is this...Saban has never been suspended during a season for rules violations, let alone 2 different suspensions for different rules violations during same season.
Another fact...I am no Bama or SEC fan by any stretch.....
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13 hours ago, Boilernation said:
Lofty expectations? Are you familiar with why that season was awful? Saban wanted the Dolphins to trade for Drew Brees when it was clear the Chargers didn't want him. The Dolphins execs didn't want Brees and instead gave Saban an injured Daune Culpepper who never recovered and went on the IR a few weeks into the season. Saban is on record as saying he knew once the decision was made to take Culpepper over Brees (despite his wishes) he was going back to college.
Excellent reminder....
People forget there is a massive difference in the college vs pro game. Not many have started in college and transition to a HOF NFL coaching career...exceptions such as Vermeil, but not a ton. Bottom line, no coach is going to be successful in the NFL without a quality QB...especially in today's NFL.
The latter is why the news about the LA Chargers now in play for Harbaugh is so interesting. They have the QB...and that is the key first piece. Additionally, they may be open to giving Jimmy Boy more front office power without a GM in place. This one will be interesting to watch. He just may be headed back to Cali...SoCal this time.
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On 12/31/2023 at 2:42 PM, temptation said:
I just can’t with you anymore dude. You know the sport and you almost had me until you tried to cite bowl games results as an indicator of schedule and conference strength.
It isn’t the 1990s anymore. OSU played without its two most important players and had zero motivation in the Cotton Bowl.
I mean if we are gonna play this game, let’s at least be consistent and not cherry pick.
A Maryland team that gave Michigan everything it could handle just went out and throttled an Auburn team that Bama needed a miracle to beat last month.
Do you know how ridiculous you sound or are you just being purposefully dense at this stage?
You want Michigan to lose so badly tomorrow so you can get on here and take some sort of victory lap and somehow validate all of your garbage takes on this thread.
Did Harbaugh date your wife when he played for the Colts in the 90s? Something is off here.
Then simply shut your mouth. The issue was you embellishing Michigan’s opening 3 opponents when we were discussing McCarthy’s stats earlier vs later in the season. You go with rambling dissertations about nothing in general. Just blowing hot air. We get it…you are nothing more than a Wolverine and Harbaugh butt sniff.
Sad part, I’m a big 10 guy..but got choose between a cheating program vs Bama. Not a great choice.
Enjoy the game…and try shutting your fat mouth when it comes to making comments about wives, you keyboard coward.
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2 hours ago, temptation said:
But Ricky (purposefully) attempted to paint a narrative with his slick use of the term “resigned” even though Stallions missed the MSU game. I simply pointed out that the back half of the schedule was more loaded than the front half and you shifted the goalposts in another attempt to disparage and support the ridiculous/irresponsible graphic posted by CBS.
Stats look a bit different if you include the MSU game, no?
1186 yards, 5 TD’s 1 INT with a 73% completion percentage once that one is added in.
Its open season on Michigan/Harbaugh right now and everyone nationally is piling on and clutching their pearls.
We agreed the back half of the schedule offered a higher degree of difficulty for Michigan. But then you attempted to embellish the first part of their schedule by stating Bowling Green and UNLV played in bowls. Big deal. They are programs that Michigan should run over and you know it. The first 3 games for Michigan offered very little for the Wolverines in terms of competition for non-conference games. Would have liked to seen them challenge themselves a little more, but worked out for them. The way Penn State and OSU played in their bowl games doesn’t overwhelm most with Michigan’s overall schedule this year
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21 hours ago, temptation said:
You are doing your homework in crayon apparently then. You’re all over the place and you seem to have an obsession with Harbaugh with “tinted” glasses…
Harbaugh’s players and fellow coaching staff members love him by the way. You and the click hungry screwballs in the national media just can’t help yourselves.
The discussion was Michigan’s first few games this season and your attempt to make these programs look stronger than what they are. UM rolled East Carolina, UNLV and Bowling Green as they should have…with or without Harbaugh. All are mid majors period. No shock Michigan QB put up good stats against those teams. Stop trying to deflect and change the topic of the conversation.
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5 hours ago, temptation said:
Did they though? I mean it wasn’t murderer’s row but ended up being more respectable than first thought. Bowling Green won 7 games and UNLV 9.
And you knew exactly what you were attempting to do when you shared the tweet, which is framed in an irresponsible way I’d also like to point out.
Though Stallions did not resign until the bye week, he was not on the sideline for the game against Michigan State because he was suspended. So had the graphic included that game and been titled “with/without Stallions” I would have a tiny ounce more respect.
The MSU game was JJ’s best game of the year by the way.
21/27, 287 yards, 4 TD’s…
Have folks really shifted the goal posts from “Michigan knew other teams’ offensive signs” to “their quarterback, benefited from the sign stealer, recognizing the defense that the opposition was in and relating it to the quarterback?” Come on.
All of those ridiculous photos that hit social media where Stallions was standing next to the defensive staff yet I haven’t seen one that shows him next to Sherrone Moore.
The media has gotten desperate at this point and it’s just downright pathetic.
Do some homework on this catapult sport story that is breaking slowly and report back to me.
I do as much homework as you, just don’t wear rose colored glasses jock sniffing my favorite team. You can’t have it both ways…you claim QB stats are down because of a tougher schedule at end, then try to defend quality of first few games. For Michigan, they were cupcakes and you know it. So stop arguing because you are bored.
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4 hours ago, temptation said:
It’s almost like the back half of the schedule was loaded with better teams, huh?
Played 3 of the top 4 defenses in the country in the last month.
I shared a tweet. That’s all.
But we do agree…UM opened up with a cream puff schedule….during Jimmy’s first set of games suspension.
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41 minutes ago, BTF said:
I would argue what Kelly did at Notre Dame with his resources was equally, if not more, impressive than what Saban has done at Alabama. Saban is a good coach for sure. Again, Top 25 is a compliment.
Ok…if I follow your logic about Kelly, then why hasn’t LSU been a lock for CFP the last 2 years? Saban also won a natty at LSU…in either his 2nd or 3rd year at the school.
I’m not knocking Kelly…just don’t see him at the level of Saban. Please know I’m not in any way a Bama fan or a Saban guy.
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1 hour ago, BTF said:
I'm sure there are 25 coaches out there that could do the same thing with the talent that he had. Top 25 is a compliment if you consider the number of college football programs sits at over 830.
But they haven’t, so….
He obtained that talent over the years by resurrecting and sustaining a top tier program in arguably the toughest conference. You make it sound like a walk in the park…
5 hours ago, BTF said:All this being said, how can one claim that Saban is a better coach than Brian Kelly given what Kelly did over a ten year span at a university with high academic standards. I've been saying for years that Nick Saban might be one of the best 25 coaches in the country. It's hard to say he's top five given the advantages he has with top tier talent.
Kelly has absolutely no excuses now when it comes to academic standards…
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18 hours ago, temptation said:
Also, I like this one better.
A shot of Jim Harbaugh, Ryan Day and Nick Saban.
Well played. That’s funny!
Harbaugh’s Hands Caught in Cookie Jar
in The Next Level
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Send me a bill for the rent space...hold your breath and wait for the check. Please.