First_Backer_Inside

You are certainly right and I forget about other sports often when talking about success factor, moving conferences, seeding sectionals, etc...However we're kidding ourselves if we don't say that football is the driving force and reason for anything high school sports. The only reason we have the success factor is because you had the LCC, Luers, Chatard, and Cathedral teams winning state every year in football. I've never heard of another reason from another sport. Maybe I was too young at the time to hear anything different, but I also had a dad that coached anything and everything under the sun with a lot of other coaches. I feel like I would've heard something, but all I remember hearing them talk about was the four private schools dominating the football tournament year in and out. Also are there a lot of schools having the success factor applied to them outside of football?

I think sectionals definitely matter, but there's only a total of about 10 schools since the success factor has been implemented that have won 5 straight sectionals, let alone 6 or 13 lol, and all but about 2 are 5a or 6a schools. So unless we want to send Center Grove off to play D3 football, they are gonna keep winning sectional championships yes.

Not likely that the TRC will bring anyone else in. For whatever reason the conference likes the idea of having 10 teams in it. No more no less.

My guess would be no divisions and have a true conference. 9 teams in the conference. Play everyone and have 1 non conference game. Its not ideal and contracts might have to be broken, but that's what I see the best outcome being. Until Westside and Benton Central leaves and then its back to the drawing board.

Was just about to say the same thing myself. I'm sure there's a few AD's and coaches from the littler schools in the TRC that are more than okay with trying to figure out how to schedule the one conference team they weren't going to play this year than having to play against Valley.

It will be interesting to see what Valley athletes decide to pack up shop and ask for a transfer for their senior year. Might not be important to all of them, but there are a lot of really good seniors on that roster that will now miss out on a conference championship and conference accolades that many of them will deserve for their senior year. Would mean the only championship they are eligible for is a sectional championship and so on and well...Chatard is still in that sectional as well as Geurin Catholic.

A lot of wins. Not a lot of seasons with more than 10 or 11 games played though.

While from a competition standpoint it would be great for both teams, I don't see it happening either. Valley enjoys beating up on the conference way too much in football. The deal breaker for Rochester would be travel time. The traveling for the TRC for Rochester is already bad enough, adding on even more in a tougher conference. Not gonna happen. Let Rochester play every conference game at home and they are in!

I was just talking about this with someone that football overshadows all other sports it feels like when talking about a restructure in conferences. Allowed myself to be blinded by the same thing. You bring up an excellent point there with the other sports. And you think by adding two middle of their class schools will tip that balance too much for the 1A teams to handle? Glenn is a lot larger in enrollment than I thought and could cause problems down the road and with other sports. But Bremen is a large 2a/small 3a maybe eventually. The only problem I see with Bremen is location. Just my opinion. Become a better coach. Become a better player and rise up to your competition. The hoosier conference is a prime example with teams like LCC, Cass, and Tipton trying to compete with the juggernaut that is West Lafayette. It can be done. Maybe won't happen every year but can be done.

To become more tournament ready. Not one school in the HNAC(from the 1A schools) is close to matching the physicality of Adams Central and possibly even South Adams. Adding these two schools is only going to make you tougher when it comes to tournament time. It's going to be a while before any of those teams are able to compete for a conference title regardless of the other two teams joining or not so I don't see what it's going to hurt. Just going to make you better.

I agree, the coach definitely should receive some form of punishment. He could've easily escalated this to Malace at the Palace 2.0

Bingo, you don't want CTE, don't go to the league and make millions of dollars. Get a 9-5 job. The answer to this question is that easy.

At Rochester, we have a drill we run called "Touchdown drill". Players get divided up into groups and each player starts 15 yards from the end zone and runs the ball in for a touchdown. The group has to then go and congratulate them and find a teammate to celebrate with. If you want kids to do it, you have to practice it. Like you said team success is the whole point, not tearing down the other team with a celebration. If you are that good of a team, let the scoreboard speak for itself.

The QB from last year was a fantastic leader and was just limited to size(5'7" on a good day) and ability but was well respected by his teammates. The QB for next year will probably be a sophomore who's probably up to 6'2" and a lot more athletic and can sling it. Had a great freshman year as the JV QB so it will be interesting to see next year how the coaching staff looks to utilize him.

8 starters on offense. 8 on defense.

LCC would have to be eliminated in Sectional play next year to go back down into 1A again if I'm not mistaken. Tall task for everyone else in Sectional 34.

I'd imagine if this were still the case, Jeff would have a lot more seasons like the one they had this year.

Right after they get that blue ring and medal? lol

The problem with a four team playoff for those classes is determining what four make it in. You have to base it on something whether it is a point system, sagarin rating, wins, losses, point differential, etc...the list could go on and on. It's too much work for the IHSAA to come up with. It's a lot easier to just let everyone in, bounce around some ping pong balls, and list the names of the schools as they fall. Your idea isn't a bad one, just never gonna happen or at least not any time soon. As for starting with 1A and moving up rather than 6A and moving down, you have an excellent point there. I forget where I heard it but someone mathematically(numbers don't lie) explained to me that it would make a lot more sense for classification and enrollment to do the classes this way.

The private schools just worked harder and wanted it more

It was only 3 years in a row so doesn't equate to my example lol, also like I said above they were public schools so it was cool because it never happens anymore in the lower classes.

You're completely right people wouldn't have been as impressed. The fact that a public school did it makes it very impressive because it never happens these days in the lower classes. I'm not saying it isn't impressive for a private school because it is. Its hard no matter who you are to reload and have a state team multiple years in a row, but it happens so much with private schools so everyone sees it just as another boring couple years that a private was able to dominate again.

That's because Center Grove is in 6A. The only way to stop them from winning another state championship would be to tell them they can't be in the tournament. These other teams can be bumped up and werent this last reclassification so its a little annoying is all.

Splitting up the sectionals isn't working for moving privates either. If you look at 2A, not a single private was in the same sectional to my knowledge(one sectional might actually have one but for the most part they are pretty split up). It seems to me like all of those privates are just getting bottled up in 2A because they are winning their sectional, and then beating each other in the regional causing them to stay in 2A rather than move up or down. The place to be right now is 1A. After next year your going to have 2 private schools left in the reclassification, Park Tudor in the North possibly and Covenant Christian in the South more than likely(who knows how the IHSAA will form Sectionals).

Gotta love the success factor really doing its jo....oh nevermind. Feels like I'm back in the years 09-12 watching LCC and Luers win the 1A and 2A title every freakin year only now its Lutheran and Andrean instead.