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Nothing on IHSAA website other than what has been there for recent seasons....

Somewhat off topic, but remember that IHSAA is going away from the 1A/3A/5A day and a 2A/4A/6A day.  This year they are setting the finals to be more "geographically friendly"...

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2020/07/02/ihsaa-changes-football-state-finals-schedule-voting-eight-man-football-proposal/5368098002/

FTA

"This year, as voted by the IHSAA executive committee, the state finals matchups, dates and times will not necessarily be played in its usual format. If matchups allow, schools from a similar geographical area may be grouped into consecutive games or at least on the same day. The schedule will now be announced following the semistate games."

13 hours ago, DT said:

Several schools shut their programs down early due to an overabundance of caution.  Not arguing their logic, just pointing out the ultra conservative nature of decision making.  I believe this type of decision making will continue going forward.

 

 

 

Abundance means a "large amount of something".....by referring to their level of caution as an OVERabundance I think you are subconsciously arguing that logic #Freud 😇

12 hours ago, HoopsCoach said:

I don’t think Clinton Prairie would challenge the health officer’s order, but I would be interested in seeing it since this varies from county to county.  Test everyone like Southwood did.  If they come back negative, play.  Traders Point may not agree to that though and it would put them in a difficult position.  A school not far away changed their close contact policy to differ from their county health officer’s criteria (health officer said 3-6 feet is a close contact, school said only within 3 feet).  The school board notified the health officer of their plan (basically to get the officer’s blessing) to have a different criteria and approved the policy.

Does this school "not far away" happen to have 3 ft OL splits?🤔

The optics would be bad for anyone who knows where the gate money goes for those ticket sales.....

It will be interesting if crowd sizes are allowed to increase at regionals and beyond....

12 hours ago, HHPatriots said:

Smaller school gives more opportunity for kids that wouldn't play otherwise.  Heritage Hills has around 600 students.  You will have a dozen or so on a basketball team.  Carmel has almost 5000 students.  You still have a dozen or so on the team (I would assume).   There are surely kids that would be excellent ball players that would be playing if they weren't at the mega school.

I live in the country, but if I moved to a city, say Indy for example, I would be far more inclined to Westfield or Danville than Carmel or Fishers.  Gives your "normal" kid the opportunity to play.  I'm a small town guy, that is my bias....I dunno.

I'm fairly biased towards Westfield.....but to be fair, Westfield is a lot more like Fishers than it is Danville.  Hamilton Heights would be a better comparison to Danville.  Westfield enrollment is about 2,500 and will be getting closer to 3,000 in next five to ten.

Does the IHSAA get the money for 1st round sectional ticket sales???🤔

I posted this in the other thread....but the matchups for 6A sectionals ened up pretty close to how you'd seed them.  Blind squirrels and nuts they would say....😂

Is it just me....or did 6A sectionals turn out almost like they were seeded?  Maybe not the Home/Away....but at least the match-ups.

2 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

They are afraid what is fair and right, that is God's Time, known as Central Time zone:   One day they will get back on our train. 

It is an abomination to man that Indiana is on Eastern Time.  Anytime the school start time debate happens, I find it interesting that people suggest starting school at 9am is the only answer to "kids shouldn't be waiting for the bus in the dark" issue. 

Ummm...what do you expect when your state is on the same time as the Atlantic Seaboard.....maybe putting the state on a time that makes astronomical sense would be the "A" answer.  (Bias alert:  I also would like MNF, to start at 8pm)

Running joke between my region/Chicago buddies whenever they come visit...."Hey, hope that 30 minute drive went well...Welcome to the East Coast!"

Why??🙄

Get well soon Coach!

1 hour ago, oldunclemark said:

Everybody would have to distance or nobody would......You wouldnt know who was who.

I’ve been to MANY places that are designed around the premise of family units that can be together....and spaced from other similar units...

Dentist/Doctors offices, restaurants, Indy Zoo, etc, etc, etc

I think there are a great many, in current practice, mechanisms to handle exactly this.

However, whether or not common sense would prevail is a completely different discussion....

A family unit shouldn’t have to socially distance.  If Jimmy’s Mom, Dad, and baby sister want to come they shouldn’t have to spread out.  I don’t see there being an issue allowing each athlete 2-4 “family” unit members depending on the size of team/stadium/ etc

Posted in general as well....

The way I read this a school can still have a Marching Band, they could still play on Friday nights....they just aren’t having the big competitions?

13 hours ago, Irishman said:

I will be curious to see how each district handles things like a player or multiple players on a team becoming infected. I am thinking we could pin a topic as plans become solidified. 

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Which brings up another issue..........what could happen if multiple coaches get infected within a close time frame? 

Should be rephrased to what happens when you FIND out 5-20% of your team is ALREADY infected and asymptomatic?  Keep in mind some of the things we do KNOW about all this.  

• Most people are asymptomatic (especially young healthy people - high school athletes).
• It would go without saying, temperature checks will NOT identify these individuals (which will be almost all of the players who are positive).  However, once someone tests positive and the contact tracing starts....expect to find that anywhere from 5-20% (based on reported data) of a "random" population will test positive for either COVID or Antibodies.

1 hour ago, DanteEstonia said:

I taught my classes online last quarter. As long as my students have access to an Internet connection and a Chromebook, they will learn and I will teach. The primary purpose of school is learning after all.

I teach Human Anat/Phys and Vertebrate Zoology.  I promise you my kids did not get what they should have from the course.  They did ok with the watered down version they were forced into.

re: Grandpa & Grandma being forced to make the decision about having a burger with their grandkids.  Total red herring question.   Are these kids NOT going to school?  Football should not be in the calculus for that decision, if you are worried about that...the kids are already riding buses and sitting in classrooms with hundreds/thousands of other kids each day.  That should already force that decision. 

Here's the reality....unless we go back to eLearning, kids are going to be in class and on buses much like they always were (schools may tell you otherwise, but I don't see it).  Football or other sports is NOT significantly raising their risks above what they are encountering during the school day.

5 hours ago, oldtimeqb said:

And I am 100 times more concerned about heat exhaustion/illness by a player who hasn’t been working out in July heat than anything else.

Players CANNOT use “communal” water sources.  But water must be provided.  

I assume this means they need to bring their own bottle, and school must have a place to refill those?

That restriction doesn’t seem to disappear after phase 1.

I think most staff’s will find ways to make this work.  
 

I’m more curious about the return to school recommendations and how that will work.  How closely do schools need to adhere to these “considerations”?  Or are they “guidelines” in the Pirate Code sense?  If they are expected to be strictly adhered to, things will be far from “normal”.  Interesting that the state asks for schools to discuss liability with the district insurance provider (pg 4).  I struggle to see high schools being able to function anywhere close to “normal” if these are thought of as strictly adhered to “rules”.

@Bobref...enlighten us!!!

On 4/30/2020 at 1:20 PM, wabashalwaysfights said:

And before you scoff at that notion, do two things; ask a spring sport coach what the most annoying thing about playing in the spring is, most will tell you it is navigating spring break. Secondly, look at how many people still traveled this past spring break as we went from 0 to 100 on restrictions, because I can tell you in our area it was a lot of folks.  Do I still have an appetite for football in the spring?  Hell yes!  I tried to watch every AAF and XFL game I could. 

Many.....Many schools have a one week fall break during football season.  Some during the last week of season or first week of tournament 

24 minutes ago, wrcsage said:

The IHSAA won’t mess with spring sports for 2 consecutive years.  And let’s say this fantasy of spring football does happen, the IHSAA will take a financial hit because attendance will not be what it is in the fall.  The way the tournament is set up now you have the state finals during a break...allowing for 2 consecutive days of state finals games.  How does that look like in the spring?

If there is no football this fall then what you will see is the IHSAA taking a big % (or 100%) of the sectional revenues from girls and boys basketball in 20-21 and then likely the same thing in the fall of 21 with football and possibly both basketballs.  This pandemic is most certainly putting a strain on the budgets of the IHSAA and athletic departments, but what I fear more is what does this pandemic do to state education funding next year and the future?  There may be some major issues there.    

State Finals would likely be in June, similar to Baseball.  I don't know that...but the Ohio proposal does something similar.  I also don't think attendance will be as affected as you think, the appetite for football would be huge, and the novelty of it would likely draw crowds especially if social distancing was done by then.

I'm not saying I want this to happen....I want us to come back from moratorium and be back to football.  

6 hours ago, Staxawax said:

As Bobby Cox was quoted in The Star article, football is the #1 money maker, and combined with Boys Basketball helps pay for spring sports.  There may not be another option than to play football in the spring....... killing 2 birds with 1 stone.  Getting the revenue and not have to pay for spring sports.

For the non-football schools, let them have their spring sports and have tournaments that are non-class, although it would be mostly small schools anyway.

Start the season the 1st Friday in March, 6 games, 3 home and 3 road for all. Tournament would start mid-April, no bye weeks and finish up early May. Eliminate conferences for the season since a full slate can not be played. Not ideal I know, but at least there will be a season, and that would still leave 10 weeks or so before fall practice.

This is the real reason.  Football gate money and the State Finals fund high school sports.  If social distancing practices (of some type...think "large crowds") are still in place this fall, it would prevent that revenue....it is not just "outside of the box" thinking, you could argue its the financially responsible decision.  I would hate it personally, but not over the choice of just cancelling football for an entire year.

As far as conflicting with basketball state finals....I think a lot of IHSAA "dates" would be shuffled if such a change would occur.  I don't always agree with IHSAA decisions, but I have faith they'd get that figured out.

Saw that Gov Holcomb said no “non-essential” gatherings of 250+....

Nothing on IFCA Twitter yet

Entire state of Ohio just closed schools for 3 weeks.

https://www.dispatch.com/news/20200312/coronavirus-ohio-to-close-schools-ban-gatherings-of-more-than-100-people

On 2/26/2020 at 10:26 AM, RetiredOfficial03 said:

...compared to Marsh, who never won as a head coach. 

Without getting into why Coach Marsh left, I think this is a bit strong. 

Roncalli's postseason success the last 15 years has been based almost entirely upon whether they had to play Cathedral.  I think the last time Scifres beat Cathedral in the tournament was '05 or '04.  Marsh was there 3 years...lost to Cathedral twice.  His predecessor had a lot of L's to Cathedral in the decade prior.  But the Rebs made some deep runs and got a title when Cathedral moved up.  Hats off to them....a lot of other schools are in that boat, it shouldn't be seen as a slight.

Maybe I'm out of my lane, but I don't see Coach Marsh's performance being any different than the last decade of Coach Scifres' tenure.  Maybe that's just where the Reb's are right now?  Hats of to Coach Rodenberg if he can take them through Cathedral consistently.