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Sure. Piece of cake.

I’m just trying to take from the electoral cycle we just went through and extrapolate that to 6 separate plebiscites, each on a vital national issue. And it’s really 50 x 6, isn’t it? Sort of boggles the mind. I don’t know if they’re “more” corrupt. They’re certainly better at it. 😉

Just curious @DanteEstonia, you’ve obviously given this subject a great deal of thought, and have formed strong opinions. Just how many distinct amendments would you propose to add or repeal?

The fact is, there’s been a significant drop off after the top 2 teams for several years now. The Bucks think they’re breaking through to that level now. We’ll see.

No idea. But I do know that this is a very different America than 1913. So, I’m not sure we can take much from that experience.

That’s a very interesting scenario. Do you think the outcry that would result from a 2-loss non conference champion Clemson getting in would be a catalyst for expanding the field, changing the process, etc.?

And with our inability to achieve consensus on even the smallest issues, what are the chances of any meaningful effort to do that now?

I wasn’t around during the Civil War, but in my lifetime I cannot recall a time when the American people have been so divided, and not just on different sides. They’re on the extremes of both sides. So, IMO, the gulf is wider than ever. What we saw this past year was nothing short of civil unrest aimed at the government. There is a reasonable possibility that the next great issue to divide us - regardless of what it is - will result in the same, only orders of magnitude greater, since many legitimized this year’s civil unrest in the name of political expediency. IMO, it is not at all far-fetched to think of whole sections of cities ablaze, martial law, troops in the streets.

They won’t. The election is over. The pandemic was weaponized and used to bring down Trump. He helped ... a lot. It’s served it’s purpose. There’s a vaccine in production. The politicos will move on to the next great cause, and the pandemic will be ... whatever.

Speculation. That’s all anyone has from this point forward. Here’s what I expect to happen: Clemson will beat Notre Dame, OSU will beat Northwestern, Bama will beat Florida. The final order will be: 1. Alabama 2. Clemson. 3. OSU. 4. Notre Dame. Then, in the semis, Bama will beat ND, Clemson will beat OSU. In the finals, Bama crushes Clemson. In other words, chalk.

Buchner did not play this year as CA canceled their high school season. Unfortunately, I think that means he’ll get out of the gate more slowly than he would otherwise.

Yeah, but when he wears his hat, you can’t see it.

For those of you not fluent in Dabo-speak, here’s the translation: “We think Ohio State will kick our butts.”

I think he had gotten rid of the ball before his helmet came completely off.

Are you sure it’s #3? I just watched it, and the last shot of him in the video he is sitting on the turf with his helmet fully on. I watched him throughout the play and didn’t see his helmet come off.

He is The Chosen One.

There’s a clear way to make that game irrelevant. I think we’ll opt for that.

A bold, unprovable, and undoubtedly wrong statement. The B1G has some great venues, no doubt. But I can name 3 places that are bigger nightmares for visitors than any B1G venue. 1. Ever seen a night game down on the bayou at LSU? UNTIL 2015 THEY HAD AN ACTUAL FULL GROWN BENGAL TIGER AT THE GAMES. You want to talk about intimidating? 2. Why do you think they call Clemson “Death Valley?” https://clemsontigers.com/death-valley/ 3. Bryant-Denny Stadium at Alabama is the stuff of nightmares for visitors.

Agreed. ESPN ranks their class No. 8, which is pretty much the best we can expect, given our recruiting limitations.

If you go back and read the first post in this topic, you’ll see this kid’s name mentioned. A lot of people think he may be The Chosen One to lead us back to a national championship. He’s formally in the fold now. 6,000 yds. of total offense and accounted for 81 TDS as a junior! So, let it begin. https://www.si.com/college/notredame/recruiting/notre-dame-football-signs-tyler-buchner TYLER BUCHNER PROFILE Hometown: La Mesa, Calif. High School: Helix Height: 6-2 Weight: 200 2019 Stats: 4,474 passing yards, 1,610 rushing yards, 53 passing touchdowns, 28 rushing touchdowns IB Grade: 4.5 (Top 50 caliber player) Upside Grade: 5.0 Offers: Notre Dame, Alabama, Georgia, USC, Michigan, Oregon, Nebraska, TCU, Utah, UCLA, Washington State, Arizona, Arizona State, Yale, Columbia, Penn Recruited By: Tommy Rees, Chip Long SI99 Rank: No. 55 overall ESPN: 4-star - No. 39 overall 247Sports: 4-star - No. 88 overall Rivals: 4-star - No. 111 overall Composite: 4-star - No. 65 overall FILM ANALYSIS Buchner is an advanced passer that still has plenty of room to improve from both a physical and technical aspect. Buchner does not have a bazooka for an arm, but it still grades out. What makes his arm talent elite is that his arm strength is enhanced by an incredibly quick release. Not since Jimmy Clausen signed has a Notre Dame quarterback prospect showed the advanced feel for playing the position that Buchner displayed as a junior. His anticipation and timing are excellent, and there is snap after snap on film where Buchner is releasing the ball before his receiver is out of his break. His ability to throw receivers open is on the level you’d expect from a college quarterback, not a high school junior that missed all but one game the previous season. Buchner is incredibly diverse, which is part of the reason is intangible grade is so high. He can play a clean game from the pocket, he can be a gunslinger that changes his arm angles and throws on the run, and he look like a run-throw quarterback, evidenced by his 1,610 rushing yards and 28 touchdowns on the ground. The altered throwing motion he displayed during the summer and him not playing as a senior due to California canceling the high school season give me cause for some slight concern, but Buchner has immense physical talent and he’s a high character young man. NOTRE DAME FIT First and foremost, Notre Dame wants a quarterback that can go through progressions and beat teams from the pocket. Buchner has the arm strength, release speed, accuracy and intelligence to become that kind of player. Buchner has the athleticism and running talent to do damage when plays break down, and he can make plays out of the pocket. He can do all the things that Ian Book did in the last month, but Buchner is bigger, more athletic, more dynamic and has a much better arm than Book possessed at the same age. He and Phil Jurkovec were the two highest graded quarterbacks to sign with Notre Dame in the last decade. While Jurkovec had better size, was far more productive in high school and had a stronger arm, Buchner has a more concise throwing motion and is a bit more comfortable playing from the pocket.

I guess I should read the whole article. This is the kid from Avon, IN, not Avon, OH. So, there should be a lot of people knowledgeable about him.

Irish pick up a big time OL recruit from my old stomping grounds, Avon, OH. https://www.si.com/college/notredame/recruiting/notre-dame-football-signs-blake-fisher

The TV angle was less than optimal.

You could have 50 unsportsmanlike penalties for people running onto the field. It wouldn’t matter. Once they ruled the fumble had been recovered by the prone player, everything that happened after that was irrelevant.