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The editor timed out before I finished. A player who lines up and is neither a back nor a lineman, if he is not the QB, causes the formation to be illegal under 7-2-3. He can’t legally go downfield on a pass, he’s not an eligible receiver, he can’t legally touch a forward pass, and he can’t be in motion at the snap unless he fulfills the requirements of 7-2-7. All of these are fouls. All routinely occur when the wingback lines up too close to the LOS. All are routinely ignored. Until now? Stay tuned. @US31 does that answer your question?
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The definitions of a “lineman” and a “back” have not changed. Rule 2-32 “ART. 3 . . . A back is any A player who has no part of his body breaking the plane of an imaginary line drawn parallel to the line of scrimmage through the waist of the nearest teammate who is legally on the line, except for the player under the snapper, who is also considered a back.” “ART. 9 . . . A lineman is any A player who is facing his opponent’s goal line with the line of his shoulders approximately parallel thereto and with his head or foot breaking an imaginary plane drawn parallel to the line of scrimmage through the waist of the snapper when the ball is snapped.” So, a player assuming a position where neither his head nor foot breaks the plane through the waist of the snapper, but who does have any part of his body breaking the plane of the waist of the nearest lineman teammate, is neither a back nor a lineman.
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I’m referring to the common practice of lining a wingback up so that his position is neither on the line nor in the backfield. There are many implications that flow from lining up in that position … all of which are routinely ignored.
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Makes sense, but for Fields’ contract situation. The Bears have until this May, I believe, to pick up the 5th year option, at a cost of about $25 million. Do you want your starting QB to be playing on an expiring contract? That’s a guaranteed “pulled hamstring.” 😉
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Triple that … where the Bears are concerned.
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I believe they also have one guy specifically designated to monitor the line to gain equipment. You know, to make sure no one gets hit in the eye … 🤣😂
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Those were the alternates, I believe. They are always there. But, obviously, they have now been given an expanded role. I like it. Gives the guys on the field help when they need it most.
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I can’t help but think that if it had been an official making a mistake of that magnitude he’d have to get a new identity, complete with plastic surgery, and move to Paraguay.
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Minshew has done a great job … in his role as a backup, which he accepted There was no QB controversy there. There would be if both Fields and Caleb Williams were on the same roster.
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Might be interesting if they do that. It’s been a long time since someone in Chicago was tarred & feathered, and ridden out of town on a rail.
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Romison St. Louis Out at Elkhart
Bobref replied to Bobref's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I The “stunner” label has nothing to do with the Coach. It’s just that in the 57 seasons of Munster football, they’ve only had 3 coaches … and all have had close ties to Munster. John Friend lived in Munster and kids from Munster went to Hammond High, where he was Bernie Kreuger’s assistant, before Munster opened. Leroy Marsh was Coach Friend’s assistant for many years. Jason Grunewald was a player at Munster and was Marsh’s OC for many years. To my knowledge, Coach St. Louis has no ties to the program. That Munster went outside its own little world is the stunning part of this hire. -
If you’ve got 2 QBs, you don’t have a QB.
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Romison St. Louis Out at Elkhart
Bobref replied to Bobref's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
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Over/under on calls being overturned by replay: 2.5
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In short, no rules changes this year worth talking about. There is a new Point of Emphasis on illegal formations. Depending on the guidance we get from the IHSAA on exactly what they want enforced, that could get sticky. Probably won’t know until shortly before the in-person rules meetings held with the coaches during the Summer. https://www.nfhs.org/articles/home-team-uniform-requirements-clarified-in-high-school-football-rules/#:~:text=Language in the 2024 NFHS,that clearly contrasts with white.
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They’d have to use something else or, for example, 3 of Center Grove’s regular season games in the 2024 season would not count toward seeding, since they are out of state opponents. It would hardly be consistent for the IHSAA to open up their travel policy somewhat, as they did a couple of years ago, and then adopt a seeding formula that penalizes teams for playing out of state opponents.
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Really glad for Mongo, though bittersweet. Also glad for Hester, who clearly deserved it if any special teamer was ever going to get in.
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My post in the Travel Rule thread: I love it when one of our schools decides it wants to wear big boy pants all the time. St. Frances is going to be interesting. They were “only” 5-6 last season. But their schedule included heavyweights like Buford (GA), Chaminade (FL), Mater Dei (CA), East St. Louis, (IL), St. John Bosco (CA), IMG (FL). A little road trip to Indianapolis is nothing for those guys.
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New Travel Rule - Who Is Using It?
Bobref replied to Bobref's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I love it when one of our schools decides it wants to wear big boy pants all the time. St. Frances is going to be interesting. They were “only” 5-6 last season. But their schedule included heavyweights like Buford (GA), Chaminade (FL), Mater Dei (CA), East St. Louis, (IL), St. John Bosco (CA), IMG (FL). A little road trip to Indianapolis is nothing for those guys. -
In 40 seasons of officiating high school football in the northern part of the state, I had the pleasure of officiating Penn games many times. Coach Yeoman had many notable achievements on the field. But what stood out in my mind, what separated him from many other very successful coaches, was his class and sportsmanship. It didn’t matter what the scoreboard said, he was the same. Penn is so fortunate to have had him in a position to positively influence so many. A great coach … and a better man.
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If the Bears are even considering keeping Fields and trading down, keep in mind that the first 3 picks are likely to be QBs. If they’ve decided they’re sticking with Fields, they trade the #1 for Washington’s #2 plus. Then, they still don’t need a QB, so they can flip the #2 for the #3 with the Patriots, plus, and they can do the same with the #3 with anyone else. Or, they can keep the #3 and take Harrison, Jr. So, it’s not just a question of Caleb Williams vs. Fields, and the whole rookie contract thing. It’s Williams and his rookie contract, vs. Fields (who has 2 seasons left on his rookie deal) plus whatever they can get by flipping the picks, which would presumably include several projected starters who would also be on their rookie deals.
