BTF

I'd take Fort Wayne South Side over most inner city Indy teams, maybe by a couple of touchdowns. South Side football isn't bad, it just looks bad because they play in the SAC. I'm pretty sure Carroll beats Warren Central. I have Snider and North Side even with the Warriors (this year). Indy is four times the size of Fort Wayne, so the list of schools competing with Warren Central is small.

No, the arrogance isn't warranted. The large school divisions (6A and formerly 5A) have been ABSOLUTELY dominated by the 3 largest enrollment schools. Coincidence? Definitely no. Kudos to Center Grove for "debunking" that trend in recent years. Eric Moore is the real deal. For the most part, teams outside of the Indy area that are getting beaten by them are lower enrollment schools. Conclusion: The MIC contributed to what the HCC is today, and now the HCC is making them pay. "Competition breeds excellence." Indy suburban schools have either an enrollment advantage or an SES advantage over most of the schools they encounter outside of the Indy area. If I was forced to give an answer as to where the best football is played, I'd have to give Suburban Indy the edge. Good coaching + big enrollment + strong SES + strong competition = good luck to everyone else.

Forgot to mention I was using the Sagarin ratings as a basis for my argument that "inside the Indy donut" schools are struggling badly.

It's not pretend. Indy arrogance has been around quite awhile. It took years just to get anyone to acknowledge the enrollment advantage.

If suggesting that Carroll being one of the Top 3 teams in the state makes me arrogant, then yes, I'm arrogant. It's not just one win Temp, they've been proving themselves all season long. They beat Snider, North Side, and Penn. Beat Homestead by a wider margin than HSE did. Beat Penn by a wider margin than Cathedral did. Beat a very good Jefferson team on the road. Why is it arrogant suggesting Carroll is Top 3. I'm starting to wonder if you really do want a team up north to do well. You seem a bit disturbed by the idea now that it's happening in real time.

Maybe your best post yet Rodney.

Can't read the story and won't. It's subscription only. I won't support any newspaper that clearly leans one direction politically. No different than FW newspapers. Those running the newspapers aren't smart enough to understand 'don't mix politics with business.' I think I get your point by looking at the title of the link. In most cases, every team has a story, some more powerful than others. Elaborate please. Thanks

You and 75% of all the other posters are taking CG. Probably a smart pick. Damn, they're Center Grove. Sounds like an easy pick to me. I just find it hilarious that you guys continue to point out that football is "better" in Indy. The Indy burbs has some of the best football (with obvious advantages) in the state. Indy proper has some of the worst. It's a wash.

Completely? C'mon

Ask your boys from Indy why they keep bringing it up. So yes, I want to hear his answer.

Why do Indy schools dominate 6A in your opinion?

What exactly do you know about the rest of 5A?

Their home side seats 3500 and they routinely fill it up. Neon Nation (student section) is as strong as any I'm guessing. Yes, they'll bring a crowd with them.

In all fairness, Temptation has Carroll at #3 in his poll. I just took issue with FK's "but Carroll has a chance to join that discussion with a win next week." I figured they'd be allowed part of that conversation with a win over HSE. Anyways, I'll just roll with: The game will be played Friday night..........Bash Riprock Congrats to both Carroll and Center Grove on great seasons. Looking forward to a great match-up on Friday.............Coach Shanley

This isn't even about the predictions that CG will win by three touchdowns. I'm perfectly fine with predictions. But to say Carroll isn't Top 3 after beating the best team in the best conference?

If Carroll wins on Friday, can we dub them as the best team in the state? Or will they only have won because they didn't play the same rigorous schedule that the Indy schools play? I feel like this is heading toward 'our teams are beat up physically, and your team is fresh.'

lmao

Starting to sound like one of the guys Temp. Not the unbiased Indy poster I've been giving you credit for. It doesn't matter that Carroll crushed Penn or beat the #1 team in the state. Now they have to beat Center Grove to be considered Top 3. I'm not offended. I just like calling out Indy bullshit. Self-imposed warning point: 1

I give up. That's like me saying HSE would finish 4th in the SAC.

They did.

I can't imagine the IHSAA being so bad at business that they wouldn't allow walk in traffic at the gate.

I too think it's a little bizarre that the Jeff game keeps getting brought up. There is no such thing as a team at any level at any sport being at the top of their game every time they play.

You're probably right. It will be a neat experience for the Carroll players and coaches. Let's just hope they don't get blown out.

If you're going to continue bringing up the close game with Jeff and the fact that Jeff got clobbered by Cathedral, then it's only fair to bring up the fact that Carroll manhandled Penn whereas Cathedral struggled. Another example would be Center Grove's close call with Franklin Central in the sectionals. Sagarin has Jeff and FC neck and neck, with Jeff three places higher. You're better off just saying Center Grove is better "just because." There are no good examples. Temp is making the most sense in giving CG the benefit of the doubt based on 'been there done that.' What about HSE's last two victories? They beat very good teams in Fisher's and Westfield by 22 and 20 respectively. Brownsburg beat Fishers and Westfield by 13 and 17. Again............"CG is better than Carroll just because," has as much merit as anything that I've heard or read. My prediction: Center Grove. Just because they are Center Grove.

No path at all?