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He had an offer from Iowa before last night. Rumor was that there were some colleges at the game scouting. So who knows after last nights performance. It was impressive to say the least. It's hard to replace a kid like Veezy, but I'm not sure the impact of him leaving was as big as some thought it might.
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You weren't there, take your snide emojis elsewhere.
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Ben Davis still beat Moeller by two touchdowns and was pretty competitive against one of the top teams in the nation. Maybe the Giants weren't ready for the truck that was about to hit them last night? I think too many people were looking at Warren Central as a team that had two losses and forgetting that they are big, athletic, and getting better as the season moves along. The Giants are legitimate Top 3 in my opinion. I've been saying this about Carmel for years. They should be Top 3 every year and occupy 40 percent of the large division state titles.
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The winner of Sectional 19 will be someone from NE8.
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Warren Central has both size and athletes. That's a dangerous combination.
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Not sure what happened in the Lawrence Central/Pike game, but he sure pegged the other four. He's the only one who didn't have BD in a route.
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I was referring to what the defense actually gave up, not what the team as a whole gave up. Carroll gave up 4 pick-6's to HSE and Snider (two each.)
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Here come the Saints! Sectional 19: New Haven, Leo, East Noble, Columbia City.........now Dwenger.
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Carroll's the real deal again this year and have another shot at Lucas Oil. Why? Because defense wins championships........ and having a D1 Power Five recruit at QB doesn't hurt. Not many gave them a chance to beat Snider in a game that could have gone either way. Let's recap what this defense has done this year. Held HSE to 14 points Held Warren Central to 14 points Held Snider to 13 points No matter how you slice it, that's pretty impressive. I'm not dubbing them the favorite to come out of the North, but they'll take on all comers and give them a run for their money.
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Takeaways: The two pick-6's were the difference. Carroll's defense it good. Refs let Carroll get away with SEVERAL holding calls. Two good teams. Two equal teams. Both have a shot at Lucas Oil. Nice crowd. Estimate: 6000
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Spuller Stadium (Northrop/Snider)
BTF replied to BTF's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
It's fascinating that the old brick structures are never mentioned as some of the best facilities in the state. They might be outdated from a football point of view. The locker rooms are smaller I'm presuming. But from a fans perspective, Spuller offers concessions and bathrooms at the 50 yard line on both sides. Not sure that's very common, even with the newer stadiums. -
Spuller Stadium (Northrop/Snider)
BTF replied to BTF's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
They don't build concrete structures like they used to. That would be a hefty price tag. I think Carmel still has one. You're actually pretty lucky if you're the visitor at Spuller stadium. The visitors side faces the east, which means they are protected from inclimate coming from the west. There's a lot of concrete over there built in a hill. Not sure what Blackhawk pays. Maybe they split the gate with FWCS? -
Why No Homefield Advantage in Indiana in 2023?
BTF replied to hhpatriot04's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Good work, but using Sagarin has it's drawbacks. Snider was obliterated in the ranking for not running up the score on their last opponent. It does tend to work itself out come playoff time though. I have a hard time thinking .25 is enough for the home team. I think it should be 3. -
For those who are wondering, Snider has played at Spuller Stadium on Northrop's campus for five decades. Snider has a small stadium that is used for JV, Freshman, and current home to Blackhawk Christian's new football program.
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Good quarterbacks have roasted Snider in the past. We'll have to wait and see if the DB's are up to the task.
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I'm on the outside looking in on this one, so everything is just hearsay. But it does throw up somewhat of a red flag. Hopefully Yuccaguy is right and there's some sort of a plan for Snider.
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Snider wins if they keep they run/pass ratio at 4/1. Too many drives stall as a result of unsuccessful pass plays. "One of four things can happen when you throw the ball, and three of them are bad." Vince Lombardi
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I think they fit in nicely with Sectional 19. I've got East Noble, New Haven, and Leo as the teams to beat, but Dwenger could pull off an upset.
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Bonecrusher gave a pretty good explanation. It's used for the Freshman and JV home games. It's also the current home to Blackhawk Christian's new football program. Blackhawk sits inside the Snider school district about 6 or 7 minutes away. When FWCS's built Northrop and Wayne High School's back in the late 60's, they built two very nice duplicate stadiums on the campuses. Both stadiums were meant to be shared. Northrop and Snider. Wayne and South Side. South Side had a nice stadium built for them, I want to say 25 years ago, when they underwent a multi million dollar upgrade. So that leaves Snider, the highest income generating athletic producer in Fort Wayne, as the only school in the city without their own stadium. There's actually a very large piece of property across the street from Snider that is owned by FWCS. I don't see any reason why they couldn't build a stadium there. I'm not sure it really matters. Snider has gotten on a bus for their home football games for over five decades, so it's really just another day at the office for them. Plus they draw a good crowd at those games, so I don't know what incentive FWCS has to give Snider their own stadium. But they did give one to South Side, a school that draws about 1/20th the crowd that Snider draws, so I guess we'll just see what the future holds.
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I could be off base here. Maybe they do keep tabs on their respective class on a weekly basis. They have a lot of responsibility in knowing the team on their schedule for that week. Regardless.................. Class 4A must be stocked. East Noble, Leo, and New Haven are all dangerous football teams.
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Leo doesn't even garner one vote in 4A? Columbia City over New Haven and East Noble? Should we even trust a coaches poll? How is a coach even qualified to come up with a Top 10? Aren't they too ultra focused on their own teams to worry about who's Top 10 and who isn't?
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I was thinking you'd have to go back a very long time to find two Fort Wayne teams that were widely accepted as Top 10 regardless of class squaring off with one another. One might argue that Snider and Dwenger 2015 may have both been Top Ten. If I remember correctly, that wasn't one of 6A's stronger years. Outside of that you may have to back to the early 2000's with Snider and Homestead. Late 90's with Snider and Homestead. Late 80's with Snider and North Side. Both Snider and Dwenger have had several Top 10 seasons, but not very often in the same year. Friday night will be a hell of an atmosphere. I'd estimate 6000 fans and two of the best student sections in the state.
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I guess it depends on what the criteria is for best game in the state. I'm not sure what was going on last year the week Snider played North Side in sectionals, but that game drew about 6000 fans. Homestead vs Dwenger in 2020, again, not sure what else was going on that week. You make a good point though, you'd have to go back a few more years to find a game that was this big. Snider/Dwenger in 2015 was pretty big. Dwenger won 2017 enroute to a state title. Snider got one too.
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I think Carroll is being underestimated, but Snider does have motivation. A Carroll win means the conference bell will be painted blue and white for the third year in a row. It also means Carroll is the official kingpin of the SAC.
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I haven't seen Carroll play yet this season, so I'll have to defer to Sagarin who has Carroll as a 9 point favorite. Chargers by 3 Concordia showed signs of life last week, but Luers is better. Third win in a row for the Knights. Luers by 14 Nothing indicates that Northrop will keep this one close. North Side by 28 Wayne isn't as good as I thought they'd be and South Side has shown on occasion that they're capable of hitting back. Wayne by 21 Not sure what happened against Noblesville, but Homestead isn't looking too bad. Spartans by 14
