Lysander

East Central 21 Silver Creek 0 5:40 left in 3rd

East Central 14 Silver Creek 0 Under 8:00 in 2nd Q

Wow! Major upset.

I’m obviously a Chatard fan.....and the kids have played really well, generally, this year, but it’s not last year’s team (at least, not yet) which could be pretty dominating. I have to think they will, once again, simply be happy to survive the nightmare that is Sectional 28 again. My general opinion (just an opinion) is that 3A at the upper end is down a little bit this season as compared to the last 3 years and that there are several teams out there that might surprise everyone. I do find it really interesting to see just how strong Marian is this year. I came away with the impression last year that they were graduating a LOT of talent. It doesn’t look as if they’ve missed a beat.

Its a running joke here...the poll is fine. I appreciate what you are doing.

“This poll is a complete joke”

I would be truly interested in any challenge to DJ’s...err....Phil Lee’s observations that anyone might be able to specifically document. Even more so, I’d be interested as to any of those cases that exceeded a flu, at worst, or a common cold. In the case of some here, I’d expect some REALLY hard documentation....since some seem to revel in COVID....and the subsequent politics unfortunately surrounding it.

I find it offensive that you are referring to me indirectly as an “idiot”. I’m a “moron”. Only an idiot would mistake me for an idiot.

And all of them are under a much more controlled environment than they would be outside of the sports setting.

Honest question, do you think that those kids under some sort of sports/team discipline to limit their exposure opportunities or those kids under no discipline at all as regards exposing themselves to COVID are more likely to catch and spread COVID? I’d be willing to bet that kids under team discipline have actually limited the spread versus their non-sports contemporaries. My point being that proceeding with the season actually decreases the risk.

Nothing wrong with Sagarin, MaxPreps, etc., etc. You simply can’t apply analytics to closed conferences because there aren’t any links to the remaining 310 teams in the state. It baffles me that folks can’t wrap their head around this. This year, the SIAC also became a closed conference (along with the SAC). Now you have 20 teams (@6.25% of the HS teams playing football) from 2 conferences from opposite corners of the State that you really can’t evaluate THROUGH ANY ANALYTICAL APPROACH until post-season play begins. The problem isn’t with Sagarin, MaxPreps, etc.

Yeah, I had written that I always enjoyed his wine coolers (if that is what they were - they were a malt beverage) but I thought I was afraid of getting even more obscure - so I edited it out.

Yeah, I always thought Zemo was one of Captain America’s most puzzling adversaries.

Bedford North Lawrence cancels postseason. http://www.wbiw.com/2020/10/21/bnl-cancels-remainder-of-season-following-virus-cases/?fbclid=IwAR03IvLSgA-57gga9M_V_TbT6mFNqkmPk8IaM-vJeDFngSuX5DL96co9h0 https://twitter.com/BNLAthletics/status/1318977321265733634?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^embeddedtimeline|twterm^profile%3ABNLAthletics|twcon^timelinechrome&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nlcs.k12.in.us%2FPage%2F1662

Yep. I honestly expect them to garner those 2 points this year. They have to be one of the favorites coming out of the South to show up at LOS. I, admittedly, have some personal attachment to seeing either GS or Lawrenceburg coming out of the South but it’s going to be fun to watch the 3A South playoffs unfold....much like 4A.

No doubt that, but it’s nice to see Fisher and his kids do well and get some acclaim. Over the years, I’ve felt they’ve been oft-overlooked. As to a Roncalli, they have come from a fairly dark place both institutionally and organizationally in a very short time and I certainly wouldn’t want to be playing them at this point. I, personally, still have some deep issue as to how the school and the Archdiocese have chose to handle themselves this last year (and, likely, going forward) but that doesn’t diminish what Rodenberg and his kids and coaches have done these past few months. They could very well end up hoisting blue this year. That said, I’m a fan of both Kirschner (and even more so of Mike Gillin and Bob Denton at Mooresville) and would be happy for any one of several 4A teams to come out of the South (including East Central who was a rival in my HS days). If I have any issue at all with Mt. Vernon, as a poor ol’ country kid from SE Indiana, it’s the whole “Geist” component (HSE “light”)...although I, admittedly, live there these days. That said, Mike Kirschner is a totally class guy and a heckuva coach. 4A is going to be really fun to watch this year.

DT claiming hiatus is simply attention calling. All said, I like him posting The whole hiatus “thing” is juvenile....excepting we live in a juvenile world. He posts as he likes....despite the hiatus....even now we are dancing to his tune.

DT - a mutual friend who was sitting in the stands (and no longer participates on the GID) has asked me to remind you that “maybe it was CG that almost gift-wrapped the game to Cathedral. The Irish had 183 yards of total offense with one scoring drive. Their other score was a gimme pick 6.” To paraphrase, he thinks you had somewhat selective memory and, as most always, he and his wife were sitting in the stands. He also commented that it was a classic hard-hitting game. Don’t kill the messenger. Or do....I’m ambivalent.

Congrats to: 5A Whiteland (Darrin Fisher) who ended the season as #2 in 5A per Sagarin. My only thoughts are: (a) job well done; (b) sucks to be South in 5A with Cathedral (otherwise a likely Lucas Oil trip) and (c) Jet Sweep, Jet Sweep, Jet Sweep. 4A Roncalli (John Rodenberg) who ended the season as #2 in 4A per Sagarin. Between their coach (who has some modest experience with parochials) and their constant team improvement, I consider them the favorite to represent the South at LOS. In any event, I expect the 4A South Semi-State to be the State Championship....don’t let me down. 3A Mishawaka Marian (Mike Davidson) who ended the season as #2 in 3A per Sagarin. They compiled an undefeated season (7-0) against some of the best teams (All Classes) that North Central Indiana has to offer (Mishawaka, Penn.....freaking PENN!!!). It’s hard to be any more dominant as a 3A team (add that one of your late 70s State Championship team’s running backs stood for me post Butler U. in my wedding back in those long gone days...love the Knights...love Bill Baker). I invite anyone else to join in....but I thought these teams needed to be called out.

I LOVED those Reitz posters back then. Reitz was an absolutely legitimate Top 10 All Classes team....they just had to get past Cathedral in the South - who was Top 10 All Classes as well. The 4A State Championship was won in the South those days when 4A used to be the best class pound for pound in the state...followed closely by 2A (as ultimately evidenced by 4A’s almost total domination of the new 5A Class after the “Success Factor”) I admit to having enjoyed “poking” them occasionally but I was always cheering for them (though my guess is that they never realized it). Miss those days.

Just making a general observation about the SIAC folks in general (Memorial more specifically) being less than optimistic as to their team’s prospects in recent years despite still taking hardware home at seasons end. I recall when Reitz was on that roll from 2007-10 and were legitimately a Top 10 team All Classes some of that time and they had that fierce rivalry with Cathedral. If you even questioned Reitz’ superiority back then a Panther with dueling pistols was at your doorstep. Apparently a league memo was issued sometime in the last 5 years. These past few years the general SIAC demeanor is “Well......we just hope to win that first Sectional game”, “We’ve got little chance this week”, and, finally, on the doorstep of LOS, “We’re just lucky to be here”. I guess that’s why I chuckle when I hear the word “Darkhorse” referenced to playoff caliber SIAC teams - especially undefeated ones.

I vaguely seem to recall another SIAC “Darkhorse” that managed that gauntlet quite nicely last year.....all the way to blue. In conjunction with some of the best pregame “Lou Holtz” remarks in the history of the GID.

It’s impossible to apply analytics to a closed conference until its not “closed” which doesn’t happen until playoffs. As to how long it takes? I have no idea. I’m just a monkey with a keyboard trying to do the complete works Shakespeare. It’s hit and miss.

You don’t steamroll the SIAC as a 4A team then come out of it as a “Darkhorse”. Closed conference or not, the outright winner of the SIAC (particularly if they are 4A or smaller) has to be looked upon as one of the favorites coming out of the South....and the South, by most all evidence, will produce the State Champion this year.

It should.....and fast. I think we all know that both Dwenger and Evansville Central are far from their current No. 20 Sagarin Rating in their respective classes....more like Top 5 in each (I could see Central steamrolling 4A). The weird thing is that, at times, SAC statewide rankings shot high up the charts but the SIAC’s never did. Either way, both conference’s teams rankings are going to be jumping all over the place as of early Saturday AM. I think they will stabilize pretty quickly. Have I mentioned, as a fan, how much I hate closed conferences?