Footballking16

Obviously an opinion, but if Crown Point played a predominantly 6A Indy area schedule like the rest of the top teams in 6A, their record would reflect as such. And that record wouldn't justify a #2 ranking and all honesty likely wouldn't crack the top 2. But then again, there is absolutely zero way to quantify this hypothetical is simply why I said it is of "my belief".

My belief that there are 6-8 6A teams in Central Indiana better than Crown Point, 3 or 4 of them who would all win going away.

I personally wouldn't take a knee in a game unless unless it was literally to effectively end the game ie game ending first down with say 2:30 left and the opposing team has no timeouts. But if 3rd and 4th stringers are in there, they are playing football until the clock reads 0:00.

LCC taking a knee in the middle of the second quarter would have been far more humiliating. Notice how you're the only one who remembers the time, date, and score? I will guarantee you the sun still came up the next day for those kids at Clinton Prairie.

There's not many "people" who think this, there's really one person driving this narrative and that person is Muda. And what's worse is that he thinks this should happen anytime the deficit threshold crosses 35 points. I've seen plenty of games where the score is 35-0 at the end of the 1st quarter/early 2nd quarter. Imagine practicing all week (regardless of what side of the ball you're on) and having the other team literally not play football for the remaining 2+ quarters. I'd be far more embarrassed as a player, coach, fan of a losing if a team took a knee for 2+ quarters than losing in blowout fashion, even if we lost 100-0.

Clock wouldn't stop on an incompletion (in the 2nd half) in a game where one team was up by 35+ points due to a mandated running clock. I don't have an issue with backups/JV running their offense in a blowout so long as they aren't intentional running up the score. You want to run a slant or a 5 yard out to get your backup QB some reps by all means do it, it's the other teams job to stop it. Now running a flea flicker or double reverse up 49 in the 4th quarter regardless of who you have in the game is a no-no, but again that's common sense and happens so infrequently that it doesn't warrant discussion on a thread like this.

I'm not sure I'd go that far. Based on what exactly?

Good point. I just know they aren't the second best team in 6A.

Don't make him think too much. Muda's mental gymnastics hurt my brain from time to time.

Sportsmanship lol. God forbid actual football is played....during a football game. I'd rather they just call the game at a 35 point deficit rather than watching a team take knees for two straight quarters and wasting everybody's time. Only if refunds are issued of course.

You must be new here? He's advocated for the last 15 years that teams take knees for 3 straight plays and punt for the remainder of the game once the 35 point threshold is crossed.

They are definitely on the up and up and the best team in the northern portion of the state. They aren't the 2nd best team in 6A though, not even close.

Tech has a home game this Friday so it's a moot point, but otherwise agree. Tech is a great venue.

But has anyone confirmed that the ruling on the field was a "muff" due to the belief the ball hit the punt returner's leg/foot up the field around the 15 yard line rather than a misapplication of the the rule when Westfield touched the ball trying to prevent a touchback that ultimately hit a Center Grove player and subsequently ruled a fumble recovery at the goal line?

Not sure collectively but do know they have an Illinois commit at DT who started last year and another returning starter at DE who lead the team in sacks last year. And obviously they have ND commit Mark Zackery in the secondary who is widely considered to be the best player in the state. But I also think it's fair to say they missed Nylan Brown out there a lot.

Mixed bag after watching Ben Davis Friday night. Their offense didn't look that bad despite not scoring a single point. QB has a very good arm and for the most part played very well. A couple fluky turnovers and some costly penalties were some real drive killers. They ended up throwing a ton, likely out of necessity due to the score, but they never really attempted to establish a run game which I thought was odd given it was a close game through most the first half. But I was thoroughly unimpressed with their defense which I figured would have been their strong suit. They were bullied up front by a young (and hurt) Cathedral offensive line. And that's with Cathedral committing to the run all night due to an inexperienced QB who wasn't a threat to drive the ball down the field. All in all they will most likely be fine going forward.

Reactions tell it all. 1. CG punt returner doesn’t flinch. Doesn’t even attempt to go back and retrieve the ball. If he thought for a second it touched him, his reaction would have been entirely different. 2. #27 for Westfield attempts to save the ball from going into the end zone rather than trying to recover a live ball. 3. There’s 6 Westfield players all pointing at #14 in red (who wasn’t the punt returner) indicating he was the person to touch the ball making the ball live.

He is talking about the same play. He’s saying the official ruled the ball hit the CG punt returner on the initial bounce making it a live ball right there…which would also be incorrect as the ball didn’t come close to touching him. The reaction by both teams confirm this.

The ball didn’t come close to hitting the punt returner’s foot/leg on the initial bounce although if I had blown a call that egregious with the hindsight of video replay that’s what I would have gone with while talking to a former colleague. Much easier to justify a judgement call than a complete misapplication of the rule (which is what I believe honestly happened). Either way, that should have been CG’s ball at the 1-2 yard line at the very worst case and still not so sure the punt didn’t break the plane of the end zone which would result in a touchback.

You aren’t blind, you just aren’t biased towards officiating. It was a blown call that deserves to be called out. That ball hit at the 16 yard line and was rolling aggressively towards the end zone until it was thrown back by the Westfield gunner to prevent a touchback.

Must be giving out too many scholarships 🙄

I’m talking about the play in the Center Grove/Westfield game where the is video linked above.

Huh? #27 in white very clearly touches the ball first.

How did they get that wrong? That’s inexcusable.

Neighborhood ordinance is the driving factor but parking would be an utter disaster.