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Likewise nice to see familiar names still keeping up with the goings on of ihsaa football. Me , i took up hiking been hitting all the local state and federal forests trails in a 50-100 mile radius (and there are a lot in south central indiana) . A break from politics/covid/riots/ and my own personal misfortunes this year. And the panthers had a ho hum season in moriarity's retirement season. I like Gabe Johnson but im not sure how he will fare here. Moriarity had a longstanding familiarity of bhss since his playing days at martinsville were near the time period that saw the panthers go 60-0 in a 6 year period he knew the ins and outs of the program and how to coach them here. Even after the districts changed here in 2000-2010 that saw long time panther communities re routed to bhsn mo still came here and had a successful run. Now i feel like south will drift back down into the kirk kennedy / drew wood era's unless gabe johnson is as good a coach as mo which could work out but not extremely likely. Hadn't thought much of H.S. football but i did think about the ci pickem i ran for the last several seasons just wasnt up to it this year. Good luck to you all . Probably my only log in till next year...... P.S. did 'The Dude' ever come back? The guy siac guy that had the 812 poll every year?

My only log in this entire season. Congrats Castle on defeating the bhss panthers it had been a few years since they knocked off the panthers. Only reason i logged in and it really wouldn't have mattered this year because BHSS HC is in his first year and the panthers were not very strong at the skill positions on offense. That being said im definately disappointed in the fact that every season no matter what bhss has had to drive to newburgh for the tournament game vs castle 5 times now (1983, 2015, 2016,2019,2020) they have played in the tournament and every game was played at castle . The teams have only met once in reg season and that was at bhss . Somehow bhss won 3 of those 5 road tournament games at castle , but that is a long long drive and certainly unfair for every game to have been played at castle . Seeding the brackets could be a solution most years . Seeding isnt perfect as we know but most years i believe the correct seed would prevail. Either way good luck to the knights im a fan of bhss and whoever is playing bhsn or martinsville. And next week castle has bhsn hope they(Castle) can get the W. Good luck ....

Article did not mention whether he was still going to be an employee at bhss. The way i read the article the feeling i had afterwards was that he was retiring from the mccsc as well as hc of the bhss panthers.

https://www.hoosiertimes.com/herald_times_online/sports/high_school/bloomington_north/south-football-coach-moriarity-announces-retirement/article_9f2535fe-1aec-11ea-8e88-c32014fe8d77.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share via @theheraldtimes

Isnt larry central ranked number 1 in basketball first weekly rankings?

Nice to see some Positive vibes for the underdogs in the state title game. Part of me thinks that valpo may suprise as well . But i thought Center Grove and Cathedral would have done the same vs new pal. I think the big thing about new pal's total team is that it isn't just Charlie Spegal or their d lineman that is headed to msu, i believe that almost every player out there is stronger than the average player that are opponents in some way and they use their total team strengths very well. Hope both teams leave it all on the field and see where the chips fall.

Sagarin wise it looks like Valpo is roughly one ratings point below cathedral. Cathedral had their chances vs new pal. I picked new pal to win this on 38-13. More i think of it i believe it may be closer but just not sure valpo can score..... Maybe revise my score to 30-16 NP.

Guess all i needed to say was the 4th best team in the hhc is 11 sagarin ratings points below bhss. I realize sagarin is not always correct and New Pal knows football obviously. Anyways congrats to the dragons.

Sagarin has bhss ranked the third best team in the hhc ratings wise trailing delta by three ratings points. Bhss at times played well vs new pal and their running game. Just saw the stats and edited this post. 0 Passing yards for NP. The running game was clicking so no need to throw it i guess, 0-2 passing . Spegal broke the big plays like he does vs any team, sort of snowballed from there . But I highly doubt over the course of a regular season schedule that bhss is losing to many teams in that conference. The panthers didnt look good last night for sure, i think they spent what they had this season just winning a regional . Didn't bring much to the table vs NP. . Outbalanced Outmanned Outeverythinged pretty much. Bottom half of the hhc probably not.

Who knows? I think since new pal beat cg like they did then you have to go with new pal until someone else proves otherwise. Np 38 Valpo 13

I should have been more descriptive. I was talking about pre playoff era or close to that time period when the playoff started. I remember reading a postgame article from the bloomington paper from the 60's or so saying almost the same thing i said about how schools up north claim they play the toughest brand of football. Also i should have mentioned i was mainly talking about big school football. Which is true . Big school football south of columbus is for the most part non existent

Speaking of valpo. I remember the days when folks from northern indiana thought that they played the toughest football in the state. "the region" they would say.. .. ... ... Not much doing up north nowadays. Not much can be said of southern indiana either at least south of Columbus anyways.

Could is the keyword. Bloomington all star team would have two teams that won a combined 15 games. An d obviously the two combined schools would be near 3500 students. Would they ? I think they probably would but i think it would be a lot closer than 45-0 I think we would see a score within single digits. . Same could be said of Columbus a columbus all star team may actually beat New Pal. I agree this south team was the beneficiary of a hall of fame coach and a sub par south regional. But New Pal will be the 5 a champ so i have to give them their due. South did well at times against their run. But Speagal busted the big plays on them like he does everyone.............

Well that team is as advertised.

I agree , funny thing is im sure center grove and cathedral had legit d lines too. Will be a battle . Perfection is hard to attain. New pal may blunder let's hope

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Bhss defensive strengths are it's rushing defense. Obviously that is good considering we have to face the all time leading state rusher. Watching new pals games that are on youtube they don't have many weaknesses. Souths d line has some MIC sized kids on it but so did cathedral and obviously center grove. I'm just amazed at how new pal plays the game . They truly are a well oiled machine. Make a mistake here and there and you will get burned, then it is like a snowball rolling downhill the points just keep piling up. When it comes down to it i keep saying it but im not sure south has the commitment to football that new pal does. Every since mo left south in 2002 souths basketball program stole the show, would have been nice to have seen this match-up during a different south football era. All you can do is believe your going to win and go up there and play the game which im sure coach mo and the staff will have the team ready. Whew NP may be one of the best teams in the midwest!

Muledriver Correct-3, 4,1,3,2,3,4,3,3,4,2,1 Wrong-3,2,2,1,2,1,0,1,1,2,0,0 LcBears04 Correct-4,4,2,3,2,3,2,3,3,5,2,1 Wrong-2,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,0,0 Temptation Correct-4 Wrong-2 captainobvious Correct-4,4,1,2,2,3,2,3,4,4,0 Wrong-2,2,2,2,2,1,2,1,0,2,2 gonzoron Correct-4,4,1,2,3,3,3,3,4,2 Wrong-2,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,2,0 ptr Correct-6,4,1,21,4,2,4,3,4,2,1 Wrong-0,2,2,2,3,0,2,0,1,2,0,0 WCGrad92 Correct-2 Wrong-4 FormerFalcon Correct 4 Wrong 2 Well here we are again. BHSS @ New Palestine. As a south fan i expect nothing less than for our program to believe they are going to win each weeks games. We should do just that this week and go to new pal and leave it all on the field. A win is unlikely but you have to give it your best shot. That being said im not sure south has played a team this good since the 1990s or the center grove team in 2008 .

I say it every year. Sometimes early season games are not indicstive of post season maturity. My examples were from bhss losing to martinsville week 2 in 2013 and 2018 by a large margin. Come playoff time bhss knocked martinsville out each season. Coach moriarity and coach moore say it all the time. We want to play out best football come playoff time. Not sure why very few people will allow the thought process to enter their minds that centergrove losing to new pal early in the season could possibly be reversed come playoff time. I am not saying that the scenario of 2013 and 2018 bhss/martinsville is the same as new pal/center grove . I do believe that that scenario is even more likely with new pal/center grove given the strength of center grove schedule. CG has 2500 students they face the likes of carmel ben davis Warren pike and basically the biggest schools in Indiana as well as cathedral during the regular season . Center grove I believe doesn't put a whole lot of stress on regular season schedule they are surviving it in my opinion so they can be healthy and prepared for the playoffs. Too many things that I personally am not familiar with to say whether or not new pal would win 6a. I would have to say they would not in my opinion. I think they possibly could win a few games along the way but when your up against those big schools for a whole tourney run I just think new pal would get worn down and injured . Depth would be their demise. But I do think they would be close to winning it all in 6a this year , again I'm not familiar with all the factors at play. Virtually do not know anything about new pal except their coaches name and a couple players names. Obviously a great team tho.

Week 2 for bhss was clearly not very. meaningful to bhss. The way the arties reacted they seemed to have won their super bowl. 2018 bhss lost to the arties in reg season handily same thing in 2013 the arties blew the panthers out week 2 come sectional time in both 2013 and 2018 the panthers ended the arties season. Great win week 2 for the ville but south seems to be prepping for the tourney working out the kinks in the regular season. However the panthers are up against it this week for sure

You know this game is similar to the miracle in paradise game in one aspect. In 83 castle was on a 20 some odd game winning streak and nationally ranked and defending champs. However the south team In 83 came into that game undefeated. Miracle in New Palestine sounds good tho . . . . . . .. .. 😃

Sort of telling here we are on a football thread talking about our basketball team. Going to be rough. Few years back castle was mauled at new pal then the two years in a row over cg seems like the only teams to hang with the dragons were c east and snider and zionsville during their down year . Just insane what they have been able to do.

Very few. Maybe 2 or 3 at the most Then if they make it to semi state or state I like to try and go regionals at Seymour are always nice their gym is great

Is there a preseason ranking? South Culver should be interesting with Galloway and leal both signed to iu .

Agreed