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Thanks. But has Martinsville benefitted from I69 more or less than Gibson Southern has benefitted from Toyota? Put it in terms we understand...

Martinsville... What type of offense do they run? Some conference guys get in here.

Anyways, hopefully Roncalli and Heritage Hills take care of business, so the Patriots can try to extend their unbeaten streak against the Rebels/Royals (changelings Benedict Arnolds). This would replace the 1999 HH-Roncalli matchup that never happened. Jett's father was a senior on that team but was hamstrung against Mount Vernon (Posey) in the sectional final. Bring back the bone!

Best wishes to Roncalli DC Alex Bettag. It would be interesting to see him be responsible for game planning against the HH offense. HH ran a pro/Wishbone scheme when he played at HH, so no inside knowledge. Roncalli got a jewel of a coach and man in Coach Bettag.

HH dropped massively following the Jasper win and Gibson Southern slipping past Mater Dei. I expect the Martinsville game should give them a boost in the computer polls because of SoS. I think they are about a touchdown stronger than their current ranking, but what do I know from Boston?

You'd need four locker rooms. I don't think teams could reliably share locker rooms given that time crunch. Does Ohio have double headers?

Per Sagarin ratings: Tournament Predictions Quarter-Finals 2025 Hobart is a 5.0-point favorite vs. 2025 SB St. Joseph (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Hobart 59.48%, 2025 SB St. Joseph 40.52%. 2025 FW Dwenger is a 29.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Lebanon (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 FW Dwenger 90.59%, 2025 Lebanon 9.41%. 2025 Indy Roncalli is a 9.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Yorktown (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Indy Roncalli 66.61%, 2025 Yorktown 33.39%. 2025 Heritage Hills is a 15.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Martinsville (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Heritage Hills 76.67%, 2025 Martinsville 23.33%. Potential Semi-Finals Top Bracket (Winner 1/2 vs. Winner 3/4) 2025 FW Dwenger is a 8.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Hobart (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 FW Dwenger 65.76%, 2025 Hobart 34.24%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 54.11%) 2025 Hobart is a 21.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Lebanon (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Hobart 83.37%, 2025 Lebanon 16.63%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 5.57%) 2025 FW Dwenger is a 13.5-point favorite vs. 2025 SB St. Joseph (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 FW Dwenger 73.81%, 2025 SB St. Joseph 26.19%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 36.56%) 2025 SB St. Joseph is a 16.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Lebanon (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 SB St. Joseph 77.35%, 2025 Lebanon 22.65%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 3.76%) Bottom Bracket (Winner 5/6 vs. Winner 7/8) 2025 Yorktown is a 20.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Martinsville (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Yorktown 82.27%, 2025 Martinsville 17.73%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 7.99%) 2025 Yorktown is a 4.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Heritage Hills (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Yorktown 58.55%, 2025 Heritage Hills 41.45%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 25.81%) 2025 Indy Roncalli is a 28.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Martinsville (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Indy Roncalli 89.91%, 2025 Martinsville 10.09%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 15.66%) 2025 Indy Roncalli is a 13.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Heritage Hills (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Indy Roncalli 73.81%, 2025 Heritage Hills 26.19%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 50.54%) Overall Tournament Win Probability 2025 Hobart: 8.41% 2025 SB St. Joseph: 3.51% 2025 FW Dwenger: 31.80% 2025 Lebanon: 0.19% 2025 Yorktown: 11.11% 2025 Indy Roncalli: 34.16% 2025 Martinsville: 0.59% 2025 Heritage Hills: 10.24%

WAXL said it's at Martinsville, probably Friday night

I don't think they are going to come out in Wishbone. But there are looks which I think they have and they haven't shown them yet. Gotta keep something up your sleeve I guess.

I'm most interested to see HH open up the playbook as they advance. I think there's about one third of the offense that hasn't been revealed. Now, those plays might still have to go through Jett, but let's see!

Crickets

Also, this is a warning for the thread to stay focused on this year's football. We are still in season, so let's keep convos centered on the young men who will be ending their high school careers over the next few weeks.

To be fair, my understanding is that he didn't do it on purpose. Besides, he was busy deciding if the first or second back through the hole would get the ball.

Sagarin predictions: 2025 Gibson Southern is a 17.0-point favorite at 2025 Vincennes with a 1.1-point HFA. Win probability: 2025 Gibson Southern 78.66%, 2025 Vincennes 21.34%. --- 2025 Southridge is a 9.5-point favorite hosting 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) with a 1.1-point HFA. Win probability: 2025 Southridge 67.46%, 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) 32.54%. --- 2025 Ev. Mater Dei is a 25.0-point favorite at 2025 Princeton with a 1.1-point HFA. Win probability: 2025 Ev. Mater Dei 87.2%, 2025 Princeton 12.8%.

It's allowed.

The Predictor Tool could help you quickly get the point differentials.

42-0. Never forget! Yeah, apparently Chatard has someone responsible for spying opponents' cleat length during pregame. Despite us opening our cafeteria to them so they could take Communion. Oh the humanity.

There are some pretty interesting predictions between the top teams in 4A this year compared to the top teams last year. I'll leave it at that. Played there once. We committed seven turnovers, then we petitioned the IHSAA to play in Indy for the rest of time.

Sagarin says... 2025 Heritage Hills is a 30.0-point favorite at 2025 Boonville with a 1.0-point HFA. Win probability: 2025 Heritage Hills 90.91%, 2025 Boonville 9.09%. 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) is a 8.0-point favorite hosting 2025 North Posey with a 1.0-point HFA. Win probability: 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) 64.89%, 2025 North Posey 35.11%. 2025 Gibson Southern is a 44.5-point favorite hosting 2025 Princeton with a 1.0-point HFA. Win probability: 2025 Gibson Southern 96.82%, 2025 Princeton 3.18%. 2025 Southridge is a 48.5-point favorite at 2025 Forest Park with a 1.0-point HFA. Win probability: 2025 Southridge 97.64%, 2025 Forest Park 2.36%. 2025 Switzerland Co. is a 7.0-point favorite at 2025 Tecumseh with a 1.0-point HFA. Win probability: 2025 Switzerland Co. 63.12%, 2025 Tecumseh 36.88%. 2025 Tell City is a 7.5-point favorite at 2025 South Spencer with a 1.0-point HFA. Win probability: 2025 Tell City 64.01%, 2025 South Spencer 35.99%. 2025 Washington is a 34.5-point favorite at 2025 Pike Central with a 1.0-point HFA. Win probability: 2025 Washington 93.39%, 2025 Pike Central 6.61%.

Would Heritage Hills have been in that sectional were the they still in 3A?

(Using Sagarin ratings) Tournament Predictions Quarter-Finals 2025 Ev. Memorial advances on a bye. 2025 Gibson Southern is a 19.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Vincennes (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Gibson Southern 81.13%, 2025 Vincennes 18.87%. 2025 Southridge is a 12.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Southridge 71.53%, 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) 28.47%. 2025 Ev. Mater Dei is a 26.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Princeton (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Mater Dei 88.03%, 2025 Princeton 11.97%. Potential Semi-Finals Top Bracket (Winner 1/2 vs. Winner 3/4) 2025 Gibson Southern is a 5.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Memorial (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Gibson Southern 60.4%, 2025 Ev. Memorial 39.6%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 81.13%) 2025 Ev. Memorial is a 13.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Vincennes (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Memorial 73.81%, 2025 Vincennes 26.19%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 18.87%) Bottom Bracket (Winner 5/6 vs. Winner 7/8) 2025 Ev. Mater Dei is a 12.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Mater Dei 71.53%, 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) 28.47%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 24.82%) 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) is a 14.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Princeton (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) 74.55%, 2025 Princeton 25.45%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 3.42%) 2025 Ev. Mater Dei vs. 2025 Southridge is predicted as a DRAW (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Mater Dei 50%, 2025 Southridge 50%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 63.08%) 2025 Southridge is a 26.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Princeton (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Southridge 88.03%, 2025 Princeton 11.97%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 8.68%) Overall Tournament Win Probability 2025 Ev. Memorial: 34.27% 2025 Gibson Southern: 39.43% 2025 Vincennes: 2.46% 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey): 1.17% 2025 Southridge: 10.10% 2025 Ev. Mater Dei: 12.49% 2025 Princeton: 0.09% Potential Finals 2025 Ev. Memorial is a 24.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Memorial 86.77%, 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) 13.23%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 4.45%) 2025 Ev. Memorial is a 12.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Southridge (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Memorial 72.3%, 2025 Southridge 27.7%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 18.26%) 2025 Ev. Memorial is a 12.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Mater Dei (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Memorial 72.3%, 2025 Ev. Mater Dei 27.7%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 22.77%) 2025 Ev. Memorial is a 38.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Princeton (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Memorial 94.87%, 2025 Princeton 5.13%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.89%) 2025 Gibson Southern is a 29.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Gibson Southern 90.59%, 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) 9.41%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 4.68%) 2025 Gibson Southern is a 17.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Southridge (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Gibson Southern 79.3%, 2025 Southridge 20.7%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 19.18%) 2025 Gibson Southern is a 17.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Mater Dei (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Gibson Southern 79.3%, 2025 Ev. Mater Dei 20.7%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 23.93%) 2025 Gibson Southern is a 43.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Princeton (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Gibson Southern 96.57%, 2025 Princeton 3.43%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.93%) 2025 Vincennes is a 10.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Vincennes 69.12%, 2025 Mt. Vern. (Posey) 30.88%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.47%) 2025 Southridge is a 1.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Vincennes (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Southridge 52.88%, 2025 Vincennes 47.12%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 1.93%) 2025 Ev. Mater Dei is a 1.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Vincennes (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Mater Dei 52.88%, 2025 Vincennes 47.12%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 2.40%) 2025 Vincennes is a 24.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Princeton (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Vincennes 86.77%, 2025 Princeton 13.23%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.09%)

Predict a Sectional Tool (using Sagarin ratings) Tournament Predictions Quarter-Finals 2025 Indy Cathedral advances on a bye. 2025 Anderson advances on a bye. 2025 New Palestine advances on a bye. 2025 Plainfield advances on a bye. Potential Semi-Finals Top Bracket (Winner 1/2 vs. Winner 3/4) 2025 Indy Cathedral is a 64.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Anderson (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Indy Cathedral 99.3%, 2025 Anderson 0.7%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 100.00%) Bottom Bracket (Winner 5/6 vs. Winner 7/8) 2025 New Palestine is a 16.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Plainfield (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 New Palestine 78.01%, 2025 Plainfield 21.99%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 100.00%) Overall Tournament Win Probability 2025 Indy Cathedral: 32.56% 2025 Anderson: 0.00% 2025 New Palestine: 57.65% 2025 Plainfield: 9.79% Potential Finals 2025 New Palestine is a 13.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Indy Cathedral (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 New Palestine 73.81%, 2025 Indy Cathedral 26.19%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 77.46%) 2025 Indy Cathedral is a 3.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Plainfield (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Indy Cathedral 55.73%, 2025 Plainfield 44.27%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 21.83%) 2025 New Palestine is a 78.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Anderson (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 New Palestine 99.75%, 2025 Anderson 0.25%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.55%) 2025 Plainfield is a 61.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Anderson (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Plainfield 99.12%, 2025 Anderson 0.88%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.16%)

Tournament Predictions Quarter-Finals 2025 Ev. Reitz is a 31.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Central (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Reitz 91.52%, 2025 Ev. Central 8.48%. 2025 Heritage Hills is a 43.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Washington (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Heritage Hills 96.44%, 2025 Washington 3.56%. 2025 Jasper is a 15.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Boonville (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Jasper 76.67%, 2025 Boonville 23.33%. 2025 Ev. Harrison is a 10.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Bosse (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Harrison 69.12%, 2025 Ev. Bosse 30.88%. Potential Semi-Finals Top Bracket (Winner 1/2 vs. Winner 3/4) 2025 Heritage Hills is a 51.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Central (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Heritage Hills 98.12%, 2025 Ev. Central 1.88%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 8.20%) 2025 Washington is a 8.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Central (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Washington 65.76%, 2025 Ev. Central 34.24%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 0.31%) 2025 Heritage Hills is a 20.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Reitz (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Heritage Hills 82.83%, 2025 Ev. Reitz 17.17%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 88.18%) 2025 Ev. Reitz is a 22.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Washington (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Reitz 84.9%, 2025 Washington 15.1%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 3.31%) Bottom Bracket (Winner 5/6 vs. Winner 7/8) 2025 Jasper is a 36.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Harrison (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Jasper 94.28%, 2025 Ev. Harrison 5.72%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 53.37%) 2025 Jasper is a 47.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Bosse (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Jasper 97.36%, 2025 Ev. Bosse 2.64%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 23.46%) 2025 Boonville is a 20.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Harrison (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Boonville 82.83%, 2025 Ev. Harrison 17.17%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 16.10%) 2025 Boonville is a 31.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Bosse (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Boonville 91.82%, 2025 Ev. Bosse 8.18%. (Probability of this specific semi-final matchup occurring: 7.07%) Overall Tournament Win Probability 2025 Ev. Central: 0.03% 2025 Ev. Reitz: 9.06% 2025 Heritage Hills: 65.67% 2025 Washington: 0.13% 2025 Jasper: 22.30% 2025 Boonville: 2.59% 2025 Ev. Harrison: 0.20% 2025 Ev. Bosse: 0.02% Potential Finals 2025 Jasper is a 36.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Central (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Jasper 94.06%, 2025 Ev. Central 5.94%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.19%) 2025 Boonville is a 20.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Central (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Boonville 82.27%, 2025 Ev. Central 17.73%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.05%) 2025 Ev. Central is a 0.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Harrison (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Central 50.96%, 2025 Ev. Harrison 49.04%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.02%) 2025 Ev. Central is a 11.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Bosse (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Central 69.94%, 2025 Ev. Bosse 30.06%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.00%) 2025 Jasper is a 5.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Reitz (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Jasper 59.48%, 2025 Ev. Reitz 40.52%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 13.22%) 2025 Ev. Reitz is a 10.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Boonville (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Reitz 69.12%, 2025 Boonville 30.88%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 3.59%) 2025 Ev. Reitz is a 31.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Harrison (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Reitz 91.82%, 2025 Ev. Harrison 8.18%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 1.06%) 2025 Ev. Reitz is a 42.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Bosse (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Ev. Reitz 96.17%, 2025 Ev. Bosse 3.83%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.22%) 2025 Heritage Hills is a 15.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Jasper (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Heritage Hills 76.67%, 2025 Jasper 23.33%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 59.17%) 2025 Heritage Hills is a 31.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Boonville (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Heritage Hills 91.52%, 2025 Boonville 8.48%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 16.07%) 2025 Heritage Hills is a 52.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Harrison (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Heritage Hills 98.19%, 2025 Ev. Harrison 1.81%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 4.73%) 2025 Heritage Hills is a 62.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Bosse (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Heritage Hills 99.18%, 2025 Ev. Bosse 0.82%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.97%) 2025 Jasper is a 27.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Washington (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Jasper 89.19%, 2025 Washington 10.81%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.52%) 2025 Boonville is a 11.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Washington (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Boonville 70.74%, 2025 Washington 29.26%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.14%) 2025 Washington is a 9.0-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Harrison (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Washington 66.61%, 2025 Ev. Harrison 33.39%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.04%) 2025 Washington is a 19.5-point favorite vs. 2025 Ev. Bosse (no HFA). Win probability: 2025 Washington 81.71%, 2025 Ev. Bosse 18.29%. (Probability of this specific final matchup occurring: 0.01%)

Sagarin ratings are updated, so you can Predict a Sectional.

HH Patriots vs. HH Patriots (Heritage Heights and Hills almost happened in 2003, I understand, but Heritage Hills picked up Mt Vernon (Fortville) for one year.)