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Mater Dei is at home, the newly renovated REITZ BOWL. That's good for 2.2 points per Jeff Sagarin.

I think North Posey is very underrated right now. Anytime you have a Sapp in the backfield, good things will happen for Poseyvillle. Eta: Meant Mauck

Harrell has AP, USA, and IFCA listed on his website, but the AP is still the final poll of last year. I used to have access to AP subscriptions, I might have to ask a former colleague if it is still going out.

They already co-op of sorts, kids of Cannelton have played at Tell City for ages. Kids at Forest Park used to play at Southridge and Heritage Hills.

Any luck finding the Associated Press (AP) Polls?

Who is the favorite between Castle-Mater Dei?

16 or 24 teams to have a legitimate state champion? Also the South has almost no representation. Union (Dugger) has a team but is considered more south central Indiana (Bloomington region) than Southwest or Southeast. There are however a ton of schools like Loogootee, Barr Reeve, Wood Memorial, Cannelton, Northeast Dubois, Evansville Day which are "basketball schools" still and might be able to get an eight-man program going in southern Indiana.

Indiana High School Football Top 25 Rankings: Carmel, Carroll Surge After Week 1 1. Brownsburg Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 1 Last Week: Brownsburg 48, Lawrence North 25 Outlook: Brownsburg got the season started with a comfortable 48-25 win over Lawrence North, and now the Bulldogs turn their attention to their home game against Rabun Gap-Nacoochee of Georgia. The visiting Eagles compete in the North Carolina Independent Schools Athletic Association (NCISAA), and they are coming off a hard-fought 42-40 loss to Venice, one of the top programs in Florida. It’s a good test for the Bulldogs to measure themselves against a quality program from Georgia. 2. New Palestine Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 2 Last Week: New Palestine 28, St. Francis (Ill.) 17 Outlook: New Palestine defeated a St. Francis squad that was ranked No. 11 in High School On SI’s Illinois Preseason High School Football Top 25. It’s a sign that the Dragons are ready for the rigors of a tough nine-game schedule that includes a late-season matchup with the national No. 1 IMG Academy of Florida. They’ll take on another Top 25 foe from the Hoosier State this Friday when No. 25 East Central pays a visit. 3. Westfield Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 3 Last Week: Westfield 49, Homestead 21 Outlook: Westfield looked every bit like a top-three team in a 49-21 opening-night win over Homestead of Fort Wayne. It was a good warmup for this week’s contest against No. 5 Carmel, the first of six games against teams currently ranked in Indiana’s top 25. The Shamrocks now host No. 5 Carmel in one of Indiana's biggest Week 2 matchups. 4. Warren Central Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 4 Last Week: Warren Central 20, Center Grove 14 Outlook: Warren Central backed up its preseason No. 4 ranking with a 20-14 victory over No. 5 Center Grove in one of the state's marquee opening-week matchups. The game went according to the rankings, with Warren Central winning 20-14, and the Warriors get a bit of a break this weekend when they visit unranked Elkhart, which edged Concord 22-20. 5. Carmel Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 7 Last Week: Carmel 47, Fishers 0 Outlook: Carmel was ranked No. 7 heading into its game against No. 6 Fishers, and unlike the Top 5 battle between Warren Central and Center Grove, it turned out to be a one-sided affair. Carmel moves up two spots just in time for its trip to face No. 3 Westfield Friday night. 6. Center Grove Record: 0-1 Previous Rank: 5 Last Week: Warren Central 20, Center Grove 14 Outlook: Center Grove came up short in its game against No. 4 Warren Central, but it has another chance this Friday to make a statement against No. 7 Carroll at home in Greenwood. 7. Carroll Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 10 Last Week: Carroll 54, Hamilton Southeastern 23 Outlook: Carroll walloped a Hamilton Southeastern squad that was ranked No. 11 to open the season, but it’s immediately back to business in Fort Wayne for the Chargers. They’ll have what could prove to be an even stiffer challenge Friday when they hit the road to face Center Grove. 8. Ben Davis Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 13 Last Week: Ben Davis 33, Cathedral 27 Outlook: Ben Davis got a giant win against a Cathedral squad ranked No. 8 to open the season. Now, the Giants inhabit that No. 8 position as they look to build on their momentum with a trek to No. 10 Avon this Friday night. 9. Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 12 Last Week: Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger 15, Roncalli 14 Outlook: Bishop Dwenger got the season started with a heart-stopping 15-14 overtime win against previous No. 14 Roncalli. They’ll step across the state line Friday for an interstate battle against St. Francis de Sales of Toledo, Ohio. 10. Avon Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 17 Last Week: Avon 31, Decatur Central 6 Outlook: Avon beat the previous No. 9 Decatur Central 31-6 to start the season in top form, and it gets a crack at moving up again this week if it can beat No. 8 Ben Davis at home Friday night. 11. Fishers Record: 0-1 Previous Rank: 6 Last Week: Carmel 47, Fishers 0 Outlook: As noted above, Fishers was overwhelmed by Carmel on opening night, and the Tigers don’t have much time to figure out what went wrong. A date with No. 20 Lawrence North looms this Friday, but at least they get the Wildcats at home. 12. Hamilton Southeastern Record: 0-1 Previous Rank: 11 Last Week: Carroll 54, Hamilton Southeastern 23 Outlook: Hamilton Southeastern was pummeled in a 54-23 loss to Carroll of Fort Wayne, but the Royals get a chance to work out the kinks this week at home against unranked North Central. The Royals will need to regroup quickly with an upcoming gauntlet against Avon, Fishers and Westfield during the first three weeks of September. 13. Cathedral Record: 0-1 Previous Rank: 8 Last Week: Ben Davis 33, Cathedral 27 Outlook: Cathedral fell in a close game to Ben Davis in the opener, and it won’t get any easier for the Fighting Irish in Week 2 when they host Loyola Academy of Illinois. The visiting Ramblers are currently ranked No. 3 in the Illinois High School Football Top 25. 14. Merrillville Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 15 Last Week: Merrillville 27, Andrean 21 Outlook: Merrillville beat a solid Andrean squad to get the campaign underway, and it’ll look to build on that win in a Friday visit to Lafayette Jefferson. It’s the last tuneup before facing a Crown Point squad on Sept. 4 that is currently ranked No. 24 on this list. 15. Decatur Central Record: 0-1 Previous Rank: 9 Last Week: Avon 31, Decatur Central 6 Outlook: Decatur Central's 31-6 loss to Avon cost the Hawks their spot in the top 10, dropping them six places to No. 15. A Friday visit to Wayne of Fort Wayne gives them an opportunity to rebound before league play begins next week. 16. Indianapolis Bishop Chatard Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 16 Last Week: Indianapolis Bishop Chatard 35, Lafayette Jefferson 7 Outlook: Bishop Chatard picked up an easy win on the road at Lafayette Jefferson to kick off the season, and now the Trojans will host Leo in a final prep before facing No. 18 Roncalli and No. 13 Cathedral in consecutive weeks. 17. Bloomington South Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 18 Last Week: Bloomington South 44, Bloomington North 6 Outlook: Bloomington South crushed its rival Bloomington North in a satisfying start to the season, and it’ll look to build on that Friday at Martinsville. 18. Roncalli Record: 0-1 Previous Rank: 14 Last Week: Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger 15, Roncalli 14 Outlook: Roncalli drops four spots this week after losing 15-14 to Bishop Dwenger in overtime. It doesn't have much time to regroup with No. 22 Franklin Central coming to town this week. 19. Lawrence Central Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 19 Last Week: Lawrence Central 67, Jeffersonville 20 Outlook: Lawrence Central rolled to a big 67-20 win over Jeffersonville last Friday, and now the Bears look to build on their big start Friday at Zionsville. They’ll face five ranked opponents in their final seven games, so they can’t afford any stumbles. 20. Lawrence North Record: 0-1 Previous Rank: 20 Last Week: Brownsburg 48, Lawrence North 25 Outlook: Lawrence North is navigating a brutal opening stretch against three consecutive opponents ranked higher on this list. After falling to No. 1 Brownsburg, the Wildcats visit No. 11 Fishers this week before facing No. 19 Lawrence Central. 21. Heritage Hills Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 21 Last Week: Heritage Hills 49, South Spencer 13 Outlook: Heritage Hills got the season started in grand fashion, steamrolling South Spencer in a 49-13 rout. Next up for the Patriots is a Friday night contest at Apollo. 22. Franklin Central Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 22 Last Week: Franklin Central 31, Plainfield 7 Outlook: Franklin Central eased into its campaign with a 31-7 win over Plainfield, but there isn’t anything easy about the rest of the Flashes’ schedule, with six opponents currently ranked over the final eight weeks of the regular season. That gauntlet begins this Friday with a road trip to face Roncalli. 23. Penn Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 23 Last Week: Penn 49, Valparaiso 24 Outlook: Penn encountered few difficulties in its 49-24 win over Valparaiso last week, and now the Kingsmen will face their crosstown rivals from Mishawaka Friday evening, looking to add another quality win. 24. Crown Point Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 24 Last Week: Crown Point 42, Lowell 0 Outlook: Crown Point dominated its opening-week matchup with a shutout victory over Lowell. The Bulldogs will look to maintain their momentum this Friday when they host unranked Chicago Taft (Ill.) before their highly anticipated September 4 showdown against No. 14 Merrillville. 25. East Central Record: 1-0 Previous Rank: 25 Last Week: East Central 38, Lawrenceburg 3 Outlook: East Central started its season strong with a decisive win over Lawrenceburg. The Trojans face an immediate, massive test this Friday night when they travel to face No. 2 New Palestine in one of the state's premier Week 2 matchups.

Dang. I thought I gave North enough points against Memorial. Also, how close do you think Mater Dei-Castle will be?

Do 8-man players get recruited by colleges? (honest question)

There's no agenda behind the polls other than to reflect popular opinion and generate a little discussion. I hope GIbson wins every game except against HH and most HH fans probably feel that way. I assume the same is true vice versa. It's going to be hard to knock off Memorial if they run the table and HH or GS have one in the L column. This is all subjective, which makes it fun. I guess.

Week 2 Matchups St. Pius at Gibson Southern (-19.5) Heritage Hills at Owensboro Apollo (+10.5) South Spencer at Eminence (-2.5) West Washington at Tell City (-14.5) Reitz vs. Tri-West (+6.5) Castle at Mater Dei (0) Central at Bosse (+7.5) Memorial at North (+17.5) Monrovia at Linton (0) Vincennes at Northview (-6.5) --- Week 1 Standings gonzoron - 8 Cappy - 7 IUFAN - 7 SPARKS - 6 JQWL - 5

CLASS 6A Brownsburg (10) (1-0) 100 Carmel (1-0) 88 Westfield (1-0) 79 Warren Central (1-0) 60 Carroll (Allen) (1-0) 50 Center Grove (0-1) 40 Lawrence North (0-1) 37 Crown Point (1-0) 30 Penn (1-0) 20 Avon (1-0) 16 Others receiving votes: Ben Davis 1-0 (15), Columbus North 1-0 (5), Fishers 0-1 (4), Franklin Central 1-0 (3), Elkhart 1-0 (2), Merillville 1-0 (1) CLASS 5A New Palestine (10) (1-0) 100 Ind. Cathedral (0-1) 78 Bloomington South (1-0) 77 Castle (1-0) 54 Warsaw (1-0) 51 Floyd Central (1-0) 45 Lafayette Jeff (0-1) 39 Concord (0-1) 36 Snider (0-1) 32 Plainfield (0-1) 15 Others receiving votes: Pendleton Heights 1-0 (14), Greenfield Central 1-0 (4), Huntington North 1-0 (2), Mt. Vernon (Fortville) 1-0 (2), Evan. North 0-1 (1) CLASS 4A East Central (6) (1-0) 94 FW Dwenger (3) (1-0) 91 Ind. Chatard (1) (1-0) 82 East Noble (1-0) 64 Ind. Roncalli (0-1) 63 Mishawaka (1-0) 44 Yorktown (1-0) 36 Hobart (1-0) 29 SB St. Joseph (0-0) 16 Columbia City (1-0) 11 Others receiving votes: Heritage Hills 1-0 (10), Leo 1-0 (5), FW Luers 0-1 (2), Northview 1-0 (2), Evan. Reitz 1-0 (1) CLASS 3A Evan. Memorial (8) (1-0) 97 Andrean (0-1) 78 Adams Central (2) (1-0) 77 Lawrenceburg (1-0) 58 Gibson Southern (0-1) 53 Evan. Mater Dei (1-0) 49 Tri-West Hendricks (1-0) 41 Indian Creek (1-0) 30 Twin Lakes (1-0) 23 Maconaquah (1-0) 15 Others receiving votes: Bluffton 1-0 (12), Griffith 1-0 (8), John Glenn 1-0 (4), Mississinewa 0-1 (2), Angola 1-0 (1), Sullivan 1-0 (1), Tippecanoe Valley 1-0 (1) CLASS 2A Brownstown Central (5) (1-0) 86 Cascade (2) (1-0) 84 Lapel (1) (1-0) 75 South Putnam (2) (1-0) 75 Ind. Lutheran (1-0) 74 Eastern (Greentown) (1-0) 35 Rensselaer Central (1-0) 26 Eastside (1-0) 21 Rochester (1-0) 15 North Posey (1-0) 14 Others receiving votes: Eastern Hancock 1-0 (9), Linton Stockton 0-1 (9), Southmont 1-0 (7), Knox 0-1 (6), Providence 0-1 (4), Triton Central 0-1 (4), Bremen 1-0 (3), Oak Hill 0-1 (2), Tipton 1-0 (1) CLASS 1A Riverton Parke (6) (1-0) 95 Pioneer (4) (1-0) 93 Milan (0-0) 76 North Judson (1-0) 76 South Adams (0-1) 44 Laf. Central Catholic (1-0) 40 North Decatur (1-0) 39 Carroll (Flora) (1-0) 32 North Daviess (1-0) 17 Sheridan (0-1) 15 Others receiving votes: Springs Valley 0-1 (12), West Washington 1-0 (4), Tri 1-0 (3), Clinton Prairie 1-0 (2), Madison-Grant 1-0 (1), Tecumseh 1-0 (1)

Class 6A football top 10 Ranking Team Record Votes Prev. ranking 1. Brownsburg (16) 1-0 160 1 2. Westfield 1-0 137 2 3. Carmel 1-0 127 3 4. Warren Central 1-0 112 5 5. Fort Wayne Carroll 1-0 87 8 6. Center Grove 0-1 59 6 7. Crown Point 1-0 55 7 8. Lawrence North 0-1 49 4 9. Penn 1-0 43 9 10. Ben Davis 1-0 26 NR Dropped out: Hamilton Southeastern (10) Others receiving votes: Merrillville 15. Avon 7. Columbus North 2. Elkhart 1. Class 5A football top 10 Ranking Team Record Votes Prev. ranking 1. New Palestine (16) 1-0 160 1 2. Bloomington South 1-0 138 3 3. Cathedral 0-1 122 2 4. Castle 1-0 83 8 5. Pendleton Heights 1-0 76 9 6. Warsaw 1-0 70 NR 7. Floyd Central 1-0 65 10 8. Lafayette Jeff 0-1 44 4 9. Concord 0-1 42 6 10. Fort Wayne Snider 0-1 31 7 Dropped out: Plainfield (5) Others receiving votes: Franklin 26. Plainfield 19. Evansville North 3. Huntington North 2. Class 4A football top 10 Ranking Team Record Votes Prev. ranking 1. Bishop Chatard (8) 1-0 140 3 2. FW Dwenger (3) 1-0 137 4 3. East Central (4) 1-0 135 2 4. Roncalli (1) 0-1 117 1 5. Mishawaka 1-0 82 5 6. Yorktown 1-0 70 6 7. East Noble 1-0 65 7 8. SB St. Joseph 1-0 56 8 9. Hobart 1-0 30 9 10. Heritage Hills 1-0 16 NR Dropped out: Fort Wayne Luers (10) Others receiving votes: Evansville Reitz 13. Muncie Central 8. Jasper 3. Guerin Catholic 2. DeKalb 2. Fort Wayne Luers 1. Class 3A football top 10 Ranking Team Record Votes Prev. ranking 1. Evansville Memorial (9) 1-0 144 3 2. Andrean (3) 0-1 124 1 3. Adams Central (3) 1-0 123 5 4. (tie) Tri-West (1) 1-0 104 6 4. (tie) Gibson Southern 0-1 104 2 6. Lawrenceburg 0-1 65 4 7. Evansville Mater Dei 1-0 56 7 8. Twin Lakes 1-0 53 9 9. Indian Creek 1-0 46 NR 10. Maconaquah 1-0 23 NR Dropped out: Mississinewa (8), Eastbrook (10) Others receiving votes: Fairfield 6. Eastbrook 5. Mississinewa 5. Griffith 4. Norwell 3. Bluffton 2. Heritage Christian 2. Tippecanoe Valley 1. West Lafayette 1. Class 2A football top 10 Ranking Team Record Votes Prev. ranking 1. Lapel (6) 1-0 150 2 2. Brownstown Central (6) 1-0 147 1 3. Lutheran (2) 1-0 124 3 4. Cascade (2) 1-0 117 4 5. South Putnam 1-0 99 5 6. Eastside 1-0 70 9 7. Eastern (Greentown) 1-0 67 6 (tie) 8. North Posey 1-0 39 NR 9. Linton-Stockton 0-1 24 6 (tie) 10. Eastern Hancock 1-0 18 NR Dropped out: Providence (8), Knox (10) Others receiving votes: Providence 12. Rochester 9. Bremen 1. Southmont 1. Centerville 1. Class 1A football top 10 Ranking Team Record Votes Prev. ranking 1. Riverton Parke (8) 1-0 150 2 2. Pioneer (6) 1-0 146 1 3. North Judson (1) 1-0 126 4 (tie) 4. Milan 1-0 110 4 (tie) 5. South Adams 0-1 79 3 6. North Decatur 1-0 65 9 7. Lafayette Central Cath. 1-0 60 10 8. North Daviess 1-0 38 NR 9. Springs Valley 0-1 20 6 10. Tri 1-0 19 NR Dropped out: Frontier (7), Sheridan (8) Others receiving votes: Clinton Prairie 17. Sheridan 16. Tecumseh 10. Carroll (Flora) 9. Frontier 3. West Washington 3. Cloverdale 1. This article originally appeared on Indianapolis Star: Four new No. 1 teams USA TODAY Network Indiana high school football state poll

Noted.

Let's move on from legal accusations regarding minors who are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Instead, this conversation should focus on the football repercussions and expectations for the coaching change. We are walking a fine line even though this has been widely reported.

Where would you rank them in the Top 10?

Congrats @gonzoron on the enormity of your success. Week 2 matchups will come out after the polls have been released.

I agree with you in a perfect world. But if the question is 8-man football vs. no football, I'll choose 8-man. And that seems to be the question these schools have answered. I also agree that the IFCA and IHSAA should permit co-oping. Let the market of ideas win the day.

TGD 1A-3A Poll - Week 1 1. Evansville Memorial (1-0) 91 (5) 2. Adams Central (1-0) 78 3. Andrean (0-1) 67 (3) 4. Gibson Southern (0-1) 63 5. Cascade (1-0) 51 (1) 6. Evansville Mater Dei (1-0) 44 7. Lawrenceburg (0-1) 36 (1) 8. Tri-West Hendricks (1-0) 30 9. Lapel (1-0) 22 10. Brownstown Central (1-0) 21 Honorable Mention: Indian Creek (1-0) 20, Indianapolis Lutheran (1-0) 11, South Putnam (1-0) 4, Twin Lakes (1-0) 4, North Judson (1-0) 2, Riverton Parke (1-0) 2, Vincennes Lincoln (1-0) 2, Rensselaer Central (1-0) 2. The weekly Gridiron Digest Polls uniquely combine the votes of fans, media, and coaches.

TGD 4A-6A Poll - Week 1 1. Brownsburg (1-0) 79 (7) 2. Carmel (1-0) 61 (1) 3. Westfield (1-0) 60 4. Warren Central (1-0) 49 5. New Palestine (1-0) 48 6. Fort Wayne Carroll (1-0) 38 7. Center Grove (0-1) 37 8. Lawrence North (0-1) 26 9. Ben Davis (1-0) 19 10. Chatard (1-0) 7 Honorable Mention: Avon (1-0) 5, Crown Point (1-0) 5, Cathedral (0-1) 4, East Central (1-0) 1, Penn (1-0) 1. The weekly Gridiron Digest Polls uniquely combine the votes of fans, media, and coaches.

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