The Democrat's roster for a Trump - beater in 2020

[gonzoron]

50 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

Only in the past race when comments were made about Trump and Hillary's hubby???  You sure you never commented back at that time about their sexual assault or harassment allegations??

Only in case of Supreme Court justice nominations by a GOP president?  Didn't you make some comments back then?

I am just seeking additional insight as to your profound "logic" when sexual assault allegations have merit.......

All of the items you point out may have been ISSUES, but they were not FACTORS. There is a huge difference. 

Add yourself to the list of those of you who need dictionaries.

[gonzoron]

1 minute ago, TrojanDad said:

Interesting that you would take your precious time to comment repeatedly in the past about ISSUES that you knew were not going to be FACTORS.

But I call BS on you again.  Don't try and convince me that media spin (or in the case of Biden lack thereof) is needed to help influence voters.  If it didn't matter, media would simply report the news and not spin it.  Trying to capture independent votes and swaying public perception is absolutely a FACTOR.  Attempting to cause dissention is NOT just an ISSUE.  If one didn't feel it didn't produce ROI, it wouldn't be used.

Kavanagh was smeared...it was done by folks that wanted it to be a FACTOR in his final confirmation.  In this case it didn't work.  But long-term, those same people want it as a set up to be a FACTOR in the next SCOTUS nomination by Trump....especially when those people know the replacement of elderly justices may just be an issue facing them in the near future.  

You attempt to be your typical SA and simplistic approach to application of wording is laughable.

You lose again. Just man up and own it.

You certainly appear to expect the issues you have with my words to be a factor in how I phrase comments, but those issues aren’t factors, and I don’t plan to de-bait them in the future. Thank you for your support.

[gonzoron]

Back on topic:

 

[gonzoron]

25 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

In other words, you got your clocked cleaned and now it's time to take the ball and run back home with your tail between the legs.  I get that.

Maybe next time in lieu of telling people they need dictionaries with a feeble attempt of discrediting their education, you'll reflect on your own education (or lack thereof) , and/or simply shut the continous open hole in your head.

There you go again. Getting your definitions mixed up. Education and intelligence are 2 different things, and as you’ve shown in your replies to me today on this thread, they can be mutually exclusive.

[Muda69]

 

[gonzoron]

4 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

You butchered ISSUES and FACTORS and now your going down the difference road again??

If by "butchered" you mean explaining where these words apply to those with poor vocabulary, I suppose you're correct. 

 

5 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

Remember Gonzmoron

Sure thing TrojanDouche

[gonzoron]

Back on topic. Again. 

It's official:

 Hillary Clinton Endorses Joe Biden

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/28/847376418/former-democratic-nominee-hillary-clinton-endorses-joe-biden?utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=nprnews&fbclid=IwAR2Q_MRx8edyizt7p94d2D8L5anj11iFCS1XcIHjUGHjeBLDsUznZ5DWMUk

[TheStatGuy]

1 hour ago, gonzoron said:

Back on topic. Again. 

It's official:

 Hillary Clinton Endorses Joe Biden

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/28/847376418/former-democratic-nominee-hillary-clinton-endorses-joe-biden?utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=nprnews&fbclid=IwAR2Q_MRx8edyizt7p94d2D8L5anj11iFCS1XcIHjUGHjeBLDsUznZ5DWMUk

Figured so. 

[Muda69]

All the uni-party sheeple are falling in line.

 

[Muda69]

Who?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/hillary-clinton-endorsement-joe-biden-irrelevant/

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Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is still alive, has endorsed Joe Biden’s presidential campaign.

That is inspiring: A corrupt, decrepit, exhausted relic of the 1990s has given her blessing to a corrupt, decrepit, exhausted relic of the 1970s. Mrs. Clinton already has lost an election to Donald Trump, a visitor from the 1980s, and Joe Biden might very well do the same.

(Or not.)

Mrs. Clinton’s endorsement is a reminder of Biden’s role as the candidate of continuity. Biden was Barack Obama’s vice president — basically a predictable old white familiar man who spent the Obama years in a dusty case labeled “Break Glass in Case of Emergency” — but he might have served as comfortably in a Hillary Rodham Clinton administration. Or more comfortably, even: Barack Obama was, among other things, a mild and desultory critic of the 1990s settlement, the Bill Clinton–Newt Gingrich dyad that left the budget balanced and no one entirely satisfied.

One element of the 2008 Democratic primary was the muttered debate between those who saw the techno-utopianism of the Clinton era as the apex of practical American politics and proposed returning to it after the detour of the George W. Bush administration and those who saw in Obama a critique of the moderating New Democrat elements of the 1990s and desired a politics with more kick. Obama won that debate, and Biden came along for the ride to offer assurance to those who worried that the relatively unknown and freshly minted senator from Illinois might prove to be too radical.

Which is to say, in 2008 Mrs. Clinton was the continuity candidate in the Democratic primary and was rejected. In 2016, she was the continuity candidate in the general election and was rejected. In 2008, Democrats decided that they wanted something more than Bill Clintonism with ovaries. In 2016, Republican primary voters were offered several continuity candidates and a few ideological pugilists such as Senator Ted Cruz of Texas. They opted instead for radical discontinuity in the primary, choosing in Donald Trump a man with only the lightest affiliation with the Republican Party and no affiliation at all with the conservative movement that does the Republican Party’s thinking for it to modest effect and very little thanks. And the candidate of radical discontinuity prevailed in the general election.

Many Republicans remain quite pleased with Trump. His 2020 job-approval ratings among Republicans have ranged from a low of 88 percent to a high of 94 percent and were at 93 percent in the most recent Gallup survey. His overall approval ratings in 2020 have ranged from a high of 49 percent to a low of 43 percent, where he currently sits.

Trump is a ubiquitous president but not a very energetic one: Out of the 700 or so key positions that require confirmation, nearly 200 remained vacant as of Monday morning — 146 positions had no nominee at all, 20 had a presumptive nominee not yet formally nominated, and 79 had nominees not yet confirmed in spite of the fact that the president’s party controls the Senate. The New York Times reports that his working day consists mainly of yelling at Fox News and then berating reporters at his regular coronavirus briefings, recently suspended. The president, enraged by the Times account, spent hours berating reporters by Twitter, where he was incessantly mocked for his spelling (“hambergers,” etc.) and his apparent misunderstanding of what a Nobel prize is and how “Nobel prize” is spelled.

But 93 percent of Republicans are satisfied with all that.

Most Republicans do not wish to return to the pre-Trump era. (We few remaining Eisenhower Republicans meet in a very small room and speak only in whispers.) Many Democrats evince a certain wistfulness for the Obama years, but that is more of a question of pecking order than anything to do with great Democratic policy victories, which were in fact few and far between during the Obama years: Even the landmark health-care law of 2009 began unraveling before it was enacted, and the system it tried to establish is today a wreck.

The conservative writer P. J. O’Rourke in 2016 offered a mock endorsement of Mrs. Clinton over Trump, saying: “She’s wrong about absolutely everything, but she’s wrong within normal parameters.” Don’t expect Biden to take that up as a slogan, but the former vice president implicitly is offering himself as a “return to normalcy” candidate on similar lines — a creep, a liar, a feckless time-serving hack of the lowest and meanest kind, but within normal parameters. That fits in with the basic bedrock dynamic of 2020: For Democrats, it’s anybody but Trump, and, for Republicans, it’s anybody but any Democrat. With a severe economic contraction on the way and an epidemic still raging, Trump’s argument for himself right now is, “Boy, things were great, right up until they weren’t!” Biden’s argument is that the worst day with Biden will be better than the best day with Trump.

The lines are drawn, but I wonder how many Americans really want a return to normalcy. They may not all want Trump, and they mostly may not want a confessing socialist such as Bernie Sanders, but from the Obama campaign to the Tea Party movement to Occupy Wall Street to the Trump campaign, there is plenty of evidence that 21^st-century Americans are done with 20^th-century politics and that they are inconsolably dissatisfied with what has been on offer from the two major parties. There is a demand, often dangerous and destructive, for radical change. Joe Biden is unlikely to slake that particular thirst.

Biden was first elected to the Senate the year I was born. He is a product not of the Clinton years but of the Nixon era. Even with an aging electorate (the median age of a voter in the 2016 election was 51), he is a dusty holdover of a time that is quickly receding into ancient history.

(These things move quickly: In 2011, the late Phyllis Schlafly graciously organized a little book event for me in Washington; watching Cate Blanchett play her in Mrs. America, among the hairdos and groovy interiors of the 1970s, it could not be more obvious that she was, after all, more a part of Jack Kennedy’s world than Mark Zuckerberg’s.)

Mrs. Clinton came to prominence when most Americans had never sent an email or heard of a web browser. Joe Biden was elected to the Senate in the first year that color televisions outsold black-and-white models. He comes from the other side of a great divide — and that is not only a matter of age. “Hillary Endorses Biden” is a headline that belongs on newsprint, like “Dewey Defeats Truman.”

The response to Mrs. Clinton’s endorsement in 2020 was, “So, what?”

The day after tomorrow, it will be, “Who?”

 

[TheStatGuy]

7 hours ago, Muda69 said:

All the uni-party sheeple are falling in line.

 

So..

Someone who agrees with Joe Biden on a few things is a sheeple cause she endorsed him?

 

I mean. Who else is she gonna support? Trump? Lol. 

Edited April 29, 2020 by Ultimate Warrior

[gonzoron]

Republicans Ridicule Democrats For Caring As Little About Sexual Assault As They Do

https://www.theonion.com/republicans-ridicule-democrats-for-caring-as-little-abo-1843160385?utm_campaign=The+Onion&utm_content=1588185173&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1t7Y1ZVTElCCxYhWLB5c-s0fm4-m42sRJQMVk9Rs4lbbW2mu75unvU1y4

[swordfish]

Heard a new topic today from Joe Biden......Economy Intercourse.......

[Muda69]

4 hours ago, Ultimate Warrior said:

So..

Someone who agrees with Joe Biden on a few things is a sheeple cause she endorsed him?

Yes.  The uni-party is nothing but a bunch of sheeple.

 

[TheStatGuy]

2 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Yes.  The uni-party is nothing but a bunch of sheeple.

 

Funny. Howe liked this and by your point Hes a sheep too. 

 

[swordfish]

16 hours ago, swordfish said:

Heard a new topic today from Joe Biden......Economy Intercourse.......

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/joe-biden-economic-intercourse-at-risk-due-to-trum/

Joe Biden says if he were managing the coronavirus pandemic on behalf of the U.S. there would be more diplomacy to safeguard “economic intercourse around the world.”

The Democrat told a local CBS affiliate in Miami on Monday that President Trump’s decision to prioritize America above all other nations is tantamount to going “alone” when it comes to the contagion.

“I would get much more engaged in the world. We can’t step back,” Mr. Biden said. “If in fact for example, we solve the problem in the United States of America, and you don’t solve it in other parts of the world, you know what’s gonna happen? You’re gonna have travel bans. You’re gonna not be able to have economic intercourse around the world.”

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Mr. Biden’s analogy shot to the top of Twitter’s trending news feed on Tuesday.

Some responses include:

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• Sara Carter: “People are saying it’s a Freudian slip, what do you think?”
• Carmine Sabia: “There is no way I can see that the Democrats allow Economic Intercourse Joe Biden to be their nominee. This is becoming a f—ing cartoon.”
• Steve Deace: “I’m ashamed at how long it’s been since I’ve had economic intercourse.”
• Terrence K. Williams: “This is who the Democrats chose — this looney man — to run against a Genius like President @realDonaldTrump.”

Mr. Biden punctuated his plan with a warning: “Look, when America goes alone, when America is first, it’s America goes alone. … We have to get back into the game.”

Methinks the MSM (while ignoring the former VP's quote) is anxiously waiting for any questionable line from the current President they can bastardize (kinda like "President suggests ingesting disinfectant") to fill the news casts with to get past this one......

Quite frankly I want a President who will prioritize the US over other nations........

[gonzoron]

2 hours ago, swordfish said:

Quite frankly I want a President who will prioritize the US over other nations.......

As do I. Instead of one who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.

‘Trump 2020’ campaign banners are being proudly produced in . . . China?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-2020-campaign-banners-are-being-proudly-produced-in-china-2018-07-25?reflink=mw_share_facebook&fbclid=IwAR1Cx6GyU9XijyEVik4VmpOVnt7sKU5mT-FagrrXEB3u8JjcsVtLHQCZ6Xc

[swordfish]

12 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

As do I. Instead of one who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.

‘Trump 2020’ campaign banners are being proudly produced in . . . China?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-2020-campaign-banners-are-being-proudly-produced-in-china-2018-07-25?reflink=mw_share_facebook&fbclid=IwAR1Cx6GyU9XijyEVik4VmpOVnt7sKU5mT-FagrrXEB3u8JjcsVtLHQCZ6Xc

Not from the official Trump Campaign. 

I found a Trump supporter booth at the Pittsburgh RV show in January.  He had some nice looking stuff, but when I pointed out to him the  origin of nearly all of his products (China) he acted like "no big deal".  Needless to say, I didn't buy anything.  None of the official Trump campaign outlets are allowed to have anything not made in the USA.

That story doesn't distinguish that fact......

[gonzoron]

2 minutes ago, swordfish said:

Not from the official Trump Campaign. 

I found a Trump supporter booth at the Pittsburgh RV show in January.  He had some nice looking stuff, but when I pointed out to him the  origin of nearly all of his products (China) he acted like "no big deal".  Needless to say, I didn't buy anything.  None of the official Trump campaign outlets are allowed to have anything not made in the USA.

That story doesn't distinguish that fact......

Where is the story that the official Trump campaign outlets are attempting to stop the bootleggers? How are these bootleg products being allowed through Customs?

[Howe]

14 hours ago, Ultimate Warrior said:

Funny. Howe liked this and by your point Hes a sheep too. 

 

Muda is correct. Nearly all career politicians are members of the uni-party.

3 hours ago, swordfish said:

Quite frankly I want a President who will prioritize the US over other nations........

It sure beats a radical Islamic terror loving Muslim who hates America.

[swordfish]

57 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

Where is the story that the official Trump campaign outlets are attempting to stop the bootleggers? How are these bootleg products being allowed through Customs?

If you have the time to worry about that, knock yourself out looking for it.....

[gonzoron]

7 minutes ago, swordfish said:

If you have the time to worry about that, knock yourself out looking for it.....

I’ll stand by my original statement regardless of the spin you put on the link. 

[swordfish]

13 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

I’ll stand by my original statement regardless of the spin you put on the link. 

Which one?

As do I. Instead of one who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.

OR

‘Trump 2020’ campaign banners are being proudly produced in . . . China?

Because SF can agree with the first part of your original statement (I'm sure we will disagree on the person whom you are referring)  Even the second part is partially correct, but the campaign (funded by the Republican party, not the individual profiteers as I "SPUN" earlier) isn't the party purchasing from the Chinese producers. (again - a point that was never brought up in the story you linked)

[gonzoron]

31 minutes ago, swordfish said:

Which one?

As do I. Instead of one who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.

OR

‘Trump 2020’ campaign banners are being proudly produced in . . . China?

Because SF can agree with the first part of your original statement (I'm sure we will disagree on the person whom you are referring)  Even the second part is partially correct, but the campaign (funded by the Republican party, not the individual profiteers as I "SPUN" earlier) isn't the party purchasing from the Chinese producers. (again - a point that was never brought up in the story you linked)

Well, I meant my original sentence, since that was my statement. I didn't compose the ariticle in the link. But I'll stand by the link also until it can be disproven. The banners are, in fact, being produced in China.

1 hour ago, Howe said:

It sure beats a radical Islamic terror loving Muslim who hates America.

I'm sure Troj will be along shortly to explain to us what you actually mean by this statement. He seems to be the only one who can translate your gibberish.

[TheStatGuy]

4 hours ago, Howe said:

Muda is correct. Nearly all career politicians are members of the uni-party.

It sure beats a radical Islamic terror loving Muslim who hates America.

I don't ever remember a Muslim being president.. But if one were to become president who cares what religion he is? 

I don't think any president hates America. 

I do think Trump hates most non whites however. 

 

3 hours ago, gonzoron said:

Well, I meant my original sentence, since that was my statement. I didn't compose the ariticle in the link. But I'll stand by the link also until it can be disproven. The banners are, in fact, being produced in China.

I'm sure Troj will be along shortly to explain to us what you actually mean by this statement. He seems to be the only one who can translate your gibberish.

Howe is a racist. 

Yes, I know he supported Howe and its athletes which happen to be more black then white but you can still support black people and hate other races or religions (which Howe seems to do)

 

Howe is just an old white dude whose seeing the America he grew up in and go farther away from that which is a good thing. Republicans are trying to go back to pre civil rights America where Democrats are working tirelessly at moving forward. I get that vibe from Trojandad too. 

Edited April 30, 2020 by Ultimate Warrior