MIC Week #8

[Komets2727]

22 minutes ago, Jetackow said:

Bits and pieces - therefore you assume what the record would be. I think people need to taking reading and comprehending classes here. again, my post was about predicting CP’s future success or claiming they should win against Indy powerhouses. It’s about giving CP and schools like them the recognition they deserve for what they’ve accomplished, while acknowledging the very real challenges they face. CP is hungry for success, and whether they get there or not, they’ve earned the right to be part of the conversation.

 

When did I say they aren’t part of the equation? I want proof of this. 

[Jetackow]

21 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

When did I say they aren’t part of the equation? I want proof of this. 

I never said you did. This is exactly what I said. 

45 minutes ago, Jetackow said:

Bits and pieces - therefore you assume what the record would be. I think people need to taking reading and comprehending classes here. again, my post was about predicting CP’s future success or claiming they should win against Indy powerhouses. It’s about giving CP and schools like them the recognition they deserve for what they’ve accomplished, while acknowledging the very real challenges they face. CP is hungry for success, and whether they get there or not, they’ve earned the right to be part of the conversation.

 

Again, please explain how this has anything to do with what the point of my initial post or follow up posts reiterating it was? And I never said you stated that CP wasn’t part of the equation in your response. I literally went back to my ithe point of my initial post and how you got the number you did. 

[Komets2727]

12 minutes ago, Jetackow said:

I never said you did. This is exactly what I said. 

Again, please explain how this has anything to do with what the point of my initial post or follow up posts reiterating it was? And I never said you stated that CP wasn’t part of the equation in your response. I literally went back to my ithe point of my initial post and how you got the number you did. 

Bro, respect is earned, not given, and me saying 5-3 playing an all Indy schedule is a good record and is being. “Part of the conversation”. 

[Jetackow]

31 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Bro, respect is earned, not given, and me saying 5-3 playing an all Indy schedule is a good record and is being. “Part of the conversation”. 

SOS matters as it is said. If CP or others go to an all Indy schedule, don’t you think that the team would continue to improve with the right resources? I want to clarify a few things regarding the discussion of scheduling and team performance. First, which “all Indy” team’s schedule are we talking about specifically? The schedules can vary quite a bit, and without clarity, it’s hard to draw meaningful conclusions.

Also, when analyzing a team’s performance, bits and pieces of games you may have seen (whether it was the 1st team, 3rd team, or even the freshman team) don’t provide the complete picture. A fair assessment requires a full understanding of the context of those games.

Lastly, we can agree to disagree on whether that team is “part of the conversation,” but simply throwing out a hypothetical number that doesn’t pertain to the discussion isn’t relevant to the original point I made.

Edited October 14, 2024 by Jetackow

[FastpacedO]

16 hours ago, BTF said:

No one said your precious Indy teams didn't improve. My point...........s**t for brains.............is that the North champion improved from last year (potentially). 

Probably. I'm not ready to dub Lawrence North as good as Ben Davis last year. 

This is what you've resorted to. Nice, tells me all I need to know. Carry on if belittling makes you sleep better at night, it doesn't bother me and I won't stoop to the childish behavior. My point is the Team from the North improved and other teams including a North bracket team improved namely Westfield which was an OT game in Crown Point where does that leave you?

Look you can call out names all you want "Indy Cronies"" blah blah blah. Like @temptation has said multiple times, several of us would love to see a Crown Point get a State Championship. The astronomical statistic for 6A states it won't happen 2 out of 22 teams in 6A finals history have been non-Indy area teams and both were beat by 28 or more points. You don't have to like it and can resort to belittling, but the facts are facts. 

14 hours ago, BTF said:

He's listening to Fastpace for some reason. Love ya Temp, but damn. 

Because I typed the truth.

Coach Buzea taking Crown Point from losing season to 5-5, then 10-1, then 13-1 and State runner-up is commendable nobody is has stated otherwise. Nobody has stated Crown Point is not a good team because they are. I stated it in another post Crown Point brings nothing new that teams like Westfield, Center Grove, Lawrence North, Brownsburg, HSE, Fishers, Ben Davis, or Cathedral don't see every week. However Crown Point does NOT see that every week. 

I can talk about improvements other teams have made if you want. I have Lawrence North as one of top 2 contenders from the South (the Lawrence North vs Cathedral Sectional Championship game will be a doozy). The other team I have is Brownsburg and my only contention in having them as sole favorite to win is their blunders in the post season the last 2 years (they are really good). Cathedral, Warren Central, and Center Grove could snake-bite LN or Brownsburg. As bad as Ben Davis started this season (rebuild entirely on defense and a new OC they are trying to get on the same page with) they played well against Lawrence Central and they still have a terrific RB and playmaker in Zachary.

Westfield from the North will be a tough out played Brownsburg about the best you could play them in that 17-13 loss at Brownsburg. I was at that game and had the Shamrocks not lost their QB to injury they might have pulled off the win. There are some wildcards in the North with HSE who can be very good. Fishers who nobody can figure out what they are. Noblesville who I wouldn't put at the top of any list, but what they do have is a offensive scheme they run very well that limits the other teams possessions and keeps scores much closer than you would expect. That being said I feel the Top 2 are Westfield and Crown Point on a collision course. I think you will see much like last year back and forth and CP's secondary will be put to one of their tougher tests.

You have made comments about New Palestine in other posts about their SOS and Crown Point is no different in that category. Both have great coaches: Coach Buzea 36-7 at CP 252-96 in career, Coach Ralph 134-14 at NP and in career. What has changed on your stance when it comes to schedule here? It seems you are being hypocritical. When I look at the State's Top 6A teams here is what I see:

1. Brownsburg = (SOS) 36.5

2. Lawrence North = (SOS) 24

3. Westfield = (SOS) 38.4

4. Cathedral = (SOS) 40

5. Warren Central = (SOS) 32.8

6. Crown Point = (SOS) 11.4

7. Center Grove = (SOS) 47.3

8. Hamilton Southeastern = (SOS) 33.3

9. Columbus North = (SOS) 39.5

10. Ben Davis = (SOS) 42.5

 

[temptation]

Look, between this and the other thread, I don’t even know what we are even arguing anymore.

Is it that Crown Point is being “slept on” despite the fact that they are undefeated?

I have em at #4 in my rankings, which is admittedly lower than I have seen them elsewhere but is that really the outrage here?

I have watched segments of a couple of their games just as I have multiple other teams and I guess I could make a case to put em at #3 over a 1 loss Westfield team but in my next breath could probably also justify putting a 1 loss Cathedral in front of them based on my respect for Brownsburg.

As mentioned, due to no fault of their own, they are the unknown on this list of contenders (not due to a lack of trying, which is being claimed) simply because as we have more data, they are the only team in that group that has yet to play another team that is considered “elite” for lack of a better term.

I would probably place the Duneland as Indiana’s fourth best conference right now if you placed a gun to my head, but would not argue them being anywhere from 3rd to 6th.

If we wanna play the “Indy schedule” game, let’s give them BD’s schedule as we did others in the opposite thread…I’d be willing to go 6-2 and with a bit of convincing “maybe” 7-1.

It’s too late now, but let’s hope they can replace teams from ARIZONA with a central Indy stalwart in the future.

Merrillville did for years but is still awaiting the return on that investment as they’ve yet to take that next step.

 

Edited October 14, 2024 by temptation

[FastpacedO]

8 hours ago, Jetackow said:

Again, please explain how this has anything to do with what the point of my initial post or follow up posts reiterating it was? And I never said you stated that CP wasn’t part of the equation in your response. I literally went back to my ithe point of my initial post and how you got the number you did. 

@temptation has Crown Point at #4 which is recognition. Where specifically has Crown Point "not" been given recognition. Honestly saying we have to wait and see how they do against a Westfield, HSE, Fishers is not a bad thing. It means there is no real barometer of where they stand fully without seeing them play a calibur of team like Westfield.

7 hours ago, Jetackow said:

SOS matters as it is said. If CP or others go to an all Indy schedule, don’t you think that the team would continue to improve with the right resources? I want to clarify a few things regarding the discussion of scheduling and team performance. First, which “all Indy” team’s schedule are we talking about specifically? The schedules can vary quite a bit, and without clarity, it’s hard to draw meaningful conclusions.

Lastly, we can agree to disagree on whether that team is “part of the conversation,” but simply throwing out a hypothetical number that doesn’t pertain to the discussion isn’t relevant to the original point I made.

I will give you some:

Brownsburg - FW Dwenger, @ Cathedral, @ Franklin Central, Avon, @ Fishers, Westfield, @ Zionsville, Noblesville, @ Hamilton Southeastern (I have Crown Point at 6-3 or 7-2 so far with 1 game remaining Brownsburg is 7-0)

Cathedral  - @ Ben Davis, Brownsburg, @ Cincinnati St. Xavier, @ Chatard, North Central, Center Grove, Roncalli, @ Warren Central (I have Crown Point at 4-4 or 5-3 so far with 1 game remaining Cathedral is 5-2)

Center Grove - Westfield, Carroll (FW), @ Louisville Trinity, @ Ben Davis, Trotwood-Madison OH, Lawrence Central, @ Cathedral, @ Lawrence North, St. Frances Maryland (I have Crown Point at 4-5 or 5-4 so far with 1 game remaining Center Grove is 5-3)

Lawrence North - @ Lawrence Central, @ FW North, @ Wayne OH, North Central, Tech, @ Ben Davis, @ Warren Central, Center Grove, @ Pike (I have Crown Point at 7-2 or 6-3 so far with 1 game remaining Lawrence North is 8-0)

Westfield - @ Center Grove, Carmel, Zionsville, @ Noblesvile, Hamilton Southeastern, @ Brownsburg, Avon, @ Fishers, Franklin Central (I have Crown Point at 6-3 or 7-2 so far with 1 game remaining Westfield is 7-1)

 

 

[Komets2727]

3 hours ago, FastpacedO said:

@temptation has Crown Point at #4 which is recognition. Where specifically has Crown Point "not" been given recognition. Honestly saying we have to wait and see how they do against a Westfield, HSE, Fishers is not a bad thing. It means there is no real barometer of where they stand fully without seeing them play a calibur of team like Westfield.

I will give you some:

Brownsburg - FW Dwenger, @ Cathedral, @ Franklin Central, Avon, @ Fishers, Westfield, @ Zionsville, Noblesville, @ Hamilton Southeastern (I have Crown Point at 6-3 or 7-2 so far with 1 game remaining Brownsburg is 7-0)

Cathedral  - @ Ben Davis, Brownsburg, @ Cincinnati St. Xavier, @ Chatard, North Central, Center Grove, Roncalli, @ Warren Central (I have Crown Point at 4-4 or 5-3 so far with 1 game remaining Cathedral is 5-2)

Center Grove - Westfield, Carroll (FW), @ Louisville Trinity, @ Ben Davis, Trotwood-Madison OH, Lawrence Central, @ Cathedral, @ Lawrence North, St. Frances Maryland (I have Crown Point at 4-5 or 5-4 so far with 1 game remaining Center Grove is 5-3)

Lawrence North - @ Lawrence Central, @ FW North, @ Wayne OH, North Central, Tech, @ Ben Davis, @ Warren Central, Center Grove, @ Pike (I have Crown Point at 7-2 or 6-3 so far with 1 game remaining Lawrence North is 8-0)

Westfield - @ Center Grove, Carmel, Zionsville, @ Noblesvile, Hamilton Southeastern, @ Brownsburg, Avon, @ Fishers, Franklin Central (I have Crown Point at 6-3 or 7-2 so far with 1 game remaining Westfield is 7-1)

 

 

Very good job!!! I was just getting around to doing the same thing

[BTF]

6 hours ago, FastpacedO said:

This is what you've resorted to. Nice, tells me all I need to know. Carry on if belittling makes you sleep better at night, it doesn't bother me and I won't stoop to the childish behavior. My point is the Team from the North improved and other teams including a North bracket team improved namely Westfield which was an OT game in Crown Point where does that leave you?

Look you can call out names all you want "Indy Cronies"" blah blah blah. Like @temptation has said multiple times, several of us would love to see a Crown Point get a State Championship. The astronomical statistic for 6A states it won't happen 2 out of 22 teams in 6A finals history have been non-Indy area teams and both were beat by 28 or more points. You don't have to like it and can resort to belittling, but the facts are facts. 

Because I typed the truth.

Coach Buzea taking Crown Point from losing season to 5-5, then 10-1, then 13-1 and State runner-up is commendable nobody is has stated otherwise. Nobody has stated Crown Point is not a good team because they are. I stated it in another post Crown Point brings nothing new that teams like Westfield, Center Grove, Lawrence North, Brownsburg, HSE, Fishers, Ben Davis, or Cathedral don't see every week. However Crown Point does NOT see that every week. 

I can talk about improvements other teams have made if you want. I have Lawrence North as one of top 2 contenders from the South (the Lawrence North vs Cathedral Sectional Championship game will be a doozy). The other team I have is Brownsburg and my only contention in having them as sole favorite to win is their blunders in the post season the last 2 years (they are really good). Cathedral, Warren Central, and Center Grove could snake-bite LN or Brownsburg. As bad as Ben Davis started this season (rebuild entirely on defense and a new OC they are trying to get on the same page with) they played well against Lawrence Central and they still have a terrific RB and playmaker in Zachary.

Westfield from the North will be a tough out played Brownsburg about the best you could play them in that 17-13 loss at Brownsburg. I was at that game and had the Shamrocks not lost their QB to injury they might have pulled off the win. There are some wildcards in the North with HSE who can be very good. Fishers who nobody can figure out what they are. Noblesville who I wouldn't put at the top of any list, but what they do have is a offensive scheme they run very well that limits the other teams possessions and keeps scores much closer than you would expect. That being said I feel the Top 2 are Westfield and Crown Point on a collision course. I think you will see much like last year back and forth and CP's secondary will be put to one of their tougher tests.

You have made comments about New Palestine in other posts about their SOS and Crown Point is no different in that category. Both have great coaches: Coach Buzea 36-7 at CP 252-96 in career, Coach Ralph 134-14 at NP and in career. What has changed on your stance when it comes to schedule here? It seems you are being hypocritical. When I look at the State's Top 6A teams here is what I see:

1. Brownsburg = (SOS) 36.5

2. Lawrence North = (SOS) 24

3. Westfield = (SOS) 38.4

4. Cathedral = (SOS) 40

5. Warren Central = (SOS) 32.8

6. Crown Point = (SOS) 11.4

7. Center Grove = (SOS) 47.3

8. Hamilton Southeastern = (SOS) 33.3

9. Columbus North = (SOS) 39.5

10. Ben Davis = (SOS) 42.5

 

Damn, shorter post next time, I've got things to do.

You provide a lot of well researched information, I'll give you that. Then just when I'm about to like you, you say something that triggers me. So, just to throw it out there, since you've taken some of what I've said in the past out of context, I don't trust you anymore than I do ABC or NBC. You do your research, yes. You come across as calm and collected, yes. But there's something off. You're like the youngest child who always has something up his sleeve that's hidden from most.

And your "Top Ten" tells me all I need to know. Let's be honest, Columbus North and Ben Davis are no more contenders than Carroll and Snider. You've made snide remarks about Fort Wayne in the past, so why should anyone from NE Indiana trust anything you have to say?

1 hour ago, Komets2727 said:

Very good job!!! I was just getting around to doing the same thing

Good job? That's the biggest batch of horse *&^% I've seen. 

[Jetackow]

6 hours ago, FastpacedO said:

I will give you some:

6 hours ago, temptation said:

Look, between this and the other thread, I don’t even know what we are even arguing anymore

I agree @temptation. And I appreciate the explanation from both you and @FastpacedO when you explained the numbers, I was just trying to see where they came from. While my initial post was about CP,  that doesn’t mean I’m rooting for them to win it all or even think they will. My main goal was to express some frustration with the way 6A football teams are throughout Indiana.

My job gives me the chance to see all the 6A teams across the state, so I’m familiar with the ins and outs of the Indy teams, and they are indeed amazing. In fact, there are also some outstanding non-6A teams around Indy, with young athletes doing incredible things. These teams have been a big part of the conversation for years, which was the main point I was trying to highlight.

I didn’t mean for this discussion to get dragged out, or to make it seem like I’m favoring one team over another—because I’m honestly not. Do I think CP has improved? Absolutely. Do I think they’ll make it to state? I have no idea. I just wanted to share my thoughts on the broader conversation about these teams. Thanks for hearing me out! And wow, I did not realize what a conundrum this would stir!

 

6 hours ago, temptation said:

It’s too late now, but let’s hope they can replace teams from ARIZONA with a central Indy stalwart in the future

And yes, I think this would be good for a team that wants to make a name for themselves.

[FastpacedO]

2 hours ago, BTF said:

Damn, shorter post next time, I've got things to do.

You provide a lot of well researched information, I'll give you that. Then just when I'm about to like you, you say something that triggers me. So, just to throw it out there, since you've taken some of what I've said in the past out of context, I don't trust you anymore than I do ABC or NBC. You do your research, yes. You come across as calm and collected, yes. But there's something off. You're like the youngest child who always has something up his sleeve that's hidden from most.

And your "Top Ten" tells me all I need to know. Let's be honest, Columbus North and Ben Davis are no more contenders than Carroll and Snider. You've made snide remarks about Fort Wayne in the past, so why should anyone from NE Indiana trust anything you have to say?

Good job? That's the biggest batch of horse *&^% I've seen. 

Again, I won't stoop to your level. Nice try though.

Where did I state it was "my Top 10". I gave you the Top 10 teams for 6A listed by Calpreps nothing more nothing less not my Top 10 (see blow). I'll let you get back to your digging, your fury blinds you.

 

[Komets2727]

3 hours ago, BTF said:

Damn, shorter post next time, I've got things to do.

You provide a lot of well researched information, I'll give you that. Then just when I'm about to like you, you say something that triggers me. So, just to throw it out there, since you've taken some of what I've said in the past out of context, I don't trust you anymore than I do ABC or NBC. You do your research, yes. You come across as calm and collected, yes. But there's something off. You're like the youngest child who always has something up his sleeve that's hidden from most.

And your "Top Ten" tells me all I need to know. Let's be honest, Columbus North and Ben Davis are no more contenders than Carroll and Snider. You've made snide remarks about Fort Wayne in the past, so why should anyone from NE Indiana trust anything you have to say?

Good job? That's the biggest batch of horse *&^% I've seen. 

My good job remark is in response to the schedules of the Indy schools and what record CP might have playing those schedules. CP would not be 8-0 right now, not even close. I think that is an accurate assessment. Other stuff said, I am with you

[BTF]

10 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

My good job remark is in response to the schedules of the Indy schools and what record CP might have playing those schedules. CP would not be 8-0 right now, not even close. I think that is an accurate assessment. Other stuff said, I am with you

Three losses seems to be the consensus for Crown Point, it's all speculation. It's really not even worth the conversation. There is no way of knowing how Crown Point would fare with an all Indy schedule. Do I think CP would be 8-0? Probably not. Do I think they'd have three or four losses? Lol, there's NO way of knowing, there just isn't. "Other posters" state CP's speculated losses as fact. They have a great program under Buzea, and honestly, I don't think the Indy contingent is ready for the idea that there might be a team up north who are better than they are. 

[temptation]

34 minutes ago, BTF said:

Three losses seems to be the consensus for Crown Point, it's all speculation. It's really not even worth the conversation. There is no way of knowing how Crown Point would fare with an all Indy schedule. Do I think CP would be 8-0? Probably not. Do I think they'd have three or four losses? Lol, there's NO way of knowing, there just isn't. "Other posters" state CP's speculated losses as fact. They have a great program under Buzea, and honestly, I don't think the Indy contingent is ready for the idea that there might be a team up north who are better than they are. 

 

35 minutes ago, BTF said:

Three losses seems to be the consensus for Crown Point, it's all speculation. It's really not even worth the conversation. There is no way of knowing how Crown Point would fare with an all Indy schedule. Do I think CP would be 8-0? Probably not. Do I think they'd have three or four losses? Lol, there's NO way of knowing, there just isn't. "Other posters" state CP's speculated losses as fact. They have a great program under Buzea, and honestly, I don't think the Indy contingent is ready for the idea that there might be a team up north who are better than they are. 

 

[Komets2727]

1 hour ago, BTF said:

Three losses seems to be the consensus for Crown Point, it's all speculation. It's really not even worth the conversation. There is no way of knowing how Crown Point would fare with an all Indy schedule. Do I think CP would be 8-0? Probably not. Do I think they'd have three or four losses? Lol, there's NO way of knowing, there just isn't. "Other posters" state CP's speculated losses as fact. They have a great program under Buzea, and honestly, I don't think the Indy contingent is ready for the idea that there might be a team up north who are better than they are. 

That’s what happens when a media guy gets on here and says he “knows” stuff and twists and turns stuff around. CP is great playing the schedule they play, but for people to tout them as a 6A state champion team based on them playing a very mediocre schedule to be kind, is crazy and reeks of that poster as having an agenda. Just because he travels a bit to see games doesn’t mean he has a good pulse on what is going on.

Touting MAC recruits as being somewhat equal to Power 5 recruits stinks. I have watched tons of high school football over the years, as I am sure you have, and I have been very accurate in my assessments of different teams, whether in Indy or anywhere else in the state of Indiana. CP is a good team, no doubt, but I have seen many a team from the North at the 6A level have trouble competing when it counts. Snider has generally competed very well with 6A teams over the last 40 years, they are an outlier however. Tell me another North team that has. As much respect as I have for Penn, they have not done well vs. 6A Indy teams. Maybe CP is that team, but they are going to have prove it, earn it, and own it before anyone gives it to them, especially me. 

As far as Indy bias goes, it is deserved at the 6A level right now. You can’t argue that. Every other level, there should not be an Indy bias as the North has more than held their own over the years. Doesn’t mean that certain posters still try and push that bias, like a couple did a few weeks ago and said the South would be 6-0 vs. the North in state title games this year. BS on that, if someone wants to put some cash on that happening please let me know cause I will gladly take your money as my grandkids would love additional presents because of that generosity.
 

Edited October 14, 2024 by Komets2727

[FastpacedO]

3 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

My good job remark is in response to the schedules of the Indy schools and what record CP might have playing those schedules. CP would not be 8-0 right now, not even close. I think that is an accurate assessment. Other stuff said, I am with you

It’s all good, apparently when you ask “Shouldn’t Dwenger have better record than 1-8 to be considered on equal footing” means you have a vendetta against all of Fort Wayne. 

 

3 hours ago, BTF said:

I don't think the Indy contingent is ready for the idea that there might be a team up north who are better than they are. 

Nah, just put up or shut up, until then the statistics speak for themselves.

[Komets2727]

8 minutes ago, FastpacedO said:

It’s all good, apparently when you ask “Shouldn’t Dwenger have better record than 1-8 to be considered on equal footing” means you have a vendetta against all of Fort Wayne. 

 

Nah, just put up or shut up, until then the statistics speak for themselves.

What the Hell does Dwenger have to do with my statement? Reading comprehension might be an issue here

[RegionFBFan]

2 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

That’s what happens when a media guy gets on here and says he “knows” stuff and twists and turns stuff around. CP is great playing the schedule they play, but for people to tout them as a 6A state champion team based on them playing a very mediocre schedule to be kind, is crazy and reeks of that poster as having an agenda. Just because he travels a bit to see games doesn’t mean he has a good pulse on what is going on.

Touting MAC recruits as being somewhat equal to Power 5 recruits stinks. I have watched tons of high school football over the years, as I am sure you have, and I have been very accurate in my assessments of different teams, whether in Indy or anywhere else in the state of Indiana. CP is a good team, no doubt, but I have seen many a team from the North at the 6A level have trouble competing when it counts. Snider has generally competed very well with 6A teams over the last 40 years, they are an outlier however. Tell me another North team that has. As much respect as I have for Penn, they have not done well vs. 6A Indy teams. Maybe CP is that team, but they are going to have prove it, earn it, and own it before anyone gives it to them, especially me. 

As far as Indy bias goes, it is deserved at the 6A level right now. You can’t argue that. Every other level, there should not be an Indy bias as the North has more than held their own over the years. Doesn’t mean that certain posters still try and push that bias, like a couple did a few weeks ago and said the South would be 6-0 vs. the North in state title games this year. BS on that, if someone wants to put some cash on that happening please let me know cause I will gladly take your money as my grandkids would love additional presents because of that generosity.
 

Touting MAC recruits?? You’re an idiot!! Read the post moron. A poster asked how many D1 kids does CP have. I answered with those that I know of. Period. Read the chain before you spew your crap!

[Komets2727]

1 hour ago, RegionFBFan said:

Touting MAC recruits?? You’re an idiot!! Read the post moron. A poster asked how many D1 kids does CP have. I answered with those that I know of. Period. Read the chain before you spew your crap!

Exactly what you did tool. Move along

[Jetackow]

4 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

That’s what happens when a media guy gets on here and says he “knows” stuff and twists and turns stuff around

I hope this isn’t in reference to me as I am not some media guy. In fact, I do nothing in regards to the media. If I told you my name and you asked the 6A coaches what they knew about me, I would guarantee over 85% would be able to tell you all about me and my visits with them and some of their players. Don’t assume 

Edited October 15, 2024 by Jetackow

[Jetackow]

4 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

. CP is great playing the schedule they play, but for people to tout them as a 6A state champion team based on them playing a very mediocre schedule to be kind, is crazy and reeks of that poster as having an agenda.

Again, I never said they were a state champ team, reread my posts. You must have mistaken me for someone else as I never stated they would even beat certain teams or should have a certain record or anything of that sort. You miscomprehended the point of my initial post which I reiterated numerous times.

Edited October 15, 2024 by Jetackow

[BTF]

11 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

1) That’s what happens when a media guy gets on here and says he “knows” stuff and twists and turns stuff around. CP is great playing the schedule they play, but for people to tout them as a 6A state champion team based on them playing a very mediocre schedule to be kind, is crazy 

2) CP is a good team, no doubt, but I have seen many a team from the North at the 6A level have trouble competing when it counts. Snider has generally competed very well with 6A teams over the last 40 years, they are an outlier however. Tell me another North team that has.

3) As far as Indy bias goes, it is deserved at the 6A level right now. You can’t argue that.

4) if someone wants to put some cash on that happening please let me know cause I will gladly take your money as my grandkids would love additional presents because of that generosity.
 

1)  I'm not sure anyone touted them as the state champ, not saying I'm right, just need the receipt. 

2) This is CP's year, not Snider's. With a stagnated student enrollment at 1800 with no signs of growth, the new norm in Northern Indiana will likely go through Crown Point and Carroll (given Buzea and Dinan stick around.)

3)  Absolutely. I'm not betting on an even up win for the north anytime soon. But to state that THIS YEAR'S Crown Point Team would have three or four losses on their schedule as FACT is still a little bit of bias. Sorry, it just is. 

4)  I don't mind a friendly bet. I'll take Crown Point against Westfield this year. Give me 10 points since it's been decided that Indy is still light years ahead of anyone up north. Gimmie 14 points when CP takes on Lawrence North. I think that's fair. 

10 hours ago, FastpacedO said:

It’s all good, apparently when you ask “Shouldn’t Dwenger have better record than 1-8 to be considered on equal footing” means you have a vendetta against all of Fort Wayne. 

 

Nah, just put up or shut up, until then the statistics speak for themselves.

Lol, so you are from Indy, glad we got that out of the way. 

[temptation]

43 minutes ago, BTF said:

1)  I'm not sure anyone touted them as the state champ, not saying I'm right, just need the receipt. 

2) This is CP's year, not Snider's. With a stagnated student enrollment at 1800 with no signs of growth, the new norm in Northern Indiana will likely go through Crown Point and Carroll (given Buzea and Dinan stick around.)

3)  Absolutely. I'm not betting on an even up win for the north anytime soon. But to state that THIS YEAR'S Crown Point Team would have three or four losses on their schedule as FACT is still a little bit of bias. Sorry, it just is. 

4)  I don't mind a friendly bet. I'll take Crown Point against Westfield this year. Give me 10 points since it's been decided that Indy is still light years ahead of anyone up north. Gimmie 14 points when CP takes on Lawrence North. I think that's fair. 

Lol, so you are from Indy, glad we got that out of the way. 

Rookie.  Everyone knows you go 10.5 and 14.5 on those wagers…😉

Edited October 15, 2024 by temptation

[BTF]

14 minutes ago, temptation said:

Rookie.  Everyone knows you go 10.5 and 14.5 on those wagers…😉

Rookie? I'll take it! Can't say that I'm a seasoned gambler. 

[temptation]

4 minutes ago, BTF said:

Rookie? I'll take it! Can't say that I'm a seasoned gambler. 

Yep.  “Rookie” shouldn’t seem so bad compared so some of the names being called in this thread.

Yikes man.