The Joe Biden Presidency Thread

[temptation]

35 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

So two wrongs make a right?  Oh yeah, uniparty.

 

Nah, just pointing out the latest in the left’s hypocrisy…

Here is another.

[Muda69]

President Biden’s Magical Thinking in the Middle East: https://www.cato.org/blog/president-bidens-magical-thinking-middle-east

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According to a new report in the Wall Street Journal, the Biden administration is close to finalizing a proposed treaty with Saudi Arabia that would include a formal US security guarantee for the kingdom and assistance from the United States in facilitating a civilian nuclear program, if Riyadh normalizes relations with Israel.

The treaty, the “Strategic Alliance Agreement,” is supposedly modeled on Washington’s security pact with other partners, such as Japan and South Korea, and would therefore require a two‐thirds majority vote in the Senate for approval. However, Saudi Arabia has insisted that to move forward Israel must end its military campaign in Gaza and rhetorically commit to a “pathway” toward a two‐state solution with Palestinians, something Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly rejected.

Though its future is uncertain, this effort by Washington should be denounced for what it is: an extension of a failed US Middle East policy.

President Biden’s unceasing drive for this “mega‐deal” is rooted in the same magical thinking that has repeatedly brought the United States to ruin in the Middle East. This deal would achieve nothing for the United States, binding our regional policies to a principal source of instability in the Middle East, while planting the seeds for future disorder.

Saudi Arabia is not an ally—no amount of concessions to the kingdom will change this. Failure to abandon this disastrous agenda risks formalizing Washington’s commitment to a cycle of turmoil that will continue to impact the region—and undermine US interests—for generations.

Is it still all about the oil?

 

[Muda69]

https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-gun-trial-federal-charges-delaware-5dd8a9380235c6360a1ddb691ef24a06

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Hunter Biden was convicted Tuesday of all three felony charges related to the purchase of a revolver in 2018 when, prosecutors argued, the president’s son lied on a mandatory gun-purchase form by saying he was not illegally using or addicted to drugs.

Hunter Biden stared straight ahead and showed little emotion as the verdict was read after jury deliberations that lasted only three hours over two days. He hugged his attorneys, smiled wanly and kissed his wife, Melissa, before leaving the courtroom with her.

President Joe Biden issued a statement shortly after the verdict, saying he would accept the outcome of the case and “continue to respect the judicial process as Hunter considers an appeal.”

Now Hunter Biden and presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, the president’s chief political rival, have both been convicted by American jurors in an election year that has been as much about the courtroom as about campaign events and rallies.

 

Hunter Biden faces up to 25 years in prison when he is sentenced by U.S. District Judge Maryellen Noreika, though first-time offenders do not get anywhere near the maximum, and it’s unclear whether she would give him time behind bars. The judge did not set a sentencing date.

“No one in this country is above the law,” special counsel David Weiss, the prosecutor who has led the long-running federal investigation into the president’s son, told reporters after the verdict. “Everyone must be accountable for their actions.”

 

 

Hunter Biden’s lawyer, Abbe Lowell, suggested they would appeal, saying they will “continue to vigorously pursue all the legal challenges available.” In a written statement, Hunter Biden said he was disappointed by the outcome but grateful for the support of family and friends.

The jury’s decision was read swiftly after an announcement that jurors had reached a verdict. First lady Jill Biden and some other family members who sat through much of the trial did not make it into the courtroom in time to hear the jury’s decision. After the verdict, Hunter Biden left the courthouse holding hands with the first lady and his wife. They did not speak to reporters, got into waiting SUVs and drove off.

Joe Biden steered clear of the federal courtroom in Delaware where his son was tried and said little about the case, wary of creating an impression of interfering in a criminal matter brought by his own Justice Department. But allies of the Democrat have worried about the toll that the trial — and now the conviction — will take on the 81-year-old, who has long been concerned with his only living son’s health and sustained sobriety.

Hunter Biden and Trump have both argued they were victimized by the politics of the moment. But while Trump has continued to falsely claim the verdict was “rigged,” Joe Biden has said he would accept the verdict and would not seek to pardon his son.

The president said in his statement Tuesday that he and the first lady will always be there for their son with “love and support.”

“So many families who have had loved ones battle addiction understand the feeling of pride seeing someone you love come out the other side and be so strong and resilient in recovery,” President Biden said. Hunter Biden has said he’s been sober since 2019.

The president was scheduled to give a speech on his administration’s efforts to limit gun violence at a conference hosted by the Everytown for Gun Safety Action Fund in Washington. After the verdict was announced, the White House canceled press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre’s scheduled briefing and announced that Biden would spend Tuesday evening with family in Delaware. He leaves Wednesday for the Group of Seven leaders conference in Italy.

Jurors found Hunter Biden guilty of lying to a federally licensed gun dealer, making a false claim on the application by saying he was not a drug user and illegally having the gun for 11 days.

And his legal troubles aren’t over. He faces a trial in September in California on charges of failing to pay $1.4 million in taxes, and congressional Republicans have signaled they will keep going after him in their stalled impeachment effort into the president. The president has not been accused or charged with any wrongdoing by prosecutors investigating his son.

The prosecution devoted much of the trial to highlighting the seriousness of Hunter Biden’s drug problem, through highly personal testimony and embarrassing evidence.

These convictions just highlight the abject failure of our uni-part.. errr two-party political system.

 

[swordfish]

I will agree with your summation Muda.  Political.

Is the point that NY State actually changed an existing law, then manipulated the charges brought from a misdemeanor state charge to a felony, then hand-picked an impartial judge missed by everybody?  That conviction WAS a political maneuver from the Biden DOJ that nobody can ever convince SF otherwise.

The Hunter Biden conviction would never had happened if the sweetheart plea deal offered by the special counsel (Biden DOJ again) would have went through and got past the Federal Judge appointed by Trump.

[temptation]

1 hour ago, swordfish said:

I will agree with your summation Muda.  Political.

Is the point that NY State actually changed an existing law, then manipulated the charges brought from a misdemeanor state charge to a felony, then hand-picked an impartial judge missed by everybody?  That conviction WAS a political maneuver from the Biden DOJ that nobody can ever convince SF otherwise.

The Hunter Biden conviction would never had happened if the sweetheart plea deal offered by the special counsel (Biden DOJ again) would have went through and got past the Federal Judge appointed by Trump.

This verdict is a smoke screen.  They’ll use this verdict to justify an “unbiased judicial system.”

This gun charge is just the tip of the iceberg with this guy.

They may even go as far as to use this to justify punishing Trump with jail time.

[Muda69]

From a weekly newsletter I subscribe to:

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There is now talk going around that the Dems will not replace Biden as their candidate, but will replace Harris with Hillary Clinton. The belief is that Biden could not make it through a second term and the VP will take over. Nobody in the country wants or likes Harris and the party does not want her to be the first female US President, that role was already reserved for Clinton, a real fan favorite amongst liberal women and gay men. In fact she was a presenter at the Tony Awards last Sunday to a thunderous standing ovation of the Broadway elite.

The possibility still exists that Biden will fail so miserably at the debate with Trump (if it is allowed to proceed) then Hillary will take his place as the Presidential candidate. That scenario creates all sorts of issues because it means a “straight” white woman will be pushed into place over a POC in Kamala Harris making the party look racist. The party looks racist by dropping in Clinton as VP, but not ridiculously so. Besides, some sort of emergency or accident might sideline Harris and her replacement being another woman seems less offensive.

Also putting Clinton in the top spot requires a different VP anyway as the party is not going to have two women running as it is unbalanced. So Harris would be ousted then too. If Biden was replaced with Gavin Newsom, you still have a problem with Harris. Thus moving out Harris from the get-go is the most effective maneuver. When analyzing the original Harris choice for VP in 2020, you have to conclude she was the equivalent of a “poison pill” put in place to assure Biden remains at the top of the ticket. She makes complex changes difficult.

That said, the Democratic Party has no real problem swapping out VP's. Roosevelt, for example, had three different VP's, Garner, Wallace and Truman. So getting rid of Kamala has precedent.

 

[swordfish]

JUST IN - Due to the economy and the rate of inflation, the sexual position formerly know as '69' will now be '96'......🤣

 

[temptation]

Joe sticking it out for now…lol.

Vivek has been spot on since day 1.

 

[swordfish]

Biden's "Big Boy" press conference this evening - his first in 2 years.......SMH

I would have never imagined (when this thread started with a couple knuckleheads celebrating while we were predicting Mr. Biden wouldn't last 6 months before a geriatric episode took him out) that today the term "Big Boy" would be used to describe a Presidential press conference......

Again - as I said at the start of this thread - There is no way on God's Green Earth this President (legally) garnered more votes than any other President in history....No way.

https://nypost.com/2024/07/11/us-news/bidens-high-stakes-big-boy-press-conference-delayed-so-it-might-miss-evening-news-broadcasts/

White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre has repeatedly referred to the event as a “big boy” press conference where many reporters will be called upon — with the phrase irking some fellow West Wing staffers, who view it as infantilizing the commander-in-chief.

Biden advocates hope he will provide a lucid and forceful defense of his performance and plans for another four-year term — as he did during his annual State of the Union speech to Congress in March — but fear that anything less will further sink his viability.

The president told Democratic governors at the White House last week that after the debate, he had decided to prevent recurrences of his on-stage issues by avoiding public events after 8 p.m.  So much for him being awake for that "3 O'Clock in the morning emergency call from a head of state.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/hillary-clintons-2008-3-am-phone-call-ad/2016/09/30/a1043ef6-8729-11e6-b57d-dd49277af02f_video.html

[temptation]

4 hours ago, swordfish said:

Biden's "Big Boy" press conference this evening - his first in 2 years.......SMH

I would have never imagined (when this thread started with a couple knuckleheads celebrating while we were predicting Mr. Biden wouldn't last 6 months before a geriatric episode took him out) that today the term "Big Boy" would be used to describe a Presidential press conference......

Again - as I said at the start of this thread - There is no way on God's Green Earth this President (legally) garnered more votes than any other President in history....No way.

https://nypost.com/2024/07/11/us-news/bidens-high-stakes-big-boy-press-conference-delayed-so-it-might-miss-evening-news-broadcasts/

White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre has repeatedly referred to the event as a “big boy” press conference where many reporters will be called upon — with the phrase irking some fellow West Wing staffers, who view it as infantilizing the commander-in-chief.

Biden advocates hope he will provide a lucid and forceful defense of his performance and plans for another four-year term — as he did during his annual State of the Union speech to Congress in March — but fear that anything less will further sink his viability.

The president told Democratic governors at the White House last week that after the debate, he had decided to prevent recurrences of his on-stage issues by avoiding public events after 8 p.m.  So much for him being awake for that "3 O'Clock in the morning emergency call from a head of state.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/hillary-clintons-2008-3-am-phone-call-ad/2016/09/30/a1043ef6-8729-11e6-b57d-dd49277af02f_video.html

And he used a teleprompter and had a list of pre approved media members to call on…AGAIN.

Edited July 12, 2024 by temptation

[swordfish]

1)  First mistake - Pretty sure his handler had told him not to let anybody see his pre-determined list of reporters he was supposed to call on during his "Unscripted" "Big Boy" news conference.

2)  Second mistake - Pretty sure Former President Trump is NOT his Vice President like President Biden stated while answering the first question.

3)  Actually impressed he was able to stay kinda coherent for the entire performance.

4)  Still want to know who is really running the Executive Branch.....

[Impartial_Observer]

44 minutes ago, swordfish said:

1)  First mistake - Pretty sure his handler had told him not to let anybody see his pre-determined list of reporters he was supposed to call on during his "Unscripted" "Big Boy" news conference.

2)  Second mistake - Pretty sure Former President Trump is NOT his Vice President like President Biden stated while answering the first question.

3)  Actually impressed he was able to stay kinda coherent for the entire performance.

4)  Still want to know who is really running the Executive Branch.....

I’ve been wondering that for four years. I think it’s become abundantly clear that his family is, and their addiction to power is gross. I think it’s going to be fascinating to read the history of his presidency, the inner workings. You know there will be a slew of books. 
Also of note Republicans, if you were running ANYONE but Trump this thing would already be over. You guys must enjoy losing to vegetables, Trump is currently 1-3 in elections. 

[temptation]

3 hours ago, swordfish said:

1)  First mistake - Pretty sure his handler had told him not to let anybody see his pre-determined list of reporters he was supposed to call on during his "Unscripted" "Big Boy" news conference.

2)  Second mistake - Pretty sure Former President Trump is NOT his Vice President like President Biden stated while answering the first question.

3)  Actually impressed he was able to stay kinda coherent for the entire performance.

4)  Still want to know who is really running the Executive Branch.....

Watching these clowns in the media who covered for this guy for the last 5 years flip flop and eat themselves acting “surprised” now that this is out in the open is so damn rich.

To point #3, he was just coherent enough last night to keep em guessing.

[temptation]

I think we all owe Mr. Biden an apology…

[swordfish]

In case anyone forgets - Yet, the riots in the cities after George Floyd was OK?

https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/biden-insists-we-are-not-enemies-calls-for-unity-after-trump-assassination-attempt-in-rare-oval-office-address/

“Violence has never been the answer, whether it’s been with members of both parties being targeted and shot, or a violent mob attacking the Capitol on Jan. 6, or a brutal attack on the spouse of former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, or intimidation of election officials, or a kidnapping plot against a sitting governor or an attempted assassination on Donald Trump,” Biden said.

“There is no place in America for this kind of violence — for any violence ever, period, no exceptions. We cannot allow this violence to be normalized.”

[temptation]

2 hours ago, swordfish said:

In case anyone forgets - Yet, the riots in the cities after George Floyd was OK?

https://nypost.com/2024/07/14/us-news/biden-insists-we-are-not-enemies-calls-for-unity-after-trump-assassination-attempt-in-rare-oval-office-address/

“Violence has never been the answer, whether it’s been with members of both parties being targeted and shot, or a violent mob attacking the Capitol on Jan. 6, or a brutal attack on the spouse of former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, or intimidation of election officials, or a kidnapping plot against a sitting governor or an attempted assassination on Donald Trump,” Biden said.

“There is no place in America for this kind of violence — for any violence ever, period, no exceptions. We cannot allow this violence to be normalized.”

Rules for me…rules for thee.

Pull the quotes.

[swordfish]

On 7/13/2024 at 8:59 AM, temptation said:

I think we all owe Mr. Biden an apology…

So will Covid be the "Lord God Almighty" telling Biden to exit the race?

[Muda69]

Democrats making a fresh push for Biden to reconsider running in runup to their own party convention: https://apnews.com/article/biden-democrats-drop-out-election-2024-3f9e3d15431fd4974771a54e1d0e4ea7

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Democrats worried about President Joe Biden’s ability to win this November are making a renewed push for him to reconsider his reelection bid, using mountains of data, frank conversations and now, his own time off the campaign trail after testing positive for COVID, to encourage a reassessment.

Biden has insisted he is not backing down, adamant that he is the candidate who beat Republican Donald Trump before and will do it again this year. But publicly and privately, key Democrats are sending signals of concern, and some hope he will assess the trajectory of the race and his legacy during this few days’ pause.

Over the past week, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries have spoken privately to the president, candidly laying out the views of Democrats on Capitol Hill, including their concerns.

 

Separately, the chair of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, Rep. Suzan DelBene of Washington, spoke with the president last week armed with fresh data. The campaign chief specifically aired the concerns of frontline Democrats who are seeking election to the House.

And on Wednesday, California Rep. Adam Schiff, a close ally of Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi, became the highest-profile House Democrat to call for Biden to drop his reelection bid, saying that while the decision is Biden’s alone to make, he believes it’s time to “pass the torch.”

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Late Wednesday, ABC News reported new details about Biden’s private meeting over the weekend with Schumer at the president’s beach home in Delaware. It said Schumer told the president it would be “better for the Democratic Party, and better for the country if he were to bow out.”

 

A Schumer spokesperson called the report “idle speculation. Leader Schumer conveyed the views of his caucus directly to President Biden on Saturday.”

White House spokesman Andrew Bates said Biden told Schumer, as well as Jeffries, that “he is the nominee of the party, he plans to win, and looks forward to working with both of them to pass his 100 days agenda to help working families.”

 

But among Democrats nationwide, nearly two-thirds say Biden should step aside and let his party nominate a different candidate, according to a new AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll. That sharply undercuts Biden’s post-debate claim that “average Democrats” are still with him even if some “big names” are turning on him.

Biden tested positive for COVID-19 while traveling Wednesday in Las Vegas and is experiencing “mild symptoms” including “general malaise” from the infection, the White House said.

The president, who has spent the past several days campaigning, had already been scheduled to return to his Delaware beach home even before the diagnosis.

Schiff’s announcement brings to nearly 20 the number of Democratic members of Congress calling on Biden to withdraw from the presidential race in the wake of his dismal debate performance against Trump last month.

Schiff said that by bowing out, Biden would “secure his legacy of leadership by allowing us to defeat Donald Trump in the upcoming election.”

Schiff is a prominent Democrat on his own, and his statement will also be watched because of his proximity to Pelosi.

It was Pelosi who revived questions about Biden post-debate, when she said recently that “it’s up to the president” to decide what to do — even though Biden had already fully stated he had no intention of stepping aside. The former House speaker publicly supports the president, but has fielded calls from Democrats since debate night questioning what’s next.

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This Covid diagnosis sure is convenient................

 

[temptation]

1 hour ago, swordfish said:

So will Covid be the "Lord God Almighty" telling Biden to exit the race?

Yep, works on two levels.

1.  Covid is still very serious.

2.  Joe is exiting the race with dignity.

[swordfish]

49 minutes ago, temptation said:

Yep, works on two levels.

1.  Covid is still very serious.  Any virus (more importantly the "entity of excitement" virus) is serious especially to the elderly.

2.  Joe is exiting the race with dignity.  That "entity of excitement" sure looked effective last evening while entering and exiting AF 1.

So the question becomes - Will his replacement be the current VP, (if so, who would she choose as a running mate) or will the party toss her out as well and bring someone else in?

[temptation]

43 minutes ago, swordfish said:

So the question becomes - Will his replacement be the current VP, (if so, who would she choose as a running mate) or will the party toss her out as well and bring someone else in?

It’s gotta be her.  Then they gotta find someone who checks another diversity/identity politics button and they are all set.

[swordfish]

Harris/Obama?

Harris/Clinton?

Harris/Omar?

Harris/Cortez?

I guess who in their right mind would want to team up with her in this election?

Edited July 18, 2024 by swordfish

[temptation]

2 minutes ago, swordfish said:

Harris/Obama?

Harris/Clinton?

Harris/Omar?

Harris/Cortez?

I guess who in their right mind would want to team up with her in this election?

Don’t forget mayor Pete.  

[Impartial_Observer]

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Don’t forget mayor Pete.  

Mayor Pete couldn’t lead a line of ants to a bowl of jello. 

[temptation]

55 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said:

Mayor Pete couldn’t lead a line of ants to a bowl of jello. 

Neither could Kamala but here we are.

Also, how about Joy Reid comparing Biden’s potential recovery from Covid to Trump’s survival of an assassination attempt, lol?