dazed and confused Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 I have visions of Coach Junction Boy trampled by the tuba player ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuccaguy Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Overall, BOTH the Band Director and the Cops were in the wrong! BD should have ended the music (as the home team did). It was told to the schools that a 5th quarter of playing was prohibited by the school ...and I assume conference. Then let's factor in the 'safety' concerns of having children there AFTER the crowd has exited the stadium. Not a good idea in any way/shape/fashion or form. Far too many 'outsiders'....I am hesitant to say perhaps Adults. Get caught up in the rapture of the festivities, and cannot make a delineation in the atmoshpere of what is supposed to be an educationally activity.... HS Sports! Band rivalries are the same as on field play, and they cannot see the differences. So to this situation, I say. Shame on EVERYONE! I can't and won't support the BD. AND I damned sure won't support the Cops' in their actions to remove the BD. Just wrap his ass up and relocate him; Don't tase him. Time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Yuccaguy said: Overall, BOTH the Band Director and the Cops were in the wrong! BD should have ended the music (as the home team did). It was told to the schools that a 5th quarter of playing was prohibited by the school ...and I assume conference. Then let's factor in the 'safety' concerns of having children there AFTER the crowd has exited the stadium. Not a good idea in any way/shape/fashion or form. Far too many 'outsiders'....I am hesitant to say perhaps Adults. Get caught up in the rapture of the festivities, and cannot make a delineation in the atmoshpere of what is supposed to be an educationally activity.... HS Sports! Band rivalries are the same as on field play, and they cannot see the differences. So to this situation, I say. Shame on EVERYONE! I can't and won't support the BD. AND I damned sure won't support the Cops' in their actions to remove the BD. Just wrap his ass up and relocate him; Don't tase him. Time to move on. Is there a video somewhere? How do we know if the cop was in the right or the wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuccaguy Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BTF said: Is there a video somewhere? How do we know if the cop was in the right or the wrong? All over the place, CNN, You Tube..... easy to find https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/09/20/band-director-johnny-mims-birmingham-alabama-speaks-out-cnntm-vpx.cnn Edited September 20, 2023 by Yuccaguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuccaguy Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, BTF said: Is there a video somewhere? How do we know if the cop was in the right or the wrong? They had the lights turned off.... He kept conducting (smugly). They didn't need to taste him... Just wrap him up, and remove him from the premises. Would have saved the taxpayers the money that is sure to come from the impending lawsuit, and alleged violation of his rights. There was in place a NO 5th quarter situation with the bands playing. He was well aware of this, as well as the home school's BD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuccaguy Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 On 9/19/2023 at 9:58 AM, oldtimeqb said: I feel like I have heard an opposite story from other officials. The head coach ASKED for a flag post-halftime so he justify his complaint to the AD about the band. Presumably there was a personal beef between the HC and Band Director. Which wouldn't be the first time. Been there, done that. Not to give anything away. But it was a "Big Orange Band"... HILARIOUS when the HC lost his mind, and the AD was there to get all up in the BD's butt also. I just did what was asked of me..... 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuccaguy Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 42 minutes ago, dazed and confused said: I have visions of Coach Junction Boy trampled by the tuba player ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 42 minutes ago, Yuccaguy said: All over the place, CNN, You Tube..... easy to find https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/09/20/band-director-johnny-mims-birmingham-alabama-speaks-out-cnntm-vpx.cnn I don't see any actual footage of the tasing. The video shows screaming in the beginning, then the cops telling him to go. I'm curious what happened in the moment that he was tased. Am I missing something. He seems like a great guy, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. But I feel that we're missing relevant footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Tried editing my last post.................. That link doesn't show anything. I did, however, find a video that showed the actual tasing. Abuse of power. I agree, he could have been wrapped up. I think the band director could have handled the situation in a MUCH better way, but didn't deserve to be tased. Now, looking at it from a cops point of view. Should a cop have to engage in a physical altercation? Tasing does seem easier. Doing what the cop says just seems to be the better decision in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuccaguy Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 8 hours ago, BTF said: Tried editing my last post.................. That link doesn't show anything. I did, however, find a video that showed the actual tasing. Abuse of power. I agree, he could have been wrapped up. I think the band director could have handled the situation in a MUCH better way, but didn't deserve to be tased. Now, looking at it from a cops point of view. Should a cop have to engage in a physical altercation? Tasing does seem easier. Doing what the cop says just seems to be the better decision in my opinion. Agreed. Which is why this one is a conundrum. The tasing is unwarranted, no question about that. Just wrap him up.and escort him out. Also, at the point of a confrontation... the BD should, as an educated man. Been aware of the nature of his inaction and just stopped the band. At that point he could have later sought a change in policies. At this point. The change will be simple! Game over...everything is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 cut the band half-time shows cut half time add a fifth-quarter or whatever the hell you call 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 47 minutes ago, Rodney said: cut the band half-time shows cut half time add a fifth-quarter or whatever the hell you call 5 What about pre-game warmups? Eliminate those and we have time for 6 quarters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 26 minutes ago, BTF said: What about pre-game warmups? Eliminate those and we have time for 6 quarters. 6 quarters is a little much in one night dont ya think I'd prefer to run 2 games a week instead Friday saturday vs the same team And all playoffs go to a best of three on friday saturday sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Rodney said: 6 quarters is a little much in one night dont ya think I'd prefer to run 2 games a week instead Friday saturday vs the same team And all playoffs go to a best of three on friday saturday sunday South Side vs Carroll twice in 24 hours? Ouch. I do like best of three in the playoffs though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 hours ago, BTF said: South Side vs Carroll twice in 24 hours? Ouch. I do like best of three in the playoffs though. also were removing the abomination that is the mercy rule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishman Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 5 hours ago, BTF said: What about pre-game warmups? Eliminate those and we have time for 6 quarters. Some schools in the burbs around Chicago play the JV game on Friday night before the Varsity game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Irishman said: Some schools in the burbs around Chicago play the JV game on Friday night before the Varsity game. Sounds like a long night to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTF Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, BTF said: Sounds like a long night to me. 2 hours ago, Irishman said: Some schools in the burbs around Chicago play the JV game on Friday night before the Varsity game. Don't wanna hijack this thread. You might appreciate the new topic I'll be posting in 5 minutes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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