Alabama band director tased and arrested after high school football game for refusing to stop performance

[dazed and confused]

I have visions of Coach Junction Boy trampled by the tuba player !

[Yuccaguy]

Overall, BOTH the Band Director and the Cops were in the wrong! 

BD should have ended the music (as the home team did).  It was told to the schools that a 5th quarter of playing was prohibited by the school ...and I assume conference.

Then let's factor in the 'safety' concerns of having children there AFTER the crowd has exited the stadium.  Not a good idea in any way/shape/fashion or form.

Far too many 'outsiders'....I am hesitant to say perhaps Adults.  Get caught up in the rapture of the festivities, and cannot make a delineation in the atmoshpere of what is supposed to be an educationally activity.... HS Sports!   

Band rivalries are the same as on field play, and they cannot see the differences. So to this situation, I say.  Shame on EVERYONE!   

I can't and won't support the BD.  AND I damned sure won't support the Cops' in their actions to remove the BD.  Just wrap his ass up and relocate him; Don't tase him.    

Time to move on.

[BTF]

7 minutes ago, Yuccaguy said:

Overall, BOTH the Band Director and the Cops were in the wrong! 

BD should have ended the music (as the home team did).  It was told to the schools that a 5th quarter of playing was prohibited by the school ...and I assume conference.

Then let's factor in the 'safety' concerns of having children there AFTER the crowd has exited the stadium.  Not a good idea in any way/shape/fashion or form.

Far too many 'outsiders'....I am hesitant to say perhaps Adults.  Get caught up in the rapture of the festivities, and cannot make a delineation in the atmoshpere of what is supposed to be an educationally activity.... HS Sports!   

Band rivalries are the same as on field play, and they cannot see the differences. So to this situation, I say.  Shame on EVERYONE!   

I can't and won't support the BD.  AND I damned sure won't support the Cops' in their actions to remove the BD.  Just wrap his ass up and relocate him; Don't tase him.    

Time to move on.

Is there a video somewhere? How do we know if the cop was in the right or the wrong?

[Yuccaguy]

6 minutes ago, BTF said:

Is there a video somewhere? How do we know if the cop was in the right or the wrong?

All over the place, CNN, You Tube.....  easy to find  

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/09/20/band-director-johnny-mims-birmingham-alabama-speaks-out-cnntm-vpx.cnn

Edited September 20, 2023 by Yuccaguy

[Yuccaguy]

10 minutes ago, BTF said:

Is there a video somewhere? How do we know if the cop was in the right or the wrong?

They had the lights turned off....

He kept conducting (smugly).   They didn't need to taste him...  Just wrap him up, and remove him from the premises.  

Would have saved the taxpayers the money that is sure to come from the impending lawsuit, and alleged violation of his rights.  

There was in place a NO 5th quarter situation with the bands playing.  He was well aware of this, as well as the home school's BD.  

[Yuccaguy]

On 9/19/2023 at 9:58 AM, oldtimeqb said:

I feel like I have heard an opposite story from other officials.  The head coach ASKED for a flag post-halftime so he justify his complaint to the AD about the band.  Presumably there was a personal beef between the HC and Band Director.  Which wouldn't be the first time. 

Been there, done that.

Not to give anything away.  But it was a "Big Orange Band"...

HILARIOUS when the HC lost his mind, and the AD was there to get all up in the BD's butt also.  

I just did what was asked of me.....  🤣

[Yuccaguy]

42 minutes ago, dazed and confused said:

I have visions of Coach Junction Boy trampled by the tuba player !

 

[BTF]

42 minutes ago, Yuccaguy said:

All over the place, CNN, You Tube.....  easy to find  

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/09/20/band-director-johnny-mims-birmingham-alabama-speaks-out-cnntm-vpx.cnn

I don't see any actual footage of the tasing. The video shows screaming in the beginning, then the cops telling him to go. I'm curious what happened in the moment that he was tased. Am I missing something. He seems like a great guy, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. But I feel that we're missing relevant footage. 

[BTF]

Tried editing my last post..................

That link doesn't show anything. I did, however, find a video that showed the actual tasing. Abuse of power. I agree, he could have been wrapped up. I think the band director could have handled the situation in a MUCH better way, but didn't deserve to be tased. 

Now, looking at it from a cops point of view. Should a cop have to engage in a physical altercation? Tasing does seem easier. Doing what the cop says just seems to be the better decision in my opinion. 

[Yuccaguy]

8 hours ago, BTF said:

Tried editing my last post..................

That link doesn't show anything. I did, however, find a video that showed the actual tasing. Abuse of power. I agree, he could have been wrapped up. I think the band director could have handled the situation in a MUCH better way, but didn't deserve to be tased. 

Now, looking at it from a cops point of view. Should a cop have to engage in a physical altercation? Tasing does seem easier. Doing what the cop says just seems to be the better decision in my opinion. 

Agreed.  Which is why this one is a conundrum.

The tasing is unwarranted, no question about that.  Just wrap him up.and escort him out.

Also, at the point of a confrontation... the BD should, as an educated man.  Been aware of the nature of his inaction and just stopped the band.  At that point he could have later sought a change in policies.

At this point.  The change will be simple!  Game over...everything is over.  

[Rodney]

cut the band half-time shows

cut half time

add a fifth-quarter or whatever the hell you call 5

 

[BTF]

47 minutes ago, Rodney said:

cut the band half-time shows

cut half time

add a fifth-quarter or whatever the hell you call 5

 

What about pre-game warmups? Eliminate those and we have time for 6 quarters. 

[Rodney]

26 minutes ago, BTF said:

What about pre-game warmups? Eliminate those and we have time for 6 quarters. 

6 quarters is a little much in one night dont ya think

 

I'd prefer to run 2 games a week instead

 

Friday saturday vs the same team

And all playoffs go to a best of three on friday saturday sunday

[BTF]

2 hours ago, Rodney said:

6 quarters is a little much in one night dont ya think

 

I'd prefer to run 2 games a week instead

 

Friday saturday vs the same team

And all playoffs go to a best of three on friday saturday sunday

South Side vs Carroll twice in 24 hours? Ouch. I do like best of three in the playoffs though. 

[Rodney]

2 hours ago, BTF said:

South Side vs Carroll twice in 24 hours? Ouch. I do like best of three in the playoffs though. 

also were removing the abomination that is the mercy rule

[Irishman]

5 hours ago, BTF said:

What about pre-game warmups? Eliminate those and we have time for 6 quarters. 

Some schools in the burbs around Chicago play the JV game on Friday night before the Varsity game. 

[BTF]

2 hours ago, Irishman said:

Some schools in the burbs around Chicago play the JV game on Friday night before the Varsity game. 

Sounds like a long night to me. 

 

[BTF]

9 minutes ago, BTF said:

Sounds like a long night to me. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Irishman said:

Some schools in the burbs around Chicago play the JV game on Friday night before the Varsity game. 

Don't wanna hijack this thread. You might appreciate the new topic I'll be posting in 5 minutes.