Impartial_Observer

Bottom line, it's not your sandbox. They don't have to justify anything.

I'm sure this is a relief for most everyone.

Not a meme, but....

Not sure about numbers, we've had two schools cancel lower level games due to numbers. These are Frosh/C team.

Did you watch the entire video? While Christy is clearly not an expert, reloading mags didn't take much more time. I have no plans on doing a mass shooting any time soon, and I practice mag changes at least with handguns. I would ass-u-me someone with a mass shooting in mind would practice a little. So after the shooter has been hit with a chair and wrestled to the ground, granny grabbed his magazine. Article claims the shooter paused to reload his shotgun, I found no reference to a mag change. I don't even have to look at everytown to know what it says, it will be the opposite of the NRA's data. I understand how the market works. I'm not denying they will be hoarded and the price will go up exponentially. If passed on some arbitrary date millions of high capacity mag owners become criminals if they don't destroy their legally purchased magazines. Just as an assault weapon ban, there will be a rash of boating accidents. I was under the assumption that you we challenging that it required passing of a law to ban bump stocks. I'm not conflating anything. Have you read the Friedman or Heller decisions?

You tell me: As I stated, not necessarily an argument for or against. The main point I was making is on some arbitrary date, you either destroy your legally purchased magazines or you are a criminal. Who’s going to reimburse me for my investment if I’m forced to destroy them? Comparing mags to machine guns is laughable when you look at sheer numbers. And if we add in +10 mags for handguns the number grows exponentially. On two separate occasions the ATF deemed bump stocks legal in that they did not change the mechanical firing mechanism of the rifle. In 2018 the ATF amended the regulations. https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/oct/06/national-rifle-association/nra-claim-obama-approved-bump-stocks/ https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/bump-stocks To the rest of it, sure the answer is always to limit liberties of law abiding citizens.

Sorry, posted wrong response and can not edit. You can find data available, but the topic is so distorted at this point, no one can even decide on what constitutes a mass shooting. If you listen to Moms their claim is mass shooting happen 13% of the time in gun free zones, you can find other studies that show mass shootings happen as much as 94% of the time. It's pointless to post any studies, half of the respondents will argue the source. My comment regarding states and posted properties refers to the fact that in some states if a property is posted as no weapons, and you are armed on said premises, there are some fairly stiff penalties. I believe in some locales it is a felony. In Indiana there's not really a penalty unless you are asked to leave and don't, you can be charged with criminal trespass which is a class A misdemeanor. Conceal carry solves a LOT of problems.

In Indiana, I interpret this: to mean no Berettas, and since I seldom carry a Beretta I’m good. I know people who’ve been asked to return their firearms to their vehicle at Simon properties.

Simon property, some states aren’t as forgiving about carrying on posted property as Indiana.

I can so top this, right here in downtown Seymour, if I'm ever quick enough with my camera.

This hits on several points of misinformation that is out there. This isn't necessarily an argument for or against just some comments: Limiting magazine capacity. It literally takes seconds to drop a mag and reload. I don't see this changing anything. If anything I would think smaller mags would increase lethality. Rounds tend to be heavy, the more you have the heavier they get. I believe I saw where one of the shooters was using a 100 round drum mag, have any of you ever actually held one of these things? I would think it's pretty worthless as far as hitting anything you're aiming at. I would assume in these active shooter situations it's just spray and pray, but it would still encumber movement and moving the muzzle around. I can even tell a noticeable difference between a 30 round mag and a 10 round in the weight. I've never tracked my accuracy between the two or if my accuracy has gone up as my mag is emptied. The other issue I see with magazine limits, what happens to the millions and millions that are already out there? Do they all become illegal at some arbitrary date, or are they grandfathered? You can get 30 round Magpul mags, decent mags for 11-13 bucks each, I can't imagine every AR owner doesn't own at least a half dozen of them. The last numbers I saw out of NJ's new law were they had had 0 high capacity mags turned in. Bump Stocks were just stupid to begin with. I don't know a serious shooter who had one. As we have mentioned before you can do the same thing with your belt loop and thumb. I believe they are currently illegal per ATF policy changes. By "conversion kits" I assume you mean to convert to full auto fire. It is currently illegal to possess such things, unless you have a tax stamp and a pre-86 gun. Armor piercing ammo.....not sure where to start. Pretty much ANY modern rifle round is going to penetrate standard issue kevlar vests. You are going to need to step up to 1/4" ballistic steel plate/ 1/2" ceramic armor to stop smaller caliber rifles, up to .308/AR-10. And up to 1/2" ballistic steel (which is too heavy to wear) or 3/4" Ceramic to stop .30-06. All of this is pretty irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Aside from the fact you're going to have to step up to Level III armor to stop the most common rounds used, AR-15/AK-47. I would assume SWAT probably uses plate armor, but the cops walking the street are not. Under current US law, "armor piercing bullets" only refer to hand gun rounds or rounds designed to be used primarily in handguns. Lastly in 2017, last year I could find stats, there were 10,795 murders by firearms. 403 were committed using a rifle, 264 with a shotgun. I have purposefully stayed away from this thread, mainly because they always go the same way. But from where I sit, gun violence seems to be a the symptom of a much bigger societal problem.

Sorry to hear of Coach Sartini's passing. Good coach, when I was on the sidelines I always enjoyed having his sidelines. His teams were always physical, well prepared, and very disciplined.

I think we're saying the same thing. Perhaps we need a "Goldbook" lol.

I have long advocated the perfect manufacturing facility will run with one man and one dog. The man is there to feed the dog, the dog is there to keep the man away from the machines. It has been several years since I've looked at robots in a manufacturing capacity. I would think by now the mechanicals are pretty mature technology. I would think it's more software issues that are immature and of course there is always evolving tech that has to be dealt with. I know from the late 80's and 90's to the early 2000's robot technology exploded. Robots of yesterday were dedicated machines to a single task. Robots evolved to being adaptable as manufacturing processes evolve. The Yang dude hit the nail on the head, the American factory worker is not being replaced by Hispanics, he/she is being replaced by automation. But automation still needs to be manufactured, installation, programming, maintenance, repair, etc. All of this is in the near term of course. Long term, according to the articles I W82 posted, perhaps we'll just need to determine what we're going to do with all of our free time.

Again, I'm not arguing what's being said. But still the issue at hand is a shortage of officials, not their competency. You guys see the same emails I see needing crews for games this year, we have a problem.

Other states produce good study vids. I watch a LOT of them. I have no idea where they come from, whether state or officials associations are putting them out. I'm not going to argue the value of of in person meetings, discussion, and interactions with other officials. However, the issue at hand is a shortage of officials. What I posted above are from two different officials and their comments regarding the post at Offside. These are two guys in my relatively small group of cronies. Some associations start their meetings in June in an effort to "get them out of the way". There is little to no content ready at that point, no one has rule books yet, most people aren't even in Football mode yet, with many still officiating other sports.

I don't disagree with that.

Job opportunities for robot techs!

Two texts I received from fellow officials after seeing the post at the Offside FB page: I tend to agree with Just Rules, at least at the HS level, sportsmanship is an easy scapegoat, but there are other issues at play. For me it's not about the money and I tend to lose a good deal of money doing varsity games. I'm a 54 year old empty nester, it's not that big of a deal so long as it continues to be fun for me. But put yourself in the position of a young person with a wife and small children. Suddenly the money is a little more of an issue. Plus meeting times being away from said wife and kids. I understand the point.

We have several Saturdays open if schools are looking to move games.

According to a post on FB, we are short six crews to cover Friday nights, is there any truth to that rumor?

Yesterday you were threatening to whip my ass, today you're threatening to kill me. I'm starting to get the idea you don't like me.

Problem is solved!

10 years ago, ACA promised many things, and has been lauded as a giant step forward. Yet here we are 10 years later and according to the people on the stage the last couple of nights we have a healthcare crisis. So before we buy into the all the promises this time around, ACA promised: 1. If you like your insurance you can keep it. 2. If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. 3. ACA will lower premiums for the typical American family up to $2500 a year. 4. For the 85%-90% of Americans who already have health insurance it will be made stronger with better coverage. 5. For families making less than 250K they will see no new taxes. 6. ACA will not add one dime to the deficit now or in the future. I could go on but you get the picture. So all of these career politicians are pointing out that they government has failed, and the answer is more government.