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That's funny Donnie. I have not been hurt by the Mustangs. Just not a fan. But trust me, my dislike is well rooted. Honest question, Do you see their program headed back to its old ways? Where they can compete for at least a WRC title and the Sectional?

Wow, a thread started on a Monday. Maybe there is some interest in the WRC still... COVINGTON vs. SEEGER - Coach Herb and Seeger are thanking their lucky stars the Panthers couldn't get a 2 point conversion and fumbled on the 1 yard line last week. Otherwise the Partriots might be sitting at 1-3. The Patriots' secondary was exploited by giving up 300 plus passing yards. (To the Panthers?) Covington, I'm sure, is licking their chops. But can they stop that Patriot run game? I hope the Trojans are up for the task. This should be a dandy. Covington 45 Seeger 40 RIVERTON PARKE vs. NORTH VERMILLION - I thought North Vermillion would give more of a fight against Linton. Apparently, the Miners are better than advertised, or the Falcons are less than. I don't know. One thing is for sure, Riverton Parke looks to be competing a lot more than they have in the past, even, as I've heard, without being full strength still. Will the Panthers ruin the Falcon Homecoming? It's been a long time (2007) since a Panther win in this series. We'll see... NV 35 RP 32 ATTICA vs. FOUNTAIN CENTRAL - Attica is back! Maybe. Not ideal to take nearly a month off during an only two and half month long regular season. The Ramblers will have to knock some rust off I'm sure. The Mustangs look to get back to their ways of beating up inferior opponents. Might be a little closer than Eminem says. FC 26 Attica 20 PARKE HERITAGE vs. GREENCASTLE - The Tiger Cubs in fact lost to the Eagles 19-13. But they still present an issue to the Wolfs. They're usually a run first team. Which by now, we should all know, the Wolfs are bad at stopping. Parke Heritage needed a Tuscola(IL) fumble to get the ball back for their chance to win last week. Otherwise, I think they would have lost two in a row. Even with all of their athletes, they may find playing up a few classes will present a problem, and they're on the road for a third straight week. Who made this schedule? Greencastle will be tough to beat at home. GC 42 PH 40 SOUTH VERMILLION vs. SULLIVAN - The Wildcats will be in trouble during this one. The Golden Arrows will score more than them. That's all I have to say about that. This one could get ugly. Sullivan 42 SV 14

Yes, I would put South Adams as the leader, although I'm sure Adams Central will have something to say about that. As I'm sure you're familiar with, the ACAC has had its share of pretty good football teams.

Week 4 of what has been a pretty dismal WRC season so far. The only teams with a winning record, so far, are Parke Heritage, Fountain Central and Covington. The Wolfs looked completely inept last weekend against Adams Central. All that state championship run talk in Rockville should be quiet for a few weeks. (The Flying Jets aren't even the best team in their conference!)The Mustangs have benefitted from a depleted Riverton Parke squad and a bad Frontier team for their two wins. I wouldn't count them as a top contender. The Trojans can score a bunch, but their defense and overall team play lacks a little bit as games wear on. Their 28-0 1st quarter lead against North Vermillion last week got widdled down to 12 points half way through the 3rd quarter. North Vermillion does play hard, just not enough playmakers. Seeger and South Vermillion had some rough goes early on. I look for them to improve as the season goes, maybe. Attica is a question mark if they'll even play again. I hear good things about Riverton Parke, but they're in the same boat. Got to get them on the field! Anyways here are the picks.... FOUNTAIN CENTRAL at COVINGTON - The Trojans' QB reminds me a lot of Brett Favre. Reckless at times, but always ready to make a play. He's a competitor, and can sling it. I don't think the Mustang secondary can contain the Trojans' passing attack. If they do, I don't think the Mustang offense can score enough points to win. Either way, I see a Trojan victory. COVINGTON 45 - FC 28 LINTON at NORTH VERMILLION - This game used to be a fun one to watch. Used to be. The last several meetings have been all Miners. After their 2nd half performance last week against a tough Monrovia team, the Miners appear to be gearing up for another deep post-season run. The Falcons will always compete, but I don't think they'll pull it out. LINTON 54 - NV 32 SEEGER at RIVERTON PARKE - I had high hopes for this year's Patriot's team. They looked ready to challenge the Wolfs and Wildcats for conference domination. Their week one matchup with Parke Heritage showed me otherwise. I have even less confidence in them now considering I've heard that their 13-0 loss to Southmont was at the hands of several non-starters and JV players on the field for the Mounties. Fortunatley for Coach Herb, I have no clue if the Panthers will be at full strength. If they are, they could be a problem for an under performing team like Seeger. If not, Seeger should win. Should win, maybe. SEEGER 28 - RP 27 MARSHALL(IL) at SOUTH VERMILLION - I know nothing about the Lions this year. The Wildcats are on pace to break the school record in scoring offense, but unfortunately, also scoring defense. I'd like to think that South Vermillion has the better athletes on the field, but I've though that the last three weeks. This one will probably be another shootout. SV 56 - MARSHALL(IL) 55 PARKE HERITAGE at TUSCOLA(IL) - I know even less about the Warriors. Hopefully they don't run the ball! I mean that game last week against Adams Central was a clinic on how to run the ball. Parke Heritage has never been beat that bad in its illustrious 4 years of existence. How do the Wolfs recover from the beat down they received from the Flying Jets? They were supposed to play Attica, who is still out. Now they play Tuscola(IL). If the Warriors run the ball, and do it with efficiency, the Wolfs are in for a long night again. PH 8 - TUSCOLA(IL) 7

Lol, that's called Adams Central being up 35-0. I said in my game picks this week that Parke Heritage would find the Flying Jet's brand of football a little more harsh than they're used to. Watching that game tonight, Adams Central looked down right nasty. Slow, methodical, punishing, run attack. Only 3 passes thrown the whole game. Parke Heritage does not look like a top 10 team.

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Missed this last week, with the site being down and all. So, some of my commentary will be from the previous two weeks. Anyways, this week's picks... Covington vs. North Vermillion - Both teams have scored this year. Even in a loss last week the Falcons put up over 30. The Trojans have showed they can score too, but are pretty porous on defense. This one will probably be a dandy. Will the Falcons play a second overtime game in three weeks? Over/ under on passes thrown in this one is 100. I think Crabtree and the boys pull this one out, barely. NV 41 Covington 40 Frontier vs. Fountain Central - The Falcons might be 0-2, but so should the Mustangs. They may be improved, but the verdict is still out. And from what I understand, their victory last week was against a very depleted RP squad. That might not be saying much, but it wasn't the same Panther team that took the field in week 1 that drubbed Attica 34-6. This one still has the makings of a pillow fight. Whoever has the ball last wins. Frontier 28 FC 21 Seeger vs. Southmont - The Patriots and the Mounties should have some fun on the turf this Friday. Southmont appears to be much improved at 2-0 with wins over FC and North Putnam, but Seeger has Herb. If anyone can get his players to play, and coaches to coach, even when outmatched, it's Herb. But, if the Patriots aren't 100% like the above poster says, I think The Mounties move to 3-0. Southmont 28 Seeger 21 South Vermillion vs. Riverton Parke - How does a team with a D1 QB lose 62-56 in week 1 against a team who didn't have a head coach until this summer, but easily beats their county rival in week 2? I dunno, the Wildcat magic might be running out in that visor. Maybe it's time for a new one? Their D has given up 98 points in two games, while their O has scored 106. The word is that the Panthers are still without the services of several players, but they still put a team on the field last week. From what I hear, if they were full strength they wouldn't have done the same thing to the Mustangs last week that they did to the Ramblers in week 1. But that's why we play the games. This one is closer than the Fighting Visors want it to be. SV 45 RP 40 Parke Heritage vs. Adams Central - This game should be televised. The Wolfs have all the talent you can find in the Wabash Valley. The Flying Jets I'm sure have plenty of home-grown talent. The North vs. The South. The Pass vs. The Run. The latter being the achilles heel of the Wolfs. I think Parke Hertitage will find the brand of football Adams Central plays is a little more harsh than what they're used to. They are talented and may keep it close, but I like the Flying Jets in this one. AC 42 PH 35 @Tanka Jahari Don't leave us hanging. The WRC needs your insight...

Man, kinda dead in here... @Tanka Jahari where you at?

We need to bump this thread to the first page. Where is everyone else at? I saw on another post that oldbleacherbum or whatever his name is wanted to get out of the Gridiron. Must not like what he sees in old Wolfs country. Ok, back to the games... ATTICA at RIVERTON PARKE - The Ramblers just keep on rambling! Heard they actually have pretty decent numbers this year. But do they have the athletes to compete in the WRC? The Panthers seem to be a bit of an enigma. Fooball has struggled, their Basketball team was competitive last winter and Baseball went to regionals. Where are those kids during football season? I've heard some of them may finally have come out for football. If that's the case, I'll take the Panthers athletes over the Ramblers athletes. RP 35-28 FOUNTAIN CENTRAL at SOUTHMONT - I don't know much about either team, except that the Mustangs have struggled recently and the Mounties are a bigger school and have field turf. I'll take the team with more kids and better facilities. Southmont wins 28-14. NORTH VERMILLION at NORTH CENTRAL - Two teams that have had a pretty rough go of things recently after several great seasons. I don't look for the Falcons to stay down for too long. The Thunderbirds could be in for another long season. NV 35-14. SEEGER at PARKE HERITAGE - The WRC Championship part 1! Seriously, who schedules these games? The winner of this game has an inside track to the conference championship after week 1. The Patriots can run the ball and play good defense, which has been a recipe for disaster for the Wolfs. The Wolfs, I understand, have done a bit of team improvement over the summer and added some firepower to an already potent offense. But the question still remains... can they play defense and stop the run when it counts? This one is closer than folks in Rockville will want it to be. PH 42-35. SOUTH VERMILLION at COVINGTON - This one was over before halftime last year. This year may not be much different. The Wildcats have a few spots to fill, but return their Division 1 QB and a few pretty good RB/WR's. Who is even coaching the Trojans? Did they ever annouce that? I have a lot more questions, but I don't think they matter too much in this one. Could be the only blowout game in the WRC this week. SV 42-7

Well, well, well... A WRC Thread, finally! It's been way too quiet on here. Thanks Tanka for once again showing the initiative to get some conversations going. The following, of course, is just my two cents. (Also in alphabetical order) ATTICA - I tend to agree, they will stuggle because of numbers. But it is not for a lack of trying. One thing is for sure, Coach Schmid and the Ramblers will play and compete until their last man is standing. COVINGTON - Third coach in three years? Ouch. Not good for a school who's mission is to try to compete with the Wolfs, Wildcats and Patriots for WRC football dominance. The Trojans may have to look to the NFL to find a replacement. Or maybe coach Brown returns? Or just play soccer? FOUNTAIN CENTRAL - Ugh, just ugh. Gotta be better than last year, right? It may be a while before the Mustangs return to prominence. If they get there at all. It's a shame too, because they have some pretty good facilities and a history of winning. I credit the school and Coach Hall for sticking each other out. NORTH VERMILLION - An enigma. Was last year a bump in the road? Or has the Falcon talent pool finally dried up? I don't see them winning the WRC, but they won't be like last year. Coach Crabtree usually finds a way to get his Falcons to play. PARKE HERITAGE - Another year, more passing records and no championships? As talented as they are, until they can effectively run the ball late in games with the lead, championships will evade them. Coach Moore needs to "find" a good running back to compliment Johnson & Johnson. But the question remains... how long will it last for the Wolfs in Rockville? RIVERTON PARKE - Only a matter of time until the talk becomes a reality, right? As far as this year, who knows. Coach Sanders and the Panthers should be a little better. Could they be the surprise team this year? SEEGER - Coach King is a program builder! The Patriots should definitley be in the conversation as a favorite to win the WRC. And maybe their sectional? Hall of Fame status coaching always takes advantage of generous talent pools. Seeger has both. SOUTH VERMILLION - Coach Barrett has built himself a nice program in Clinton. They did lose a few studs, but I think the Wildcats will be just fine this coming season. Although, they will have to play the games of their lives if they want to complete the season sweep of the Wolfs and Patriots again. Not everyone can say they beat two Hall of Fame coaches in the same year. WRC side note: I was lucky enough to catch a little of the 5th & 6th spring football between the Panthers, Falcons and Wildcats. (Seriously, where is the rest of the WRC?) All three teams looked to have a stud or two coming up. SV's QB and RB and NV's QB. But it appears as if Coach Sanders and his Panthers may soon be serving up wins in Mecca as well as Tenderloins. There you go, looking forward to some more discussions...

Indy Shortridge is listed twice. 4A Sectional 22 (Which is where Harrell has them) and 1A Sectional 46. Which one is it?

You advocating for a single High School in Parke County?

Maybe if he wore a visor he could one day hold up that WRC trophy and be named "Coach of the Year" once again. As good as they have been, that Sectional trophy seems to have eluded him since moving to PH. I believe the PH - TR merger hour glass is slowly running out of sand as far as football is concerned. There is no doubt some great talent on the current Wolfs squad, but what's coming behind it? The boys basketball and volleyball teams seem to be cashing in on the merger. If they're not winning trophies in football with their current talent, will kids keep coming out to play?

Just my two cents... This alignment would be a travel nightmare. Have you ever driven from the Fort Wayne area to Mishawaka or Elkhart? Would not be much fun on a bus. Warsaw wouldn't be that bad. Games would have to start later. Saturday is an option, but most of these schools have solid teams in other sports that typically compete on Saturday in the fall. AD's would not want to pull possible fans away from those games. And I would argue that the SAC is already the second best conference behind MIC. I'm using state finals appearances as my barometer. Since 1994 All Classes... SAC - 27 state finals appearances 14-13 overall record (Including now defucnt FW Harding) HCC - 8 state finals appearances 3-5 overall record

Word on the street is they've updated to Hudl Sidline and the endzone cameras are coming.....

It is in fact not BS, the principal posted the new PHHS student athlete COVID guidelines to the school's social media accounts over the weekend. As well as emailed the entire staff and student body. Said email was then screenshot multiple times I'm sure, and sent out all over various social media platforms. Apparently, after reading said email, members of your community took some offense to some students getting special treatment. Espcially considering the school to your south has suspended athletics (Cross Country exception noted...) and has gone to E-Learning this week at least until Wednesday. All this prompted the PH principal to post a follow up email this morning stating the new guidelines were for all PHHS students, not just student athletes. Eventhough the original email only mentions student athletes. Typical CYOA tactic when one realizes they probably made a mistake. I have screen shots of the emails, if you want me to PM them to you so you can read for yourself. With that being said, this week will be interesting to say the least. I'm still in league with Donnie, this sectional is South Putnam's to lose. Covington 42 Cloverdale 0 - Not quite baskeball season for the Trojans, they get another week. It's definatley basketball season for the Clovers. Parke Heritage 35 Riverton Parke 8 - Who does the two week layoff affect the most? Are there any players out for each team? Will this game even be played? Wolves move on over Panthers and get closer to their date with destiny. Attica 24 North Vermillion 20 - Closest game of the sectional. Ramblers convert all their 2 point conversions. Falcons not enough offense to move on. South Putnam 56 Fountain Central 0 - Eagles put the Mustangs out of their misery. Get one step closer to their date with destiny.

That's funny. If you knew my name, I wouldn't be a keyboard warrior. That's about all Bobby does at the Club these days is answer phones since Trent Miles is now in charge. The Boys and Girls Club merged with Vigo County Youth Football, not the Sports Center. Evidently Bobby gave you some bad information. So, instead of speculation about the Riverton youth team, I went to the Boys and Girls club site and looked up the scores of the Riverton 5th/6th grade team... T.H. Seahawks 26 RP 25 3 OT RP 34 N. Vermillion 0 RP 40 SV 8 T.H. Falcons 18 RP 6 RP 28 West Vigo 6 RP 24 T.H. Panthers 6 RP 24 Sullivan 0 Not too shabby, 5-2 on the year so far. Although it looks as if they're competing with T.H. teams and blowing out schools of similar size. BTW... I like Bud Light in a bottle

Word on the street is Clovers are down to about 12 kids. And I hear the Panthers are out the next 2 weeks, but return the week of sectionals. If those two teams don't play, it'd be a 6 team sectional. Definately very interesting.

Yeah, it is amazing when you look at a map and can look at an address and assign a kid to a team. Pretty crazy process. Little League has only been doing it for like 100 years. Give it up Ron. BTW, saw a score on Facebook (Since that seems to be where you get all your information.) Banks of the Wabash football tourney - JH Panthers 44 JH Wolves 22. From what I read the Wolves were up 14-0 in the first. So that means they were outscored 44-8 in the final three quarters... ouch! That is hilarious. You WRC people are something else. You really think they can score 72 and hold West Vigo to 12? Parke Heritage is giving up 22 points a game. The Vikings will be able to score at least that many. They're not scoring 72. Wouldn't be surprised if they get beat in a shootout similar to the South Vermillion game.

Agreed, there's not a team in the WRC that could beat South Putnam this year. Including South Vermillion. Kids on Terre Haute teams typically play with kids in their geographical area. (South, North, West, East). They don't typically do team stacking in Terre Haute. The battle lines between the high school teams are pretty well drawn out. South kids end up at TH South, North at TH North, West at West Vigo. Eastside kids usually split up between TH South and TH North. Occasionally, there's some flip-flopping that goes on. You even see some South and North kids end up at West Vigo. It usually causes quite the stir in Terre Haute when one school gets a lot of the good youth kids. I'm not sure, but are Rockville youth teams even playing anywhere this year? Gonna be tough to replenish the talent pool if they're taking a year off. I've heard the JH Wolves are middle of the pack in WRC competition. And I've also heard the JV Wolves have only played 2 games this year. 50 kids on the high school team and they can't find JV games to play? Is this COVID related, or not wanting the rest of the conference to see the talent drop off? Agreed, good tenderloins or not, he's not gonna end up at Riverton Parke...ever

Oldbleacherfan, your disdain for Riverton Parke is duly noted. But, like Tanka, I have heard the same good things about the Panthers' youth program. Which is more than I can say for Parke Heritage's youth program. From what I've been told, not only are the Young Panthers doing just fine, they are defeating teams in Terre Haute (along with North and South Vermillion's youth squads) quite handily. Now typically there is a little bit of growing pains between youth, middle and high school football, but success is success. Winners are winners. Those kids, hopefully for Riverton's sake, will bring that winning with them. Lord knows that program is overdue for some winning seasons. And I agree with Tanka, Not every school's athletic team success can be the beneficiary of a school consolidation for very long. Besides, aren't you the same guy who said Parke Heritage was pathetic after it's shootout loss to South Vermillion? But now you are rooting them on? Why? Because you know they can defeat Riverton this week? That, my friend, is the definition of a fair weather fan. Which to me is pathetic.

How about... Attica vs. Covington - XFL or Bust! Riverton Parke vs. North Central - Our baseball team is better than your baseball team! Parke Heritage vs. North Vermillion - Awe, c'mon, let me win just once... Sheridan vs. Seeger - I'm Bud Wright... South Vermillion vs. Fountain Central - We're glad we left the WIC! (I did have to chuckle about coach Hall yelling across the field...)

Here are my takes. Covington 35 Attica 28 - The Trojans should have the better team on Friday. But the Ramblers surprised a lot of people by beating a healthier, much improved North Vermillion squad. Covington's passing game over Attica's secondary will be the difference. Riverton Parke 32 North Central 20 - Another week, another winless opponent, but the Panthers get win number 2 this week. Tough times down in Farmersburg for the Thunderbirds. They haven't scored since their first game (Against Parke Heritage's JV). That was also the last time they had a full roster of kids. The Thunderbirds may get a few this week, but just don't have enough offense to beat the Panthers. Also heard they have a new head coach??? Parke Heritage 42 North Vermillion 28 - Can a Coach Moore led team finally beat a Coach Crabtree led team? I think this is the year the Wolves finally beat the Falcons. But this year's game doesn't quite carry the meaning it did last year. Will they meet again in the sectional??? Apparently some folks in Rockville are still grumpy about Parke Heritage's shootout loss to South Vermillion last week. (Which yours truly said would happen!) They've gone as far as using the word pathetic to describe the success and offensive exploits of this year's Wolves team. Aren't records made to be broken? Sheridan 35 Seeger 34 - The old ball coach, Bud Wright and his Blackhawks eke out the win over Herb King and his Patriots. A good warm up for Seeger before the WRC Championship Game Part II next week at South Vermillion. South Vermillion 65 Fountain Central 0 - The Wildcats go back to the air this week after running all over Parke Heritage. A tune up before facing Seeger for the WRC Championship next week. The Mustangs just hope they can get in the endzone.

Friday, Oct. 2 Attica at Covington ©, 7 pm North Central at Riverton Parke, 7 pm North Vermillion at Parke Heritage ©, 7 pm Seeger at Sheridan, 7 pm South Vermillion at Fountain Central ©, 7 pm

So by that definition, apparently Parke Heritage was a pathetic team last year. And all those records set last year in Rockville didn't mean anything. They were just 10-2 along with being Sectional and Conference runners-up. That is nothing to call pathetic. A lot of coaches go their whole careers and programs play year in and year out without getting there. For the Wolves I imagine building on last year's "success" (or lack there of apparently) would be a goal of theirs this year. The WRC championship might be gone, but I'm sure they can still look forward to competing for the Sectional championship. In my experience, individual success and team success usually go hand in hand. Sometimes you have to determine what a successful season is going to look like before the season and try to reach those goals. And each year you add new ones. That's what you call building a program.