Bash Riprock

I can't see that....maybe they will follow the Big 12 model. I believe they simply pick the top 2 teams from the regular season conference play.

I actually review real studies Muda...not just accept the opinion of one individual. But I do understand it easy to accept one opinion only as gospel, if that opinion just happens to align with one's own thoughts. But other than a single opinion, present some real facts if you want to get people's attention. I think most of this forum are every bit as qualified as you to assess risk and make the right decisions for our family. But again, you do you. Lead your family as you see fit...others I am sure will do the same.

I know these sources are too long to read for you, but based upon data, flag football, along with girls soccer, hockey, wrestling and cheerleading should also be banned.....if one follows your line of logic. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5305025/#:~:text=There are approximately 2.8 million,and 43 per 1000 exposures. https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/15/health/concussion-high-school-sports-study/index.html Note, this neurologist feels differently than your doctor friend and his wife https://nortonhealthcare.com/news/sport-with-most-concussions-high-school/ I realize that no study data is ever going to change your mind. You are not open on this issue. So make a risk based decision that is best for your family and respect that other parents can do the same.

Maybe you should read what people respond to your posts....with an open mind

so many pro bowl players and now a coordinator promoted to head coach of another team. Impressive for a non-playoff team. BTW, Colts finished 16th in overall team defense. Middle of the pack. https://www.footballdb.com/stats/teamstat.html?group=D&cat=T

Nice sterotype.....how is retorting with your own insult behavior that is any different or any more acceptable? Seriously, what are you arguing? You start a thread comparing football to rugby indicating the latter is safer. I provided you clear data from the NIH that indicates that is not accurate. You have other people that have shown you that much of youth football and above does teach safer tackling techniques. It would seem that you don't have a ton of data and you are using one example to make your case, when you really don't know a ton of about that particular case. You are speculating at best. I understand you wish to go down with your ship....but I am not sure you need to. What is it that you are really arguing? I think we agree the world in general and sports included are not risk free. And I believe you are a guy that tends to espouse personal freedom including free will. What do you want from this discussion other than it would seem is to simply argue? You've said in the past that football should be banned until the age of 18 in the name of safety. That is pretty extreme and is polar opposite of personal freedom. How would have doing so helped with the particular case of the NFL player injury that you use as an example? Given the injury data for rugby, including concussions, would that sport need to be banned as well? Where are you going with this discussion? You just really come across in this case as data lacking, argumentative, and inconsistent with your past political positions of personal accountability and freedom. At least that is my take. I respect your positions all in all on GID....but I am struggling in this case to understand where you are going.

I think Payton wants out of NO because he doesn't have a QB. So not sure why he would want to go to Chicago.......maybe because he grew up in Naperville??

I agree with your comment that I highlighted. Your explanation included a fair number of hypotheticals..."could haves". One thing we know, kicking the ball to the end zone eliminates "could haves". No return, ball on the 25 yd line, and no time consumed. Bottom line, the defense didn't get it done. Somehow, they allowed an All-Pro TE run free down the middle of the field with the opposing team having 3 TO's at their disposal. At the end of the day, as with the Soprano's...its over. Just hope this weekend's games are as good as last week. Hope Cincy comes to play and has a better defense to make it a little harder on KC...easier said than done.

3 secs with 13 sec left is huge. This is almost 25% of the time burnt. This means with 10 secs left, probably only have time for 2 plays for substantial yardage....get the ball to midfield if possible and then Hail Mary. I believe there were 3 secs on the clock when the FG was attempted and made. 3 secs that most likely wouldn't have been available.

I understand....but one doesn't have to kick it to Hill. A squib kick to the center of the field would have worked. But I agree that hindsight is always 2020.

incredible weekend...3 games with walk-off FG's to win....and 1 in OT. I agree with Temp....not sure I can remember a round of games like these. Saw a wild fact tweeted by ESPN....first time in 12 years that a conference title game will not feature Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. I also had to agree with Tony Romo's comments near the end of the Bills/Chiefs game. Why didn't the Bill squib kick and put the ball in play to eat up some of the 13 secs left in regulation? I felt a little sorry for Josh Allen.....young man played his heart out.

I agree and thought hard about with my picks this weekend. Just hard to pick Stafford over Brady in the playoffs

At least until the guy is married.....😉

I’d vote out any team that fails to provide a safe environment for players, students and fans.

How did you go from NFL football to youth football. Do you have any youth data to back up the doctor's claims? How do you know that rugby style tackling isn't already being taught at the youth levels? BTW, this study published by the NIH says something very different about rugby risks. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26786902/ Results: The overall injury rate was 4.9/1000 AEs in football versus 15.2/1000 AEs in rugby: IRR = 3.1 (95% CI, 2.3-4.2). Game injury rates were higher than practice injury rates: IRR = 6.5 (95% CI, 4.5-9.3) in football and IRR = 5.1 (95% CI, 3.0-8.6) in rugby. Injury rates for the shoulder, wrist/hand, and lower leg and for sprains, fractures, and contusions in rugby were >4 times as high as those in football (all P ≤ 0.006). Concussion rates were 1.0/1000 AEs in football versus 2.5/1000 AEs in rugby. Most injuries occurred via direct player contact, especially during games. The rate of season-ending injuries (>3 months of time loss) was 0.8/1000 AEs in football versus 1.0/1000 AEs in rugby: IRR = 1.3 (95% CI, 0.4-3.4). Conclusion: Overall injury rates were substantially higher in collegiate rugby compared with football. Similarities between sports were observed in the most common injury types (sprains and concussions), locations (lower extremity and head), and mechanisms (direct player contact). Upper extremity injuries were more common in rugby, and the rate of season-ending injuries was similar between sports.

A young man transfers from Clemson, and graduates from Northwestern. He then contacts his old coach asking about a GA position to pursue his MBA. His old coach asks him if would like to use his last year of eligibility to play at Clemson while he pursues his graduate degree and he accepts. He should he applauded for being a scholar athlete. SMH

it interesting that the same people that worry and complain about the lack of competition within 6A, are the same people worried about the demise of the current highly successful programs in 6A. Irony? Maybe time for new hobby considerations??

I agree....the Longhorns have their work cut out for them..... But they are taking advantage of NIL....that is for sure. I love its being called "Charitable work"..... https://apnews.com/article/college-football-sports-football-austin-texas-1578609cf8697681db5a97389a715d3c AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Six months after one of the biggest rule changes in the history of college sports, money for athletes is being pledged by the millions in a development that has raised concerns about the role of wealthy alumni eager to back their beloved alma maters. At Texas, one group is dangling $50,000 a year for individual offensive linemen while another says it already has $10 million promised for Longhorns athletes. At Oregon, billionniare Nike founder Phil Knight is part of group helping Ducks athletes line up deals — just one of many interested parties with deep pockets jumping in alongside the apparel companies, energy drink companies, car dealerships and restaurants already signing athletes to endorsement deals. More than a dozen “collectives” have sprung up around major college programs like Ohio State, Penn State, Washington, Tennessee and others to connect athletes with marketing opportunities. At Texas, two new initiatives launched with the promise of big money just two weeks before signing day. Clark Field Collective, which is officially unaffiliated with the school, claims it already has $10 million pledged to support NIL deals for Longhorns athletes. Days later, a new nonprofit called Horns With Heart said it would pay $50,000 annually to Longhorns offensive linemen for work supporting community charities. The Clark Field group said its board of directors includes former NBA star T.J. Ford and former NFL player Kenny Vaccaro, two Texas alumni. “The University of Texas at Austin maintains the largest, wealthiest alumni donor base in the entire country,” Clark Field Collective CEO Nick Shuley said. “It’s time a network like this existed to support our college athletes.” Horns With Heart is a new kind of player in the athlete compensation field and it drew almost immediate outrage from rival fan bases amid larger questions about NIL’s role as a recruiting enticement. Horns With Heart was announced as Texas coach Steve Sarkisian was publicly pursuing offensive line recruits; he called the position a critical need after a disappointing 5-7 season. Within days, he scored two big commitments from blue chip players. Rob Blair, one of the founders of Horns With Heart, said his organization doesn’t cross any lines. “Pay for play is a deal breaker under NIL,” Blair said. “This isn’t pay for play. This is for actual charitable work.” The nonprofit aims to start its $50,000 payments to offensive linemen in August 2022 with a max of $800,000 per year for the entire unit. For a five-year player, that could mean $250,000 over their college career. Blair said the required charity work could be in-person appearances, promotion or representation, but the work has to be done to get paid. “This organization was started for purely altruistic means,” Blair said.

Unless schools have the resources or the connections to provide dollars to recruits, I am not sure it will change as much as we think. I think the rich schools like Texas, etc. will really make out big. It may provide some additional competition for Saban, but it won't be a fair table by a longshot.

I agree.... I think don't think Bama could overcome losing both of their top receivers. Between the SEC championship game and last night's first half, they lost 2 receivers that accounted for almost 200 catches and over 2000 yds during the season. That is a major, major hit to the offense. But I am happy for the Dawgs.....41 years since their last championship with a freshman named Hershel Walker making his name. Good grief am I old..... Note: I had to edit this post to prevent getting called out for a spelling error 😜

I don't think they could have gotten Goff. LA let him go because they received a better QB option. Colts didn't have that to offer. Goff doesn't leave LA without a better QB option. I do think they looked at Stafford. Lions would have demanded way too much. The Colts future. Trade up for Mac Jones....possible. But with getting Buckner prior year, not sure how much collateral they had to trade up. And then there is the issue with development. Not sure Colts had patience to start all over. But Mac Jones sure does look like a beast for the future. Free agency? May be their best option without a 1st round draft pick this year. Just not sure of their cap space, who they perhaps couldn't resign, and if Wilson still have lots of good playing days ahead of him. Not sure how is short size and scrambling need fits in with their blocking scheme. I am not sure the Colts have the receivers that will really attract a known FA.

I struggle with the entire NIL concept, knowing how hard my wife and I had to work, sacrifice and save to help our children with their educations. (and they invested as well academically, jobs, etc) We have seen to forgotten the value of an education. Also, that university football program develops that athlete and helps him/her to make it to the professional level. The athlete does not do it on their own. They get coaching, use facilities, get athletic and medical treatment, food/training tables, academic tutoring, etc. In football, they don't make it to the next level without the collegiate program investing big time in them individually and collectively. But I also see the issue of universities making big bucks using the athlete's name....and being fair. Where I really struggle with the NIL is 3 fold. 1) recruiting in general such as bait for transfers...what Charlie Batch is doing is what the NCAA has been chasing down for years...boosters gaining advantages 2) high school players getting nice payouts and they haven't done squat at the college level...ie, Quinn Ewers. 3) its not a level playing field...no way an IU can compete in football against OSU in providing bucks/payouts to prospective recruits and transfers. Let's face it....universities continue down the path as lucrative minor league systems, with unequal playing fields.

He sure was special...no doubt. On another level. I would have loved to see Rod Woodson play in high school to compare. I believe Rod is the greatest player to come out of Indiana, but I judge that typically from his college and professional days. The Banks family was so athletic...little sister Janese was a heck of a basketball player.

Looks like IU has a new defensive coordinator https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/33034970/sources-indiana-hires-minnesota-football-assistant-chad-wilt-defensive-coordinator

that will help significantly......and be used for other major events