Irishman

People forget he only played a handful of games in the undefeated seasons. AND, he had 2 1,000 yard rushers in Csonka and Morris. It was an unreal team....even Earl Morrall at something like 60 years old at the time could not screw it up. :)

Why not, right? It seems to be one of the more popular topics regardless of the forum.

A friend of mine from Indy still questions Bob Griese getting in.

I don't think that is what he meant. What he is saying, and I agree, is that this particular part of this website is reserved for high school football topics. While this particular topic creates a lot of good discussion, it is better suited to be had in Muda's playground, aka the OOB 2.0

I am guessing it is the same thing I hinted at in the exchange about the NH coaching opening and why it seems we underachieve; and it is likely a part of why HN will never join the SAC.

Any evidence to this point would be interesting to see. Brevard leaving may be the exception. Kolkman was forced out due to some reshuffling in the cash grab known as Race to the Top (aka Dash for the Cash). I am not sure what happened with Ryan Hall, but he did not go anywhere after North Side; at least that I am aware of. Also curious why you picked Huntington to move from the NE8 to the SAC, and not Leo? East Noble, I get, and that may actually be a good move for them.

Glad I did not assume then.

I was not aware of where he was before he was at South Side. But same name, so I am gonna say yep.

Yep...pretty sure I know the answer, just looking for confirmation. I don't want to assume. 🙂

So, you wrote the initial post knowing that?

There are so many factors that impact these programs, it is too easy to say a coach was not qualified. It is also unfair to connect the two programs. Mike Brevard did a great job at North Side. He moved on to St. Francis, something he had wanted to do; so it's hard to find fault there. If you are talking about the new hire, then it really is unfair to make the claim. I think Norfleet was a good coach as well. He sure had his kids ready to play us this year. Looking at the record as the sole measure of success in a program is not enough in programs like these; there are other programs in the area that are in the same boat.

My own thoughts are that the NAIA is mainly focused as an association on football and basketball, even though there are only something like 90 football programs in the association. As far as a competition level, it is tough to gauge. I would typically say NAIA is on a level of DII. It is hard to gauge that though, because there is only one DII team in the State, UIndy. When Marian was first getting the program off the ground, they were REALLY good. I forget what year it was but they throttled UIndy. I believe that was the only season, or at least the last season they played. I put NAIA ball on that level simply because they can offer scholarships, where DIII cannot....at least specifically for athletics. The top DIII programs seem to have ways to get money for athletes though. All that said, I don’t think the NAIA would compete well with the top DIII programs in the country. Programs like Wisconsin Whitewater and Mount Union could compete well in DII. So the lines may be a bit blurred at the top on those levels. I also think UIndy has improved enough over recent years that they would compete well with a team like Marian and St. Francis. It is interesting to IWU progress in NAIA. They should have beat St. Francis last year, and it’s my understanding that IWU is a non scholarship program, or at least don’t have the numbers like St. Francis and Marian do for offering kids. Taylor seemed to be a program on the rise, but I believe they went non scholarship as well. That tends to slow the progress. As far as academics, I am not sure one could say one segment holds the high ground. It is strictly a school by school thing. St. Francis has several tracks for becoming a teacher, and has a solid nursing program as well. I know Marian has a good school of education, but I am not familiar with other programs.

wooooo!!!

It will be interesting to see the coaching moves now that the season is over. There is some talk of Arians stepping down (He ain't the healthiest dude around) and Todd Bowles stepping into the head coach spot. Looking at Bowles resume', it is impressive. Even with the Jets, likely the worst run organization in the league, he got them to win 10 games his first year. He has certainly paid his dues, and deserves another shot. I think Leftwich stays put. This is only his second year as a coordinator. As far as KC goes, the only name that came up was Bienemy. he must not be good at interviews, or maybe he just wants to stay put? Their DC, Spagnuolo seems to be the type that is a solid coordinator, but not a head coach. No other names really stand out from either staff, off the top of my head any way.

So, no discussion of a QB from the era where the QB was fair game? Winning 4 Super Bowls in said era? Just asking for discussion purposes....difficult to compare eras, BUT Montana playing in this era? No spy gate issues, tuck rule, deflate gate, etc? Compared to TB playing in that era? What Brady has accomplished is incredible, and he very well may be considered the goat. Honestly, the 9ers of that era and this Tampa team were very similar as far as the way Tampa played in this game.

I agree...the conflict between Brady and the coaches was noticeable early in the season. When they finally turned Brady loose, it was clear he was in control of the offense.

Interesting stat:

So defensive holding is a thing? Huh While KC is not helping themselves, that last drive was the league’s going away gift to Brady. Exactly like the end of the first half in Green Bay. Sorry, but as great as Brady actually is, things like this bug me.

As with most of your posts on this topic, there really is no point......just let it go. It was Dullaghan who pushed for those things; if it were any other coach, they don't get the full support like that. Not sure what you are not getting here, or why you don't just stop.

Correct...I may have forgotten a LOT of things over the years, but my senior season ain't one of em. :)

The regular season was still 10 games in 84. There were just 4 playoff games then as well. Our sectional game was against Washington, Regional was against North Central, Semi State was against Martinsville, and we played Hobart for the State Championship.

That was a regular season game though. It was my senior year, and was the last game of the season.

I have a frozen Malnati's pizza in the freezer, since there is no restaurant nearby. I will throw that in the oven. I'd be in heaven if I had some of their bruschetta for a warm up.

There may be a few communities where basketball gets the support, but one thing we learned from this football season; football drives the budgets of many more schools, AND the budget of the IHSAA. The IHSAA could afford to cut off the basketball tournament last season, BUT the football season had to happen, or there would have been a high number of schools in trouble financially. Even though crowds were limited at football games, they still drive the budget. So, while the sentimental game may be basketball, the one that pays the bills is football.

Our head coach and Dullaghan were NOT friends at all. We were only ranked 3rd or 4th going into that game.....the ONLY time I ever heard Coach Stauffer come close to swearing.......we are going to prove to everyone we are the best damn team in the State. Final score was WC 61 BD 8.....and we did not let up.