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1A North Semi State: South Adams @ LCC
Bobref replied to Basementbias's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I worked a sectional final between the two at Pioneer in 2005. LCC came from 2 scores down, assisted by the Pioneer coach making an arithmetic error and thinking he could knee it out, but ended up having to give the ball back. LCC then scored on the last play, went for 2 and made it to send the game into overtime. You can guess the result. We weren’t too popular in Royal Center that night. Our van had a flat tire when we came out of the locker room after the game, and while we were changing it, they turned out the lights in the parking lot. 😂🤣 -
1A North Semi State: South Adams @ LCC
Bobref replied to Basementbias's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Great atmosphere at LCC. Always enjoyed working there. I expect they will be good hosts to the visitors, as well. What are the limitations on fan attendance, and how well do you think SA fans will travel? -
That’s two consecutive impressive games by Book. Dare we hope that he has finally turned the corner, and become the guy who can win a big game, rather than just play not to lose it? And that new receiver group is really beginning to jell. Now that the Skowronek kid from Ft. Wayne is healthy, he’s turned into a real big play guy.
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All true. But make no mistake, Chatard will bring it, travel notwithstanding. They always do. One of a handful of programs I can say with 100% certainty will show up under any circumstances and give an amazing effort. In case you can't tell, I'm a big admirer of their program. Reminds me a great deal of my old days at St. Ed's.
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The best high school game I ever worked was the 2002 sectional championship between 11-0, #1 ranked Chatard, and 11-0, #2 ranked Danville. Danville scored with seconds left, went for 2, and didn’t get it. The physicality of that game, a packed house, the de facto state championship game, all came together for a great high school football experience. That game was no place for the faint of heart, I assure you. They could only hope to approach that this time. But it should be a great football game.
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The rest of the B1G hopes you’re wrong.
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Cathedral vs Castle - 5A Semistate
Bobref replied to Dave007's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
So 4 teams in each class have "earned" the right to host a semistate, but only two will get to host one? Doesn't that "take away community pride and accomplishment," too? What if a team gets a regional championship because the opponent got "Covided" out? Have they earned it then? The reality is that with the total randomness involved in the draw and the determination of home field, nobody earns anything in our tournament except the right to play another game and, if you're the last man standing in your class, that trophy. But this is the lamest argument against neutral semistate sites that I can imagine. -
Cathedral vs Castle - 5A Semistate
Bobref replied to Dave007's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Doesn't someone have to be the visiting team at the semistate? -
For now, our sights are set a little higher than that.
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Regional Championship Scores
Bobref replied to Frozen Tundra's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Just give Pioneer a little credit. I suspect their play had something to do with Andrean’s difficulties. -
Regional Championship Scores
Bobref replied to Frozen Tundra's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Interesting that the first word in your post is “respectfully,” and then you go on in your zeal to call out the Andrean coaches and disrespect a very worthwhile opponent. Apparently, Pioneer’s players and coaches had little to do with the outcome, it was all just a colossal series of screwups by Andrean. I strongly doubt it. -
I still see no logic to a contention that this heralds some sort of a sea change in Indiana high school football that is “long term” in nature. We haven’t even completed a single season following the pandemic. That must be a really special crystal ball you’ve got there. Settle down. If things have changed to the point where some kind of adjustment is necessary, we can do that. But this sort of knee jerk reaction to information that is incomplete, at best, is just alarmist
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Do you see this being a Penalty in near Future
Bobref replied to Coach Nowlin's question in Officiating Forum
Disagree. -
How cold is too cold?
Bobref replied to oldunclemark's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
My memory’s not that good. Don’t remember how we got to the field. I do remember we skated back to the locker room on the ice. -
How cold is too cold?
Bobref replied to oldunclemark's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Coldest for me was Nov. 10, 2006. Regional at New Prairie, hosting Norwell. Temps in the low 50s when we got there. We finished our pregame and got dressed. When we walked out of the school, the temperature had dropped 20 degrees and it started raining. We went back in, changed to our cold/wet weather gear and went back out. The rain was coming down sideways from the start and the temperature kept dropping. The field was a quagmire. By the time we got out there for the 2nd half, the mud ruts in the field had started to freeze. There’s cold, and then there’s wet cold. Norwell had a QB named Chandler Harnish who went on to great things at Northern Illinois. On that field, he just couldn’t be stopped. After the game, I took my white knickers and striped socks and just threw them in the trash. -
2A #1 Andrean @ #3 Pioneer
Bobref replied to FarmerFran's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Yes, the University commissioned an independent investigation which found several instances of safety code violations and/or unsafe practices in connection with the decision to employ the hydraulic lift platform to film practice that day, all of which ND made public immediately. I believe they also paid an OSHA fine of $70K or so. And no personal injury or wrongful death suit could bankrupt a school corporation in Indiana. We have a Tort Claims Act that limits the max recovery against a governmental entity. And all municipalities are insured up to that limit. -
Do you see this being a Penalty in near Future
Bobref replied to Coach Nowlin's question in Officiating Forum
Please elaborate. -
2A #1 Andrean @ #3 Pioneer
Bobref replied to FarmerFran's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I assume you’re speaking of the tragic death of Declan Sullivan while filming football practice 10 years ago. There was never any lawsuit. The Sullivan family remains a valued part of the larger Notre Dame family. -
His pattern of behavior was evident early. Remember when he “sucker punched” Purdue’s Roosevelt Barnes?
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Officials and the Tournament
Bobref replied to RetiredOfficial03's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
People officiate for different reasons. For most people interested in primarily money, they either quit after a short time — or they’re really bad at economics. -
Do you see this being a Penalty in near Future
Bobref replied to Coach Nowlin's question in Officiating Forum
Looking at the video again, I probably would not have called this. The snapper’s block is a near pancake. The QB would have gotten in the end zone if he just tripped over his own feet. But I’m definitely going to talk to the pusher, and get a message to the coach, since this does look like the play was designed with the push in mind. -
Do you see this being a Penalty in near Future
Bobref replied to Coach Nowlin's question in Officiating Forum
It’s a factor. But it’s not conclusive. -
Do you see this being a Penalty in near Future
Bobref replied to Coach Nowlin's question in Officiating Forum
Well, he clearly pushed the QB. As an official, the question you have to ask yourself is “did it matter?” If the QB was already sure to get in as you watch the play, then no advantage gained, and you don’t call anything. If the push really helped, then you have to look at other factors. -
Follow the Science? How COVID Authoritarians Get It Wrong
Bobref replied to Muda69's topic in OOB v2.0's OOB Forum
I believe the confluence of the pandemic and the most bitterly polarizing election cycle in memory has changed America in many ways, some of which we won’t discover for a while. Pretty much none of them good.