Lysander

East Central 20 South Dearborn 0 Half

East Central 14 South Dearborn 0 7:17 left in 2nd Q

East Central 7 South Dearborn 0 1st Q

ouch!

Amazing game. I almost turned it off not being even a distant fan of Carmel. I’ve been a CG fan ever since.

This looks to become an interesting thread.

Yes...all of them....excepting

Sometimes I feel like I’m playing cards with my brother’s kids when I’m here.

Read every post over the last 4-6 weeks regarding this game. Pretty much everybody on both sides is ambivalent. Do some of you only read the GID annually? I’m only repeating what has been said.....err....repeatedly. I admit to being equally incredulous.

Dunno....all the folks here seem ambivalent about that game. I think a few of them are likely a little credible.

Honestly really have no idea what you are saying. I just pointed out the polls and their differences. Pity that you don’t care about analytical ranks... I’m not riding anybody’s bandwagon. I could care less. From what I’ve seen so far previously on the GID is that BOTH Cathedral and Center Grove don’t really care about their late season game and will sit on their hands in that game. We really won’t know who is No. 1.....based on most of the comments I’ve seen heretofore. Its all about the Blue Rings....so everyone repeats endlessly. To be clear, Brownsburg, Cathedral and Center Grove (separated solely by alphabet) likely have some gap between the current No. 4 (Chatard) and it remains to be seen who ends up 6A champ between CG and Brownsburg.

Here’s the deal. Sagarin only counts In-State Games. Out of state games are a black hole as far as Sagarin. MaxPreps/CalPreps calculates ranking inclusive of in and out of state games. I’m a huge Sagarin fan but for teams who play out of state games Sagarin has historically chronically underrated them (or simply not been able to rate them). Despite my leanings towards Sagarin the lack of inclusion of out of state games is problematic. Sagarin has the Top 5 currently as: 1. Center Grove (6A) 2. Cathedral (5A) 3. Brownsburg (6A) 4. Chatard (3A) 5. North Central (6A) MaxPreps/CalPreps has the Top 5 currently as: 1. Cathedral (5A) 2. Center Grove (6A) 3. Brownsburg (6A) 4. Chatard (3A) 5. North Central (6A) I’m likely the last guy here riding the Cathedral bandwagon but Sagarin takes NO consideration of their win against St. X Cincy (which is a bit significant). Sagarin takes NO consideration of the fact Brownsburg beat St. X as well. Right now, I think the Big 3 are Brownsburg, Cathedral and Center Grove (in alphabetical order). Both polls agree...just a matter of whether it’s Cathedral or Center Grove that’s #1.

Personally, I’m down with the way things are. I get to watch CCC games and then get a chance to see CI teams Southport and Bloomington South. I’d just like to see a game against Columbus North once. Everybody says the CI is a disaster but is it really? Why? Honest question.

Good catch on Lawrenceburg. Great shot at coming out of the South. 4A South is a tough call. I like Mooresville, Mt. Vernon and East Central. The East Central/Mooresville game at Mooresville last year was a battle. Truly believe folks chronically overlook East Central (usually to their own detriment) because Southeast Indiana may as well be on the moon as far as the rest of the state is concerned.

Souter. Republicans only get what they expect about 50% of the time. Not sure if Cruz is a whack job or not outside of his facial hair decision. Bad call on his part.

As a fan, I personally can’t stand closed conferences.

AWESOME STUFF! Thanks.

It was hot as Hell in Florida....hated coming back....may not after February. So the snow plows were out? BTW, I listened to a great story about Mark Martin and Rusty Wallace hauling an Ed Howe chassis together down from Beaverton, Michigan and having to hole up in some hotel in Indiana that Winter of ‘78....I was out (somehow) running 7-10 miles per day during that time....ultimately it ended up paying for college. If they called it right they holed up in the Gary combination nude strip joint/no-tell hotel I stumbled upon some years later. My guess is they were not so fortunate...

Yes. 5, I hear. Per below, certain appendages (or lack thereof) account for more than legal scholarship.

Where’ve you been? I totally admit to ducking my head as regards politics around here....and I WILL be ducking it again shortly (I hate this political stuff).....but, damn, I take a long trip to Florida and all of a sudden, you’re gone, Temptation is gone and TD PMs me he is leaving. WTF?

The first truth of the Illuminati is that there is no Illuminati. Now...Ancient Aliens....

Jeez, CJ....I have no doubt you might mean it but that screams of all the deep felt sincerity of a Politburo release.

That’s your problem....now that he very gracefully left despite being err....”followed”....yet you are still somehow here despite that. Wow....just wow....apparently the Admins are down with it. I have many friends here that are without any doubt ABSOLUTELY quality people despite the fact I deeply disagree with them...Gonzo, Foxbat...maybe Irishman these days....unclear to me. Doesn’t matter...free country. I would never wish any of them them ill or evenly distantly doubt their quality as people. Hell, I don’t know squat about Muda outside of the GID but I know he is damned principled and ABSOLUTELY consistent...which tells me something about his quality of character. In the end, much like TD, I probably agree with him 75% (maybe more) of the time....though it took TD and me some years to realize it. Still looking forward to arguing with Muda, btw....if this forum survives. Fighting with him seems inherently natural to me. Wouldn’t mind meeting him some day....doesn’t mean we’d like each other....I’m no pushover. For you “youngsters”, I wish you could see the multi page arguments over the last 14 years Muda and I have had (let alone the arguments Trojan Dad and Muda have had). TD was an absolutely straight up quality guy. His creed was God, Family, America, Center Grove and the MIC. He’d fight you every step if he disagreed with you but he was a true believer. Part of the reason he left (and the admins know the others) was that he was going to end up spending more time with his church (clearly unlike me). Damn good man. Honestly, I wish I could be as high a quality guy as Trojan Dad. If he, somehow, needs to leave perhaps I do, somehow, as well.