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    Southern Indiana Football Talk Dominates This Forum

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    31 minutes ago, Miner_Pride said:

    I think it Linton's case....we were climbing the mountain in 1A... getting so close in semi state losses,  and of course there was never a shortage of Linton fans ready and willing to shout the Miners glory into any topic anytime!  It was a heady time in Greene County, and while I defend that most Linton football fans are level-headed and not the outrageous few that got a lot of attention.  Unfortunately we've lost a couple of them in recent years to health failure.  I think the robust Miner folks pulled other locals into the fray as the rivalries both historically then as teams started meeting seemingly every year in Sectional title games, regionals etc.  Yearly there where spirited back n forths with the faithful from North Daviess, North Knox, North Central, Sullivan (altho not 1A)... then of course West Washington, and the battles with Perry Central...through Rockville, North Vermillion, Fountain Central.. then naturally the Scecina, and Ritter heartbreaks... and....well definitely the LCC banter... to the eventual win over Pioneer in 2016 was the pinnacle.  I think the combination of a big talented graduation class and a bump up to 2A and into sectional with state champ Southridge and perennial power Mater Dei contributed to the slow face of boisterous Miner Faithful, altho there were still plenty of us representing.  A lot of the guys I knew on the GID from Linton, and the area kinda came on as their kid or grandkid was coming up through the grades.  A lot of Dads/Gramps/Uncles/older brothers are involved in youth league and junior high programs and of course as Linton was rolling in the late 90's and 2000's winning multiple sectionals.. word of GID talk spread and guys couldn't resist making comments here n there.  

    As those kids graduated, parents sort of did as well, as this many of the GID Linton folks.  I think Linton's 2017 team that lost to 9-3 Ritter, to 14-1 state runner up Eastern Greene (and a game I'd of loved a rematch)... and twice to eventual 2A champ Southridge (17-16, and 20-0 in rematch that was 0-0 at half).... I think that team would have relished a rematch with EG and made a run at seeing Pioneer again.  2018 saw Linton in a losing season for the 1st time sine 1996!  and I was amazed at the amount of negativism that just came from all over.  At 5-6 you'd of thought the world ended...which was crazy considering the youth of that team.. and starting 0-3.   And sounding like the LInton guy I am.... I think each of the 2019, 2020, and certainly last years team could have made solid runs in 1A from the South.  I realize we are 2A and likely will stay there... we are only 2A by 8 students.  So we are a low end 2A school any way you look at it.   The kids have responded well, we just have not gotten over the Mater Dei hump.. .much like we couldn't get over the Ritter and Scecina hump in 1A semi-state.... or the Perry Central stage in 1A Sect 40.  This past year was a tough one to swallow and that class was so much like the state winning 2016 class... and we lose so many to graduation... but a great group coming back albeit big shoes to fill.

     I think a lot of the Miner folks that use to frequent GID have just faded away as they have from actual involvement in the program.  I also think there was an active move to try and get less 'talk' on a forum that could be used as motivation for opponents!  Since the move to 2A we've not been able to hoist a sectional trophy..as opposed to winning 9 out of the last 10 years in 1A.  Honestly it's disappointed to see how people dropped off.  But it's also been sad to watch the  fall out just in attendance at the actual games at the ROy.... more and more people staying home to watch streams or going to the local watering hole and watching from bars and clubs instead of being there in the flesh where these kids need the see the support.   I've always sad... on the air... that Linton fans can be spoiled into just expecting to win and win big.  It isn't always going to be the case, but we've been lucky and blessed to have had some terrific teams in our small town.. .such as last year... and they deserve the kind of turn out at home and away that those teams in the 80's 90's and early 2000's did.   

    yeah.. I miss you 1A .   

     

    Honestly torn if I miss you guys or not. 😂. I still read most Linton threads. Wouldve been interesting to see our 2019 2020 match ups unfold but I seen alot of our most talented teams fall to Linton. 2004 was fun game. 2012 was a good team that ran into such a good defense. But 2015 was my favorite. Was one of my first years on the board and it was me vs 100 fans in the game thread. Game was much closer then the final score of 35-14 as Linton scored 2 late as we got gassed. I remember fans talking about how Linton hadn't allowed 100 yd rusher all season and Landon McPheeters wasn't gonna be different. Had over 100 at halftime if I remember correctly but wasn't enough. 

    I moved out here from Louisville in 5th grade so I wasn't around during WW 93-94 runs so my only 2 regionals we had at that point were both loses to Linton. 19-20 would've been 2 more great games I think. But we may have lost and still been searching for those SS appearances we finally got with you gone. 😂. Of course now we are rebuilding so I really don't wanna see you guys. Maybe in a few years. Holden Bowsman (Phillips son and QB of those SS teams) is now first year on coaching staff. So when he makes his movie moment of winning state as a coach for his father we have to beat Linton on the way. 😉

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    2022 Outlook - 1A

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    3 hours ago, EasyEJay said:

    Covenant returns more playmakers IMO , but a Dave Pasch coached team will always be a tough out in November . Covenant has also done a better job of beefing up there schedule ( Speedway , Adams Central, Heritage Christian, and Park Tutor )  but you can't replicate the schedule of the ICC absolutely brutal conference. 

    I remember when we played them in semi state (2 years ago) their coach was excited about their soph class (will be seniors). Just never know who sticks around. Yes I agree that schedule is much better but didn't seem to matter couple years ago. That team was talented as hell obviously. 

    2022 Outlook - 1A

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    Agree Lutheran from south. Not sure it'll be close (admittedly don't know what CC returns). Just to talk about someone different ill be watching Providence closely. Coming from 2A they have a good style. I assume they replace Perry Central in sectional 48. They could be a quietly good team and they play a good schedule. 

    Blue Bloods - Indiana High School Football

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    1 hour ago, temptation said:

    Illustrating just one of my points above, of the last 10 NFL Super Bowl champions, SEVEN have had higher ranked offenses than defenses for the season when total yards are calculated, including the last five in a row.  

    Perhaps at one time, the "defense wins championships" mantra was true, but the current data says otherwise.  That doesn't stop folks from trotting this one out annually however.

    Nah....it just got changed to "Red Zone Defense wins championships" 😂😂

    Travel rule and is this fair

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    2 hours ago, SenatorFan said:

    So your saying if certain schools wanted to form their own organization they could travel at will, hire and pay officials more, sanction their own tournament, define classes fairly, and everyone could be happy? AND the IHSAA would just disappear?

    I make a motion we form the GIDHSAA and accomplish all the above. Do I hear a second?
     

    @Bobref is hereby nominated as Director of Officiating

    @DE and @temptation are in charge of determining class divisions

    @JustRules will be in charge of travel limitations or lack thereof

    @Muda69 is in charge of the entire boondoggle

    @WWFan is in charge of enrolling member schools

    The floor is now open for additional nominations. 
     

    Where should we hold our first convention?

    😂🤷🏼‍♂️🤦

    I'm in. I'll start my door to door sales pitch soon

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    MSC-PLAC 2022

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    2 hours ago, JQWL said:

    @WWFanI think you should give us a Miner Pride style breakdown of what each team has coming back, projected win total, and insights to the upcoming season!

    Uh....I could for maybe 1 team....maybe. 

     

    1 hour ago, boilerfan87 said:

    Coach Kling was 20-11 in 3 seasons at Triton Central. That's a pretty solid run. It looks like a good hire for Mitchell.

    It doesn't appear as though there are any other changes in either conference. Who returns the most? I think I recall that WW was pretty young last year. Could they be the early favorite for the PLAC or does Paoli bring a lot back. SV was good as well. Do they return that talented QB? 

    Can Brownstown repeat their championship performance? Does SC return enough to challenge Brownstown? That was SC's only loss in the MSC last year. Scottsburg had a nice year last season. Charlestown graduates an All-American at o-line. But they are always tough. 

    We were young. Graduated 6 seniors. I think 2 were starters (Clayton Holloway and Cameron VanCleave). Both lineman. 

    Valley lost alot. Grimes and Chase both gone. I wanna say 11 seniors. Alot of starters. Their basketball team is doing well tho. I think the team could be exciting IF Soph to be QB Deon Edwards sticks to football. He's a major talent but heard he may focus on basketball. I like Valleys system so I'm sure they will be ok. 

    MSC-PLAC 2022

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    Figured we could start this for the 4 of us. Haha. Yesterday Mitchell's Facebook posted Kevin Kling as the new football HC. Not sure if anyone knows anything about him but if you do feel free to share. Good luck to the man. The new facilities they are building look amazing including the turf. 

    Lets follow the Oklahoma Model / Split 6A in 6A1 and 6A2

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    8 minutes ago, HHF said:

    Thats not necessary.  We have classes broken down by enrollment.  That is how it should be.  Then you use tools like the Success Factor and the 1A/2A split to further fine tune the structure to improve competitive balance.  Its not a perfect science, but we are getting closer to optimun balance.   That is the real goal.  

    But you have said no private should be in class A. I'm not here to stir that pot...its a fight I refuse to partake in but more curious how YOU would have all classes shaped up to once all things are done how you think they should be. Just curiosity for me to see the whole picture and not just pieces here and there in different threads. 

    North Central (Farmersburg)

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    Been talking about them in the 1A thread for a few weeks. They are big. They did have some luck against Valley (6 fumbles all recovered by offense for NCF) plus Valley lost their best player in game against Tecumseh. The defense is good. It's gonna he hard to run up the middle against them. Valley scored on a Pass and a punt return. Went nearly 2Qs without a first down. 

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