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1 hour ago, oldtimeqb said:

November 12, 2016

November 10, 2018

What do those two dates have in common? 
 

 

1 hour ago, Lysander said:

Makes a difference......from bitter experience.

Mooresville to Evansville Bosse Enlow Field is about 2 hrs 25 min. Which is a little shorter than Chatard traveling there (about 3 hrs) and much shorter than East Central almost 4 hrs. 

Nov 11 2016 was a Friday and Monrovia traveled to the Reitz Bowl to play Mater Dei (a 2 hr 30 min drive) and beat Mater Dei 35-28. Game time is 7:30pm EST (6:30 pm CST). If the Pioneers leave at say Noon should be more than enough time to get there and do all your normal pre-game routine.

1 hour ago, dmizers3 said:

Care to elaborate

@dmizers3 I wouldn't pay much attention to it. First post by that screen name, and same with the "cathedral poster" with a prediction on the previous page. Probably accounts created yesterday. These big game threads always tend to mysteriously get new screen names with first time posters that like to stir things up. It gets some going sometimes, but when you step back it can look comical. Any rate most of us know who the regular posters for each team are. Then throw in the GID bookie @Olympian06 and always gets a good wager on a big game for a donation to the GID and I love it! lol 

FYI I actually really like New Pal's nickname of the Dragons. It is unique nickname that not many schools have!

12 minutes ago, Staxawax said:

Hmm, there were 2 consecutive non-calls that replay disagreed with....... on East Central's secondary. 

I found that statement kind of odd. Didn't really get what point was trying to be made. Having watched the game I didn't see much that wasn't called that should have been. It really was a rather clean game by both teams.

8 minutes ago, NorthIndysports said:

The question was about who had more "athletes"?   I think the opinion of hundreds of recruiters and position coaches who make it their living to evaluate talent does mean "squat"....... A LOT OF SQUAT!  Is it a perfect measure? No.  The number of All District, All State players might be another 

Of course "athletes" mean squat to recruiters and position coaches. Let me rephrase my statement "who has more athletes will mean jack squat on who wins this game". Better?

8 minutes ago, Screagle said:

#6 hasn’t played offense except in short yardage and FB sets. Numbers won’t look good.  Friday was 1st time he was used as feature RB on offense. He’s a physical DE that wasn’t going to get significant touches until tournament time. Rarely stepped on field on offense in his career. 
 

EM will have to be firing on all cylinders. This team is fully aware of that and understands how to win in November. Still may not be enough to overcome the enormous size and strength of Mooresville. Never mind how athletic Mooresville appears to be. 

Allow me to explain I wasn't typing about #6 Combs for Ev. Memorial. I was typing about #6 K. Evans for Mooresville. He has good numbers at WR, but his brother #13 B. Evans is the better WR. 

How many Lou Holtz are among the Memorial Tigers?

8 minutes ago, Art VanDelay said:

Not to take anything away from Brock Combs, he's a great player, but I wouldn't make that comment after watching Mooresville play EC.  Number 6 and their bookend tackles may have a say in who the best player will be on the field this Friday night.  

#6 has some decent numbers. but #13 will be the better WR. #1 is a very good WR too.

On 11/10/2019 at 8:34 PM, Lysander said:

Any recommendation for good eats pregame?   It’s been a few years but I ate at a great place downtown called “Club Soda”.  Might be too nice for some of the rowdies I may have tagging along, though (if it’s still around).

I’m trying to get my priorities straight.

I heard Lt. Harris said you should visit this place...

20 hours ago, Justasportsfan said:

Almost every Kroger where I live has sushi..for a high school to offer it is phenomenal n extremely rare..if i could send my kid to a school that offered it i probably would.. heck..i was happy for pizza day back in my day..

When you knew you were living the good life! School lunch pizza!!

35 minutes ago, southend said:

Yes , Mooresville has quietly stepped it up this year. They played a very tough schedule. Common sense says Mooresville in this one, I just think home field advantage tips the scale. 

I would say Mooresville stepped it up last year and maintained a steady program this year. They advanced to the Regional's last year losing a tight one to Marion 19-13 finishing 11-2. This year they had 1 more loss than last year in the regular season, but their 2 losses this year were to 5A Decatur Central 24-21 and 5A Whiteland 17-13. They were extremely competitive in both games. Coach Gillin and his staff have done a great job of rebuilding the program and maintaining a strong program.

24 minutes ago, WCGrad92 said:

Just from experience of driving down the Evansville and playing on a Friday Night and winning. Its not IMPOSSIBLE.  Monrovia did it in 2016 driving down on Friday, and playing MD in the Bowl the same evening.

Agreed, Keeping in mind also Monrovia and Mooresville being Southwest outside of Indianapolis is a shorter travel than say teams traveling from the Northeast side of Indianapolis.

30 minutes ago, Temptation said:

Ah, it all comes full circle here on the GID.  City speed vs suburban speed has returned!

Mods, feel free to delete if I am over the line here but I feel it necessary to clarify a common misconception here.  It seems that squads with a high percentage of African-American players (or just more than their upcoming opponent) are labeled as being more "athletic" by folks.  And its not just here.  The media does the same thing, specifically with quarterbacks.  Those who are more mobile (usually more so African-American quarterbacks) are praised by commentators and analysts as being more "athletic" perhaps because they have more of a broad skill set than their counterparts.  Caucasian/white players are labeled as being cerebral/game managers often or as "pocket passers".

It's so nauseating as the stereotype simply has no backing or science.  I assume that the poster above who stated that Cathedral was more "athletic" was basing it off of similar factors.  New Pal, a suburban school, plays many schools outside of the donut counties which are sometimes stereotyped as non-athletic because of their lack of diversity.

New Pal DID play AND beat Center Grove over the last two regular seasons and though CG is not as diverse as many of their MIC counterparts, they seem to hold their own on a regular basis and did crush BD, play with Warren and narrowly lose to NC this past fall (all examples used as they are much more "diverse" than CG). 

As a matter of fact, I KNOW for a fact that when Center Grove and New Pal played that the Trojans boasted the fastest player on the field (athleticism?), and that would hold true were Cathedral the opponent.  Does Cathedral have more team speed?  Perhaps.  But let's not pretend that New Pal is going to be shell shocked on Friday night when the Irish take the field.

Yes, Center Grove IS athletic but it is rarely the reason they are successful.  As I have mentioned before, they have a system that kids are buying into the moment they are potty trained and they have it instilled and run it to perfection on most nights.

 

I guess somebody forgot to tell Jeremy Wariner before he retired about this. That and even Matthew Boling. My contention wasn't that New Pal, Cathedral, or Center Grove don't have speed (each one of them do). My contention about Center Grove is that they have had extremely fast players present and past (can name several fast RB's for CG over the years that also did well in track). My contention is that while speed kills, you can over come that with discipline. Something that all 3 above mentioned programs have, and they have speed as well.

That being said having watched quite a few games. I would say the fastest player that I have watched Cathedral have to defend didn't come from Indiana. They have seen Elder QB Matthew Luebbe the last 2 years and he was lightening fast. Which is a big reason he leads the GCL in rushing yards and he is definitely not African American. I am sure @IndplsCathedral_Dad can elaborate how fast Luebbe was in person, I only saw game film. He definitely has jets.

7 minutes ago, bigfish said:

Thanks! The only place I found online near the high school is Round The Corner Grill, which I assumed will be flooded around 5 pm

New Bethel Ordinary is a must! The best pizza I have ever had in my life. You will enjoy it for sure!

10 hours ago, MDAlum82 said:

I have watched Combs tear up the competition from both sides of the ball for the past 2 years.  Your WR & O lineman may be more talented at their respective positions but Combs will influence all aspects of the game; offense, defense,  - it's been rumored he sells programs before the game & half-price pizza in 4th quarter.  He is the all-around, real deal .

Like his brother who graduated last year, he is one of the best all around high school football players in recent memory in the So Indiana region.  No idea how he ranks as a college prospect but if you view the tape from last week's game vs Central, I think you will be impressed by his dominating play at multiple positions; DE, D line, FB, & RB.  If you can manage to control his overall influence on the game, it will go a long way towards helping Mooresville win. 

  

Brock Combs is a terrific player. Mooresville will definitely have to find a way to stop him Offensively and try to limit his impact defensively. Playing great athletes like Combs will not be something new to Mooresville. They did play a team with an athlete of his caliber this year in Decatur Central's Kenny Tracy. They were fortunate to limit him to 60 yards on 10 carries and 1 Rec for 10 yards. They had to try and bottle up East Central's Fike and Donawerth last week too and were able to keep them limited in rushing. You are more than likely not going to completely shut down Combs, but I agree they will need to manage or try to control his impact on the game. 

8 hours ago, Screagle said:

Well aware of Indy time....just pointing out when game is being played. Never questioned their schedule or the talent they play. 
 

I think EM is huge underdog. Mooresville will have the 3 best players on the field. 

Ev Memorial is not a huge underdog by any stretch of the imagination especially playing at home. Not fooling anyone with that statement. Both teams Memorial and Mooresville will have terrific players on the field. The Pioneers will have their hands full with Pence, Hurley, Combs, McCool, and Russell while on Defense. While on Offense they will have to manage Combs, Auker, Johnson, and Jones. I think both teams will want to establish the run, but both can throw the ball very effectively. It will be a good one for sure.

4 hours ago, Screagle said:

Daunting task having Memorial with 275 male students compete in 4A football. I know this group of seniors are battled tested. Hopefully playing in 15 post season games over 3 years will help. 
 

Not a daunting task at all for Memorial to compete in 4A. I say that because they already play 4A and 5A schools during the regular season and in their conference regardless of their enrollment. 4A schools: Jasper, Northview, Ev Reitz, Ev Central, Ev Harrison. 5A schools Ev North and Castle. The only 2 teams on their schedule that aren't 4A or 5A are Ev Bosse 3A and Ev Mater Dei 2A. 

Mooresville also plays teams above their class and enrollment. 5A schools Plainfield, Decatur Central, Franklin, Whiteland, Perry Meridian. This will be a better game than what some may think. It is an advantage for Memorial to be playing at home, tough to beat the Tigers any place let alone at Enlow. Right now Sagarin has Mooresville as a 6 point favorite which is boosted up from what it was last week. The Mooresville win over East Central gave them a larger boost in Sagarin than Ev Memorials victory over Ev Central because East Central was #1 in 4A at the time in the Sagarin ratings. Ultimately Sagarin doesn't matter but it does show that this game will be closer than some may think.

43 minutes ago, cg_holmeaid said:

Oh Cathedral fans...

I don't believe that is a Cathedral fan. At any rate number of D1 players means jack squat. What does matter is how a team plays together, how disciplined they play, and if they play hard in games. I would say both New Palestine and Cathedral this year check all of those boxes. They play together, they play disciplined (both teams will make mistakes because they are H.S. teens), and they play and work hard. That is why they are successful. I would say Center Grove fits that bill too and that is why they compete so well in the MIC most years with teams that may have more athletic talent than them. Just my 2 cents.

8 minutes ago, fenderbender said:

Yes, seen DC play and they have some jets.   I just think the size differential on paper really stands out.     But that is why the play the game.  Will be interesting to see how it goes.

I don’t want to come off as I feel they will win. I think it will be a great game! I just think they don’t get credit for their team speed just because of their size.

9 minutes ago, fenderbender said:

Memorial have enough speed to overcome Mooresville size?  Just a comment from looking at the rosters.  Mooresville has a couple of 6'4"-6'6" 285lb guys.

Just an honest observation. If you think Mooresville only has size and no speed you will be very surprised. They play in a conference with Decatur central whom has excellent speed and didbjust fine against them.

2 minutes ago, INHSFootball said:

was not saying he was 19 or he was 15. Just wanted to figure it out so I could know the truth

In all honesty what @dmizers3 and @CaptainHook aren’t telling you is he is the Uncle RICO of running backs! Only kidding! lol 

https://images.app.goo.gl/h1z5pjqRbs2sP1uU9

6 minutes ago, CaptainHook said:

I'm gonna chime in on this one.  Not my place to give his age or birthday.  But he would be eligible to play any HS sport he wants in accordance with IHSAA rules.  This rumor needs to go away.

About darn time you chimed in!! Lol just joking, agreed people run with goofy stuff!

4 hours ago, Screagle said:

Lots of good players on the field this time of year. 
 

Mooresville looks damn near unbeatable. Especially by a school with an enrollment of 600 that’s built for 3A football. 
 

I am guessing that’s why Mooresville picked Friday at 6:30. Get down to Evansville, take care of EM, and rest up for SS.  
 

 

Doubt it. Just an FYI 6:30 Evansville time is 7:30 Indianapolis time. Not sure what will come of this game. While some may think the Pioneers haven’t played some talent, I would disagree. Not a lot of players more talented than Kenny Tracy (Decatur Central). They are definitely battle tested (as is Memorial). The Pioneers RB has been out since prior to Martinsville Rd 2 sectionals. They’ve done just fine with his back-up

4 minutes ago, Olympian06 said:

My statement is that weak schedule has produced state titles. 

Got it...don’t get me wrong I wasn’t saying it makes them any less. Just wanted to point out a weak schedule has produced State Titles (see Columbus East and New Pal) playing a tough schedule has also produced State Titles (see cathedral and Chatard).

i definitely get what you are referring to now. My apologies.

3 minutes ago, INHSFootball said:

i really would not say Center Grove is an athletic football team... and if they are to you then okay... 1 game out of many they have played. Cathedral has things new pal has not seen while cathedral has seen everything New Pal has plus more. 

Do not try and argue that.

I wouldn’t get silly. New Pal has athletes too. They will be well prepared. One thing cathedral has not seen this year is a string physical RB like Spegal. They have seen some very good and fast RB’s but Spegal is not like the TB’s they have seen. They will have to play their best for sure!

3 hours ago, Olympian06 said:

Which has produced 2 state championships and a runner up in the last 6 years. 

I’m a little confused by this statement. Are you inferring that Cathedral’s scheduling is less successful? 5 out of the last 10 years have produced State Championships . In all honesty the number of players playing both ways won’t matter in this game. Football can be all about match-ups. I think this game becomes more interesting with the match-uos. Cathedral’s run defense vs New Pal’s run offense, cathedral’s pass defense vs Ne Pal’s pass offense, New Pal’s run defense vs Cathedral’s run offense, and Bew Pal’s pass defense vs Cathedral’s pass offense. 

I mean while it has been referenced Cathedral won games they probably should have lost (according to stats) yet got turnovers in defense or big plays on offense. Don’t they still create those turnovers or execute to get those big plays? Same goes for New Pal don’t they execute to methodically move down the field? Don’t they execute to make big stops?

2 hours ago, Lysander said:

Suggest you get that “tailgate” invite.

Once there, be sure to hold your pinkie finger out after you fill up at the champagne fountain.

Talk about your home on Geist a lot........and your vacation place on Sanibel.  Gotta bring up Sanibel....

You’ll fit right in (these tips work at HSE gatherings also).

Feel free to PM me for any other social tips.

47 minutes ago, Olympian06 said:

@Coach Nowlin I have my annual bet for $50 to the GID.