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    The long awaited New Pal vs Cathedral matchup

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    6 hours ago, crimsonace1 said:

    I climbed on this soapbox in our postgame show tonight as we waited for our postgame interview ... but for those who want to downplay New Palestine's schedule, the Dragons have beaten two regional champs this regular season (6A Center Grove 28-9 & 4A Mt. Vernon 49-7). There was another win against Pendleton Heights, a team that beat regional champ MV in the regular season and played them to the wire in the sectional final. I'm not sure too many teams in the state have two wins vs. semistate participants. 

    There are not many for sure. The only one I can think of is Cathedral: who beat Chatard and Center Grove.

    The long awaited New Pal vs Cathedral matchup

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    5 hours ago, CaptainHook said:

    the only thing that annoyed me in this thread is when posters said that we hadn't seen speed or athtletes like Cathedral had.  As Muda has so graciously pointed out, we are a suburb of Indianapolis.  These boys have seen city speed since second grade.  Played basketball and football against the top athletes Indy has to offer.  Won a Basketball regional semi-final against Avon.  Came within a shot of beating Ben Davis.  Won a state championship in football defeating Zionsville, Michigan City and Decatur Central.  To act like our boys had no idea what they were gonna see is asinine.

    There were a few things that annoyed me. The first like you said the talk about speed which I knew wouldn't have much of an effect because New Pal has great team speed of their own. Another was the talk of D-1 talent. To me when you look at it, it's not like New Pal doesn't have D-1 talent on their team. King is committed to Michigan State, Hook to Toledo, Spegal has interest for sure but I think colleges still lump him as a FB. There was plenty of talent on that field last night in both red and white. Which was why I said D-1 talent will have nothing to do with the outcome of this game. One other thing that was annoying were some of the comments by supporters of other teams making asnine comments.

    4 hours ago, Coach Buchanan said:

    At the end of the day it was 2  great teams in what I thought would be a war. It was a war. class players and coaches. Great effort by both teams.  

    I couldn't agree with you more Coach. Many will wake up look at the box score and see 35-10. What they won't see was the preparation both teams put in. The physicality of the game and effort by both teams. Both coaching staffs had good game plans. In the first half Cathedral controlled the clock at times, mounted drives, were forcing New Pal to throw and getting pressure. They ended up with a TD and a FG instead of 2 TD's like I am sure they had hoped for, but New Pal's D had a lot to do with that. In the 2nd half New Pal set out to do what they wanted creating turnovers which put their offense on the field hit a huge pass play that was crucial. Then they did what they do best run the ball at the D and wear them down and Spegal starts to break big plays. It is definitely key to try and keep the Dragons offense off the field and score points, very difficult to do for 4 quarters because New Pal has great players on Offense and Defense that are very disciplined.

    4 hours ago, Frozen Tundra said:

    I just hope folks stop overlooking teams like New Palestine for playing "weak schedules" and start paying attention to what actually goes on out on the field. Your schedule doesn't mean a freaking thing. Executing on the football field, being disciplined, and having players/coaches that are 100% bought in does. 

    Every time I think New Palestine has finally earned everyone's respect, they play a new tough opponent which brings out another group of clueless doubters. Stop it. 

    New Pal has had my respect since the comeback they had in the State Championship against Snider (even though it was a loss). Schedule gets talked about a lot. Ultimately what matters is the play on the field by the teams. In all honesty Cathedral while they have a rugged schedule, they do so because they have no other choice. Being an independent after week 2 most teams are playing in their conference with no opening. So they pick up these out of state teams. They are fortunate CG and WC have moved their game to week 1 leaving an opening for CG in week 9. It honestly doesn't matter who is on your schedule when you have great coaching and players that work hard and develop their craft.

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    The long awaited New Pal vs Cathedral matchup

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    37 minutes ago, crimsonace1 said:

    Two things he mentioned in pregame interviews - three turnovers a game (he reminded me of that in our postgame conversation tonight, as they got three), and Charlie Spegal's is best when he gets to carry 20+ as he's such a load to bring down, he can wear down a defense. 

    Tonight, carries 1-19 for Spegal: 97 yards, 1 TD
    Carries 20-30: 188 yards, 3 TD with runs of 50, 31 and 64. 

    I have seen over the years the P/P vs Public argument on this board. Coach Ralph brings exactly what teams like Chatard, Cathedral, and others bring to the table. It’s not a secret ingredient it’s hard work in the weight room, great conditioning, great scheme with great coaches, and goals within games they try to attain. 

    Charlie Spegal is special and New Pal will definitely miss him. That being said with Coach Ralph and his staff at the helm New Pal will continue to work hard and have success!

    you broke it down best. It was a tight game. Turnovers can change the outcome of a game in a heart beat. People weee all over Roncalli during their run. To be honest they weren’t special or that much better than everyone else. What they did was not turn the ball over and force you to turn it over ( same as New Pal did tonight granted NPbhas a special player in Soegal)..

     No matter what my favorite New Pal player resides in @CaptainHook‘s household for obvious reasons! Lol

    be sure to keep messaging captain!

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    The long awaited New Pal vs Cathedral matchup

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    19 minutes ago, Olympian06 said:

    PHJ, FootballKing, and IrishCathedralDad are all very knowledgeable football fans. But outside of that, some of these posts were utterly ridiculous, and only added fuel to the fire after New Pal started to pull away. A lot of crow to be eaten tonight, and majority weren’t actually Cathedral fans, just some clowns that thought they knew what they were talking about. 
    Ole 06 doesn’t back down from any trash talking... 😂

    Really outside of 1906 and the one that made their first post in this thread they were all outside of Irish posters whim you named and are very respectful.

    Tonights game was very good. Listen to the radio interview by Coach Ralph prior to the game. He said their goal is 3 turnovers by their D each game. He runs a top notch program!

    The long awaited New Pal vs Cathedral matchup

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    7 hours ago, LC_Bears_04 said:

    New Palestine will win this game because they will control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.

    So you don't think Cathedral's Offensive line and Defensive front 7 are good enough to compete with New Palestine's Offensive line and Defensive front 7?

    I only ask because this is the first that I have seen of a mention of controlling the line of scrimmage. I think it is definitely a worthy topic. of discussion. I have thought of it all week but haven't mentioned much. It is so hard to judge because both teams have fantastic Defensive front 7 D-line and LB's. Both teams have terrific Offensive lines that move really well. Cathedral may be a little bigger on both lines, but regardless both play fantastic. Good point and topic to bring up @LC_Bears_04

    The long awaited New Pal vs Cathedral matchup

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Muda69 said:

    Do you think the New Palestine football program has sent spies to watch Cathedral practices?  Or vice versa?

    No

    1 hour ago, Knightmare said:

    You don't need to send spies to practice to get game film.

     

    I think New Pal's schedule allows them to run some Cathedral stuff at their kids during practice throughout the season, while Cathedral had to focus on the next game.  Did Ralph tell his team it was a Cathedral session? I don't know.  But, what I do know, is the guy has lost 4 games in his career so he's no dummy.

    I think New Palestine is going to game plan to do what they do and I think Cathedral will game plan to do what they do. Ultimately i think both coaches feel if they play their game and execute they will win. I think others try to make it more difficult than it has to be.

    The long awaited New Pal vs Cathedral matchup

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    10 hours ago, INHSFootball said:

    that game was a fluke. star running back and star lineman was out. 1st time ever they beat cathedral. 

    That game was NOT a fluke. Yes 2 Offensive lineman went out early and yes the RB was not 100%, but even if they would not have gone out it still wouldn't have mattered. The game was riddled with 5 turnovers by the Irish and they were forced into many mistakes  throughout by a stout Columbus East defense. Columbus East played more physical and faster, Cathedral's defense ran into a buzz-saw, I think Major and Hogan are still running for TD's. Definitely was not a fluke and Columbus East without a doubt was the better team on the field.

    7 hours ago, indycoach10 said:

    Yeah all Catholic trolls seem to be about the same, but this one seems extra special. Maybe Rodney created a new account.

    I wouldn't call them a Catholic troll. A troll yes. There seems to be a few on this thread constantly trying to stir stuff up

    28 minutes ago, cg_holmeaid said:

    He’s not a Cathedral fan by the looks of it. Bio says Center Grove

    Darn Trojans! Can't you control your peeps!! lol 

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    The long awaited New Pal vs Cathedral matchup

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted · Edited by FastpacedO

    46 minutes ago, Temptation said:

    What in the hell are you talking about and why?  

    Damn this game can’t get here soon enough...

     

    29 minutes ago, dmizers3 said:

    Amen

     

    21 minutes ago, cg_holmeaid said:

    I feel like 8 of the 10 pages have been talking about geography more than football. And if you do the math that’s “at least 75%” of the thread.

    Exactly that is what Muda does best. A game thread and he goes COMPLETELY off topic. Been doing it for years. Don’t quite get why someone who is so against the sport of football spends so much time on a football board. He adds nothing to this great sport. My personal opinion.

    @dmizers3 at least you got my revenge if the nerds 2 quote! 😂

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    Potential Dark Horses By Class

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    24 minutes ago, MICFan34 said:

    6A: Zionsville was able to surprise Bburg in the upset of the tourney so far. Can they keep it rolling against BD even with several injuries to key playmakers? 

    5A: Can Bloomington South beat Floyd Central and then shock Cathedral/New Pal after such an emotional game for those two teams?

    4A: Can Roncalli beat MV and then upset Mooresville or Evansville Memorial? I'm thinking no but if Roncalli can get Memorial at home, crazy things happen at Roncalli Stadium in the tournament.

    3A: How likely of a shot does Marian have against Chatard? Based on Chatard's schedule and scores, it seems like a slim chance but who knows come tourney time. 

    2A: Does HC unseat the defending champ? 

    Surprisingly, all my darkhorses are still alive. Should have sent in a Tourney Pick em lol. 

    I highly doubt regardless of who wins the New Pal / Cathedral game that they will have a let down in playing the way they have played all year because they beat the other team. I say that because the Irish have been in some pretty big games as has New Pal to this point. Regardless which team wins they will move on to the next game in business like approach. Doesn't guarantee they would win the Semi-State but I think you will see they will approach it like any other game.

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