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https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/05/europe/uk-parliament-disintegrating-gbr-intl/index.html

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It's known as the "mother of parliaments" -- one of the oldest legislatures in the world. But in the last two days, the British Parliament has been the center of the mother of all battles.

The new British Prime Minister has fired 20 of his own lawmakers, rebel MPs have seized control of parliamentary business, Johnson's call for a snap general election was rejected and members of the House of Lords squabbled until late in the night on Wednesday.

Government chief whip announces government cave-in at 1.20 am - they are lifting the filibuster after 10 hours, with a commitment that the EU Bill will pass by 5pm Friday. We have stopped no deal - & we can now go home 🆒😊😍🇪🇺

— Andrew Adonis (@Andrew_Adonis) September 5, 2019
The world has watched as the very foundations of British politics shifted in front of their eyes.
On Tuesday, 1.5 million people tuned into BBC Parliament to see an alliance of rebel lawmakers deal the UK government a humiliating blow, seizing control of the Brexit agenda and forcing embattled Prime Minister Boris Johnson to call for a snap general election.
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The Brexit process has drawn attention to the detail of Britain's constitution, procedures, rules, and how strong they are -- or not. And a breakdown of longstanding conventions has raised fears over a full-blown constitutional crisis in the country. Johnson's plan to suspend Parliament in particular has been branded a "constitutional outrage" for limiting the time that MPs have to debate Brexit.
 
Britain's constitution is unwritten, meaning it is sustained largely through precedent, which has left some commentators wondering whether it is still fit for purpose.
 
"There is a fundamental question this [Brexit] is posing to the UK, about whether its uncodified constitution was doing the job they thought it was," said Catherine Haddon, a senior fellow at the Institute for Government, a London-based independent think tank. "Others argue it is not the constitution that's struggling, but politics that are failing."
"It is calling into question constitutional conventions that felt to experts to be strong and intrinsic to our system of government, but you now see political actors starting to talk about whether or not they would adhere to them or how binding they are," Haddon added.
All of this together casts doubt over one of the key messages of the campaign to leave the European Union: that by ending the UK's membership within the bloc, it would "bring back sovereignty" to British Parliament.
 
In reality, the government is often in conflict with Parliament, the opposition and even their own back benches. And that tension has ratcheted up as the clock ticks down to October 31, the current deadline for the UK to quit the EU.
 
If the seizure of Parliament Wednesday by a cross-party alliance or rebel lawmakers is any indication, a majority of members in the House feel that Johnson's government doesn't show enough respect for the institution.

 

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And this is the governmental system that some, including the GID's own Dante Estonia, view as superior to the American system?

 

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3 hours ago, Muda69 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/05/europe/uk-parliament-disintegrating-gbr-intl/index.html

And this is the governmental system that some, including the GID's own Dante Estonia, view as superior to the American system?

 

This happened in Australia and Canada. The Crown got involved, and the issue was settled.

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8 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said:

This happened in Australia and Canada. The Crown got involved, and the issue was settled.

So every country needs a "Crown".  Got it.

 

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13 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

So every country needs a "Crown".  Got it.

 

How did you jump to that conclusion from what I wrote?

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Just now, DanteEstonia said:

How did you jump to that conclusion from what I wrote?

Previous discussions about governmental systems and your preferred system.

 

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56 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said:

How did you jump to that conclusion from what I wrote?

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1 hour ago, DanteEstonia said:

How did you jump to that conclusion from what I wrote?

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5 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Previous discussions about governmental systems and your preferred system.

 

I have advocated the parliamentary system, but it’s possible to have a parliamentary system without a monarch.

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11 hours ago, DanteEstonia said:

I have advocated the parliamentary system, but it’s possible to have a parliamentary system without a monarch.

But I don't recall a monarch-less parliamentary system being one that you personally advocate.  Is it?

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2 hours ago, Muda69 said:

But I don't recall a monarch-less parliamentary system being one that you personally advocate.  Is it?

Cite your sources.

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1 minute ago, DanteEstonia said:

Cite your sources.

If I had access to the previous iteration of the GID OOB forum I could.  

So you deny you have made such statements in the past?

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37 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

If I had access to the previous iteration of the GID OOB forum I could.  

So you deny you have made such statements in the past?

I have not advocated for a monarchy as a replacement system of government for the USA.

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1 hour ago, DanteEstonia said:

I have not advocated for a monarchy as a replacement system of government for the USA.

And that is not what I said you said.

 

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21 hours ago, gonzoron said:

Libertarians like Muda favor a monarchy without a parliamentary system.

https://71republic.com/2018/06/30/libertarian-monarchism-monarchy-success/

No, I don't favor such a system.   How did you come to that conclusion Gonzo?  Because a libertarian living in Poland supports such a system, therefore Muda69 must as well?   

 

11 hours ago, DanteEstonia said:

 

Thanks for proving my point.

 

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2 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said:

That you called me a monarchist?

The truth hurts sometimes.

 

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20 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

The truth hurts sometimes.

 

Calling me a monarchist, considering I’m not, is libel.

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2 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said:

Calling me a monarchist, considering I’m not, is libel.

Good luck.....

Haven't you labeled people as "tories"??

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6 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

Good luck.....

Haven't you labeled people as "tories"??

Tory=Conservative; old and apt definition.

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4 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said:

Tory=Conservative; old and apt definition.

And they were monarchists.

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1 minute ago, DanteEstonia said:

Tory=Conservative; old and apt definition.

Tory is also connected to individuals in the colonies that supported the crown...might even refer to them as monarchists.....;)

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45 minutes ago, DanteEstonia said:

Calling me a monarchist, considering I’m not, is libel.

You could have fooled me.

 

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