2024 NFL Season Catch all

[Sparty]

Travis Kelce is such a douche bag

[Coach Nowlin]

11 minutes ago, Sparty said:

Travis Kelce is such a douche bag

Why? 

14 minutes ago, Irishman said:

So, I was out with my dog for a while and came back to the replay ruling of a catch. I did not see the original play, but with the replays they did show after ruling it a catch, I am thinking 'wait, so Buffalo was on offense and they called that a catch'. There is no f'ing way that was a catch for KC........unreal. 

I disagree 

TThe ball never moved once I hit the ground like many other NFL catches that hit the ground and don't move in the process of being caught as long as that possession is gained prior to hitting the ground 

 

To me that's what happened.  

 

Upon the completion of the process of the catch, both players look like to me had the ball which would constitute offensive possession as the offensive gets the right to the ball on joint possession 

 

[temptation]

29 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Why? 

I disagree 

TThe ball never moved once I hit the ground like many other NFL catches that hit the ground and don't move in the process of being caught as long as that possession is gained prior to hitting the ground 

 

To me that's what happened.  

 

Upon the completion of the process of the catch, both players look like to me had the ball which would constitute offensive possession as the offensive gets the right to the ball on joint possession 

 

I assume, based on the timing of his post, he was referring to Kelce getting into Hamlin’s face on the Mahomes TD and then when the Buffalo DL got up in his face, back pedaling and throwing his hands the air as if he was the victim.

Edited January 27, 2025 by temptation

[Sparty]

45 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Why? 

I disagree 

TThe ball never moved once I hit the ground like many other NFL catches that hit the ground and don't move in the process of being caught as long as that possession is gained prior to hitting the ground 

 

To me that's what happened.  

 

Upon the completion of the process of the catch, both players look like to me had the ball which would constitute offensive possession as the offensive gets the right to the ball on joint possession 

 

He starts so much shit and never gets penalized.  Started the crap after the TD towards Hamlin, gets bumped/head butted by a Bills player and they only penalize the bills player.  All in front of the refs.  

17 minutes ago, temptation said:

I assume, based on the timing of his post, he was referring to Kelce getting into Hamlin’s face on the Mahomes TD and then when the Buffalo DL got up in his face, back pedaling and throwing his hands the air as if he was the victim.

That’s a BINGO

[Irishman]

Feel horrible for the Bills. 

[Coach Nowlin]

1 hour ago, temptation said:

I assume, based on the timing of his post, he was referring to Kelce getting into Hamlin’s face on the Mahomes TD and then when the Buffalo DL got up in his face, back pedaling and throwing his hands the air as if he was the victim.

thought it was in reference to the play before half, the nice catch by Worthy, Bills challenged and lost 

1 hour ago, Sparty said:

He starts so much shit and never gets penalized.  Started the crap after the TD towards Hamlin, gets bumped/head butted by a Bills player and they only penalize the bills player.  All in front of the refs.  

That’s a BINGO

Fair enough,  

I counter point, there is probably MANY players who you shall probably refer to in that same regard

16 minutes ago, Irishman said:

Feel horrible for the Bills. 

Tough history, From the Jim Kelly Era to now, but hey, Big time players make big itme plays in big time games, Kinkaid had a shot to do that.......and failed

Also, on key 4th downs, I did not like the Orbit motins that Joe Brady was calling, that offensive player becomes useless that far from the L.O.S. let alone the line to gain.    Ran it again on the big 4th down and 5 they had to chuck it that Kinkaid dropped, granted tough catch, Coach Spagnola dialed up the pressure and no where near enough guys to protect it.   Yikes 

 

[Sparty]

Agreed.  Just don’t care for Kelce.  Whiney DB.  Allen is quickly becoming an NFL/soccer type flopper.  

4 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

thought it was in reference to the play before half, the nice catch by Worthy, Bills challenged and lost 

Fair enough,  

I counter point, there is probably MANY players who you shall probably refer to in that same regard

Tough history, From the Jim Kelly Era to now, but hey, Big time players make big itme plays in big time games, Kinkaid had a shot to do that.......and failed

Also, on key 4th downs, I did not like the Orbit motins that Joe Brady was calling, that offensive player becomes useless that far from the L.O.S. let alone the line to gain.    Ran it again on the big 4th down and 5 they had to chuck it that Kinkaid dropped, granted tough catch, Coach Spagnola dialed up the pressure and no where near enough guys to protect it.   Yikes 

 

Allen did miss the wide open back out of the backfield on that 4th down huck and chuck to Kinkaid.  Kinkaid does need to make that catch.  

[Coach Nowlin]

 

But hey he doesn't have a very expensive Man Purse ........ Right !!   

 

[Sparty]

7 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

 

But hey he doesn't have a very expensive Man Purse ........ Right !!   

 

Oh man.  Don’t get me started on this clown lol

[temptation]

Last night certainly didn't do anything to silence the conspiracy/rigged crowd huh?

I need Bob to defend the two officials having wildly different spots on the 4th and 1 that was ruled short, which likely cost Buffalo points on that drive.

[Muda69]

11 hours ago, temptation said:

I assume, based on the timing of his post, he was referring to Kelce getting into Hamlin’s face on the Mahomes TD and then when the Buffalo DL got up in his face, back pedaling and throwing his hands the air as if he was the victim.

Yep. That incident truly showed what a whiny bully Kelce is.  He loves to try and intimidate those smaller than him but when somebody his size or larger shows up he becomes a big pussy.

 

Edited January 27, 2025 by Muda69

[Bash Riprock]

11 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

thought it was in reference to the play before half, the nice catch by Worthy, Bills challenged and lost 

 

 

Yeah Coach...if you say so.....

1 hour ago, Muda69 said:

Yep. That incident truly showed what a whiny bully Kelce is.  He loves to try and intimidate those smaller than him but when somebody his size or larger shows up he becomes a big pussy.

 

You ain't lying....he's the league's biggest turd...by far.

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Last night certainly didn't do anything to silence the conspiracy/rigged crowd huh?

I need Bob to defend the two officials having wildly different spots on the 4th and 1 that was ruled short, which likely cost Buffalo points on that drive.

Plus, KC scored a TD when they inherited the ball on a shorter field.

[Coach Nowlin]

4 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Yeah Coach...if you say so.....

 

In the reference to the calll being correcxt or that my commet was directed at said call? 
 

[Coach Nowlin]

Heavy is the head that wears the crown 

 

KC Chiefs have had the crown 

its natural to see the "hate" on them because of the saturation of the America's new team, the KC Chiefs

all NFL has to do is beat them.   Simple right 

rest of it is just sour grapes, I prefer to enjoy just like I did with Brady's run, I can personally seperate off field choices, ( T Swift, Mahomes commericials, etc etc) from product on the field.    

I understand others who want to root against them, have at it, I thoughourly enjoy watching them play as they are tremendious team who all know what to do when to do it throughtout the entire game.   Very Very little mental lapses

 

[gonzoron]

2 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

rest of it is just sour grapes

It's not sour grapes from me. I acknowledge they are an excellent team. They are excellent enough to win without the referee's being told to assist them. Whether that is coming straight from the NFL, or just the official's natural bias, I don't think we'll ever get the true answer, but it isn't necessary and that is the problem I have with them.

[Coach Nowlin]

5 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

It's not sour grapes from me. I acknowledge they are an excellent team. They are excellent enough to win without the referee's being told to assist them. Whether that is coming straight from the NFL, or just the official's natural bias, I don't think we'll ever get the true answer, but it isn't necessary and that is the problem I have with them.

Thast one's opinion when it comes to how you view referee decisions and rule applications from your cozy home

I just cannot get behind the narrative out there that NFL a multi billion dollar business is able to control referees choices in games.    

BTW:  by the stats, Josh Allen and Bills benefitted more from "calls" there way then the Chiefs did all year, Chiefs ranked 18th in the league in call benefit metrics that were tracked.  That means there was 17 other teams, more than half of the NFL. 

Perhaps the NFL has a way to make up that data too?  

[gonzoron]

14 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

I just cannot get behind the narrative out there that NFL a multi billion dollar business is able to control referees choices in games.

The NFL is an entertainment industry and the referees are on their payroll, of course they control them. They're in business to maximize profit. 

 

16 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Thast one's opinion

Yes, it's my opinion based on what I see during the games. 

 

17 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Perhaps the NFL has a way to make up that data too?

When you're compiling your own data, you can make any claim you want.

The NBA and WNBA are the same scenario.

All of professional sports may be that way, but football and basketball are the only ones I pay any attention to.

[Coach Nowlin]

https://www.nflpenalties.com/

 

Except this is an independent website not affiliated with the NFL that tracks all the penalties in their impact on the game 

 

But hey your eyes says one thing 

Factual data says another 

Cheers 

There is too much money on the line and all that when you are in bed with gambling websites as corporate sponsorship 

The integrity of that entertainment availability in this nation and cost the world makes everybody who thinks that everything is rigged complete and utterly false 

I know it's fun to run with those internet narratives. It's just not factual in nature 

 

 

[gonzoron]

13 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

https://www.nflpenalties.com/

 

Except this is an independent website not affiliated with the NFL that tracks all the penalties in their impact on the game 

 

But hey your eyes says one thing 

Factual data says another 

Cheers 

There is too much money on the line and all that when you are in bed with gambling websites as corporate sponsorship 

The integrity of that entertainment availability in this nation and cost the world makes everybody who thinks that everything is rigged complete and utterly false 

I know it's fun to run with those internet narratives. It's just not factual in nature 

 

 

[Coach Nowlin]

So you didn't click the link 

 

To scroll down. 

 

To see in plain print "Not affiliated with the NFL" 

 

 

[Sparty]

Facts don’t matter to some people 

[Bash Riprock]

14 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Why? 

I disagree 

TThe ball never moved once I hit the ground like many other NFL catches that hit the ground and don't move in the process of being caught as long as that possession is gained prior to hitting the ground 

 

To me that's what happened.  

 

Upon the completion of the process of the catch, both players look like to me had the ball which would constitute offensive possession as the offensive gets the right to the ball on joint possession 

 

That's how the officials on the field felt about it and there wasn't enough to overturn the call I guess.  There are plenty of former NFL players this morning that would disagree with your rationale.  Many felt the receiver had not clearly established possession BEFORE the ball hit the ground.  But I can understand how replay would have had a tough time overturning the call on the field.

Edited January 27, 2025 by Bash Riprock

[Bash Riprock]

55 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Thast one's opinion when it comes to how you view referee decisions and rule applications from your cozy home

I just cannot get behind the narrative out there that NFL a multi billion dollar business is able to control referees choices in games.    

BTW:  by the stats, Josh Allen and Bills benefitted more from "calls" there way then the Chiefs did all year, Chiefs ranked 18th in the league in call benefit metrics that were tracked.  That means there was 17 other teams, more than half of the NFL. 

Perhaps the NFL has a way to make up that data too?  

Cmon Coach...its not about total calls and you know that....its the timing of those calls that really matter.  Seems the questionable type call that benefit the Chiefs happen at critical parts of games and on downs that really matter.  And its not just penalties, but decisions such as the 4th down Buffalo play that old Gene even disagreed with on the telecast.  When you have former players that are either in the booth, on social media, or on TV shows the next morning discussing the questionable calls week after week, I am not sure how you so easily dismiss these discrepancies.  

[Coach Nowlin]

6 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

That's how the officials on the field felt about it and there wasn't enough to overturn the call I guess.  There are plenty of former NFL players this morning that would disagree with your rationale.  Many felt the receiver had not clearly established possession BEFORE the ball hit the ground.  But I can understand how replay would have had a tough time overturning the call on the field.

Right on

I will dive heeper I am sure this week

From just last night watching over the replay, I thought the Ball was possessed by Bills player, nose of ball hit ground while the white gloves of the Bills player had it wrapped on the side of the ball, when ball made contact nose down, I did not see the ball budge at all, that would constiute a completed catch based on countless other plays since the new adaptation of the catch rule, when the Chiefs WR was on his back, is when he stole the ball to create the joint possession.   

Thats how I saw it last night but have yet to go back to watch other videos and other trained officials and how it unfolds

 

[Bash Riprock]

1 minute ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Right on

I will dive heeper I am sure this week

From just last night watching over the replay, I thought the Ball was possessed by Bills player, nose of ball hit ground while the white gloves of the Bills player had it wrapped on the side of the ball, when ball made contact nose down, I did not see the ball budge at all, that would constiute a completed catch based on countless other plays since the new adaptation of the catch rule, when the Chiefs WR was on his back, is when he stole the ball to create the joint possession.   

Thats how I saw it last night but have yet to go back to watch other videos and other trained officials and how it unfolds

 

I understand how you saw it...no question.  But I am reading several former NFL players this morning that do not agree with your thoughts. But hey....all that matters is how the officials saw it.  I believe a 3rd down play correct? I guess when you are the champs...critical calls and decisions seem to fall their way.  A great team blessed with lady luck I suppose.....