Andrean at LCC

[Tippy]

Andrean will play LCC for the 2nd time in school history.  Andrean beat LCC 30-12 in 2022.  That game was at Andrean.  I think LCC is a  better team this year than in 2022.  LCC went 6-3 in the regular season in 2022 and 9-0 this year.  LCC is a more confident team this year.  Andrean has shutout the last 3 teams they have played, including a 35-0 win over Bremen.  LCC is not going to score 27 points on Andrean like Merrillville did, so I think it will be a low scoring game like the WL game.  It might come down to a FG.  I think LCC will win 17-14.  If anyone has box scores or player stats from the season, feel free to post them.  I know you can get that info other places, but I would like to see all the info right here.

[Jetackow]

6 hours ago, Tippy said:

 I think LCC will win 17-14.  If anyone has box scores or player stats from the season, feel free to post them.  I know you can get that info other places, but I would like to see all the info right here.

I don’t know much about either team but based on what I have heard and the small bits I have seen from each, I think it should be a good game. Here is what I could gather-some may be off, as they had games noted with different scores and I was too lazy to check:

Andrean’s 2024 season:
August 23, 2024,@ Merrillville High School (5A),Lost 0-27
August 30, 2024,@ Valparaiso High School (5A) ,Lost 21-28
September 6, 2024,@ Kankakee Valley High School (4A) ,Won 28-7
September 13, 2024,vs. Munster High School(4A) ,Won 28-0
September 20, 2024,@ Hobart High School (4A) ,Lost 24-27 (OT)
September 27, 2024,vs. Highland High School (4A) ,Won 38-7
October 4, 2024,vs. Bishop Chatard High School (3A) Lost 14-39
October 11, 2024,@ Hanover Central High School (3A). ,Won 3-0
October 18, 2024,vs. Lowell High School (4A) ,Won 27-14
October 25, 2024,vs. Whiting High School (2A),Won 41-0
November 1, 2024,@ Wheeler High School (2A) ,Won 19-0
November 8, 2024,vs. Bremen High School (2A) Won 35-0

LCC 2024 season:
August 23, 2024,@ Seeger High School,Class 2A,Won 55-6
September 6, 2024,@ Logansport High School,Class 4A,Won 23-21
September 13, 2024,vs. Twin Lakes High School,Class 3A,Won 56-21
September 20, 2024,@ West Lafayette High School,Class 3A,Won 12-7
September 27, 2024,vs. Rensselaer Central High School,Class 2A,Won 17-6
October 4, 2024,vs. Tipton High School,Class 2A,Won 35-13
October 11, 2024,@ Benton Central High School,Class 3A,Won 79-0
October 18, 2024,vs. Guerin Catholic High School,Class 3A,Won 22-21
October 25, 2024,@ Delphi Community High School,Class 2A,Won 63-21
November 1, 2024,vs. Western Boone High School,Class 3A,Won 28-20
November 8, 2024,@ North Montgomery High School,Class 3A,Won 60-6

[1st_and_10]

10 hours ago, Jetackow said:

I don’t know much about either team but based on what I have heard and the small bits I have seen from each, I think it should be a good game. Here is what I could gather-some may be off, as they had games noted with different scores and I was too lazy to check:

Andrean’s 2024 season:
August 23, 2024,@ Merrillville High School (5A),Lost 0-27
August 30, 2024,@ Valparaiso High School (5A) ,Lost 21-28
September 6, 2024,@ Kankakee Valley High School (4A) ,Won 28-7
September 13, 2024,vs. Munster High School(4A) ,Won 28-0
September 20, 2024,@ Hobart High School (4A) ,Lost 24-27 (OT)
September 27, 2024,vs. Highland High School (4A) ,Won 38-7
October 4, 2024,vs. Bishop Chatard High School (3A) Lost 14-39
October 11, 2024,@ Hanover Central High School (3A). ,Won 3-0
October 18, 2024,vs. Lowell High School (4A) ,Won 27-14
October 25, 2024,vs. Whiting High School (2A),Won 41-0
November 1, 2024,@ Wheeler High School (2A) ,Won 19-0
November 8, 2024,vs. Bremen High School (2A) Won 35-0

LCC 2024 season:
August 23, 2024,@ Seeger High School,Class 2A,Won 55-6
September 6, 2024,@ Logansport High School,Class 4A,Won 23-21
September 13, 2024,vs. Twin Lakes High School,Class 3A,Won 56-21
September 20, 2024,@ West Lafayette High School,Class 3A,Won 12-7
September 27, 2024,vs. Rensselaer Central High School,Class 2A,Won 17-6
October 4, 2024,vs. Tipton High School,Class 2A,Won 35-13
October 11, 2024,@ Benton Central High School,Class 3A,Won 79-0
October 18, 2024,vs. Guerin Catholic High School,Class 3A,Won 22-21
October 25, 2024,@ Delphi Community High School,Class 2A,Won 63-21
November 1, 2024,vs. Western Boone High School,Class 3A,Won 28-20
November 8, 2024,@ North Montgomery High School,Class 3A,Won 60-6

Both are 2A schools.  

I think LCC will win this one.  

[foxbat]

20 hours ago, Tippy said:

Andrean will play LCC for the 2nd time in school history.  Andrean beat LCC 30-12 in 2022.  That game was at Andrean.  I think LCC is a  better team this year than in 2022.  LCC went 6-3 in the regular season in 2022 and 9-0 this year.  LCC is a more confident team this year.  Andrean has shutout the last 3 teams they have played, including a 35-0 win over Bremen.  LCC is not going to score 27 points on Andrean like Merrillville did, so I think it will be a low scoring game like the WL game.  It might come down to a FG.  I think LCC will win 17-14.  If anyone has box scores or player stats from the season, feel free to post them.  I know you can get that info other places, but I would like to see all the info right here.

If it's coming down to a field goal, both teams are about in the same boat by the numbers.  Both have field goal kickers that are 50% prior to last week's outing.  Both are 5 for 10.  LCC's Henry has a long of 36 while Andrean's Cusick's longest was 38.  Henry has two games where the field goals were in tight games ... 3A West Lafayette where he went 2-2 in LCC's 12-7 win and 1-2 in LCC's 17-6 win over RCHS.  Cusick has two games also that were also tight ... a 3-0 win over Hanover Central and a 27-24 win over Hobart.

Two of Henry's misses in the Logansport game were not on him and, if I recall correctly, he had a rush kick against Guerin that he missed.  In warm-ups, he tends to be fairly consistent around the 40-yard mark.  He's hit beyond 50 in warm-up, but not necessarily consistently.

One advantage that LCC has this season is that they are 2-2 on 2-point tries including a game-winner in the last minute, in a 22-21 comeback win over Guerin.  Under Nay, they also did the same thing to win the state title, 29-28, over Lutheran in 2019, so it's not an anomaly to the Knights if they have to do it again Friday night.

The Knights have had the ability over the last four games to run both the one-minute offense at a constant rate as well as a more ground-oriented, clock and field killing offense too.  Having the practice at both should add to their confidence, as well as their toolbox, heading into Friday.

[BendNotBreak]

3 hours ago, foxbat said:

If it's coming down to a field goal, both teams are about in the same boat by the numbers.  Both have field goal kickers that are 50% prior to last week's outing.  Both are 5 for 10.  LCC's Henry has a long of 36 while Andrean's Cusick's longest was 38.  Henry has two games where the field goals were in tight games ... 3A West Lafayette where he went 2-2 in LCC's 12-7 win and 1-2 in LCC's 17-6 win over RCHS.  Cusick has two games also that were also tight ... a 3-0 win over Hanover Central and a 27-24 win over Hobart.

Two of Henry's misses in the Logansport game were not on him and, if I recall correctly, he had a rush kick against Guerin that he missed.  In warm-ups, he tends to be fairly consistent around the 40-yard mark.  He's hit beyond 50 in warm-up, but not necessarily consistently.

One advantage that LCC has this season is that they are 2-2 on 2-point tries including a game-winner in the last minute, in a 22-21 comeback win over Guerin.  Under Nay, they also did the same thing to win the state title, 29-28, over Lutheran in 2019, so it's not an anomaly to the Knights if they have to do it again Friday night.

The Knights have had the ability over the last four games to run both the one-minute offense at a constant rate as well as a more ground-oriented, clock and field killing offense too.  Having the practice at both should add to their confidence, as well as their toolbox, heading into Friday.

Who is quicker??

 

[foxbat]

6 minutes ago, BendNotBreak said:

Who is quicker??

 

LCC's defense is quick; especially on the edges.  LCC's running game beats you to death.  This is not the Anthrops' backfield.  Looks much more like the Brad Schrader and Jake Milakis kinds of carriers.  LCC has gone for it on 4th a lot this season and they are confident enough in that ground game to do it, and make it, on 4th and 3 or 4 situations and do it between or right off the tackles.  Meister's a beast and, just when you think he's contained, the give the ball to Cain.  Meister's averaging 5.9 a carry and Cain is averaging 7.3.  Of course, there's also Metzger who's not afraid to take off if the receivers are covered ... he's averaging a bit over 7 per carry when he gets flushed out of the pocket.

Rush light and LCC will run those backs at you.  Clog the line with rushers and they'll pick at you all day long.  Bring the backs up for the ticky-tack passes and they'll send someone long.  As @Tippy mentioned, they look a lot more confident this season and add to that that they don't seem to panic on 3rd and long as they are not consigned to punting the ball off is they only pick-up six on 3rd and 10.

[Jetackow]

14 hours ago, 1st_and_10 said:

Both are 2A schools.  

I think LCC will win this one.  

Thanks! Fast typing and my laziness. I didn’t even notice this error despite knowing that both Andrean and LCC were 2A. Despite not knowing much about either teams, this is a game I think will a good one! 

[CoachMack219]

20 hours ago, foxbat said:

LCC's defense is quick; especially on the edges.  LCC's running game beats you to death.  This is not the Anthrops' backfield.  Looks much more like the Brad Schrader and Jake Milakis kinds of carriers.  LCC has gone for it on 4th a lot this season and they are confident enough in that ground game to do it, and make it, on 4th and 3 or 4 situations and do it between or right off the tackles.  Meister's a beast and, just when you think he's contained, the give the ball to Cain.  Meister's averaging 5.9 a carry and Cain is averaging 7.3.  Of course, there's also Metzger who's not afraid to take off if the receivers are covered ... he's averaging a bit over 7 per carry when he gets flushed out of the pocket.

Rush light and LCC will run those backs at you.  Clog the line with rushers and they'll pick at you all day long.  Bring the backs up for the ticky-tack passes and they'll send someone long.  As @Tippy mentioned, they look a lot more confident this season and add to that that they don't seem to panic on 3rd and long as they are not consigned to punting the ball off is they only pick-up six on 3rd and 10.

This game is going to be so fun to watch based on @foxbat's assessment on LCC's offense. Andrean's defense is essentially equipped to defend this type of attack. They keep 7 in the box at all times in their 3-4 Base and their 4 men in the Secondary are pretty darn good. Both Safeties are D1 guys as most know but the Corners are pretty good players as well. I've thought all year that Andrean was a little light/ small up front with their STARTING D-line group but they have quality big fellas to plug in if needed. Should be fun to watch the LCC offense (which sounds explosive and fun to watch) vs the Andrean Defense, which has been ROLLIN' as of late. 

[First_Backer_Inside]

Can't they both just win and go to 3A already.

[BendNotBreak]

28 minutes ago, CoachMack219 said:

This game is going to be so fun to watch based on @foxbat's assessment on LCC's offense. Andrean's defense is essentially equipped to defend this type of attack. They keep 7 in the box at all times in their 3-4 Base and their 4 men in the Secondary are pretty darn good. Both Safeties are D1 guys as most know but the Corners are pretty good players as well. I've thought all year that Andrean was a little light/ small up front with their STARTING D-line group but they have quality big fellas to plug in if needed. Should be fun to watch the LCC offense (which sounds explosive and fun to watch) vs the Andrean Defense, which has been ROLLIN' as of late. 

Sounds like a challange for the Lcc O line vrs that D... gonna need a run game... that 1st step is gonna b a biggie.....

[BendNotBreak]

Kinda reminds me of the 2014 1st RC game... hmmmm

[Tippy]

45 minutes ago, BendNotBreak said:

Kinda reminds me of the 2014 1st RC game... hmmmm

It reminds me of the semi-state game in 2014.  RC beat LCC 17-14 and they beat Bremen by 35 points (48-13) the week before.  Andrean beat Bremen by 35 points last week.  I only hope that LCC is able to kick the FG this time and win the game.

[BendNotBreak]

41 minutes ago, Tippy said:

It reminds me of the semi-state game in 2014.  RC beat LCC 17-14 and they beat Bremen by 35 points (48-13) the week before.  Andrean beat Bremen by 35 points last week.  I only hope that LCC is able to kick the FG this time and win the game.

Good comparison Tippy! ... RC was at hm as well... however; it was the second meeting tween them.. some familiarity involved... hmmm

[BendNotBreak]

If i recall Tippy... RC had an entirely new O ready ta go for use later in that 2nd game that put em over the top... 

[Coach Nowlin]

6 hours ago, First_Backer_Inside said:

Can't they both just win and go to 3A already.

Nah, can't happen that way:   SELFISHLY speaking:  GO ANDREAN.   Earn that promotion to 3a, then LCC figures out how to not earn enough points to stay in 2a, and BOOM.  Both gone.  only way that happens.    🙂

 

2 hours ago, BendNotBreak said:

Good comparison Tippy! ... RC was at hm as well... however; it was the second meeting tween them.. some familiarity involved... hmmm

 

1 hour ago, BendNotBreak said:

If i recall Tippy... RC had an entirely new O ready ta go for use later in that 2nd game that put em over the top... 

Correct after you almost 100% called the 2-0 victory ( was 0-0 heading into the 4th, we got a safety then scored after that with short field to make final 9-0) we spent 30-45 mins a day and an hour every Saturday working the Semi State LCC Script, knowing we both would see each other in week 14.   We sprinted to a 14-0 lead as we figured out how to maniupulate where Cronk and Anthrop were going to be and ran our QB downhill and able to seal Cronk and Anthrop and Yeagley#25) to create the running room and sprung that surprise.   Put us over the edge and rest as they say is history, 10 years later 

[Yuccaguy]

17 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Nah, can't happen that way:   SELFISHLY speaking:  GO ANDREAN.   Earn that promotion to 3a, then LCC figures out how to not earn enough points to stay in 2a, and BOOM.  Both gone.  only way that happens.    🙂

 

 

Correct after you almost 100% called the 2-0 victory ( was 0-0 heading into the 4th, we got a safety then scored after that with short field to make final 9-0) we spent 30-45 mins a day and an hour every Saturday working the Semi State LCC Script, knowing we both would see each other in week 14.   We sprinted to a 14-0 lead as we figured out how to maniupulate where Cronk and Anthrop were going to be and ran our QB downhill and able to seal Cronk and Anthrop and Yeagley#25) to create the running room and sprung that surprise.   Put us over the edge and rest as they say is history, 10 years later 

I absolutely LOVE the "Glory Days"  

 

[BendNotBreak]

1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Nah, can't happen that way:   SELFISHLY speaking:  GO ANDREAN.   Earn that promotion to 3a, then LCC figures out how to not earn enough points to stay in 2a, and BOOM.  Both gone.  only way that happens.    🙂

 

 

Correct after you almost 100% called the 2-0 victory ( was 0-0 heading into the 4th, we got a safety then scored after that with short field to make final 9-0) we spent 30-45 mins a day and an hour every Saturday working the Semi State LCC Script, knowing we both would see each other in week 14.   We sprinted to a 14-0 lead as we figured out how to maniupulate where Cronk and Anthrop were going to be and ran our QB downhill and able to seal Cronk and Anthrop and Yeagley#25) to create the running room and sprung that surprise.   Put us over the edge and rest as they say is history, 10 years later 

It was a Masterful Coaching job.. n a Magnificent Bomber Team...

[foxbat]

1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Nah, can't happen that way:   SELFISHLY speaking:  GO ANDREAN.   Earn that promotion to 3a, then LCC figures out how to not earn enough points to stay in 2a, and BOOM.  Both gone.  only way that happens.    🙂

 

If Andrean wins this year, with the new SF numbers to stay up, LCC could make it to regional next season and still move down to 1A.  They'd have to win regionals next year to get enough points to stay up if Andrean beats them this season.

Not sure why SF moved to 3 points to stay.  Certainly wasn't considering any p/p schools when that decision was made. 

[BendNotBreak]

Kudos Nowlings n Crew!

 

[BendNotBreak]

The Magnifent 11.... 😊

[BendNotBreak]

17 minutes ago, foxbat said:

If Andrean wins this year, with the new SF numbers to stay up, LCC could make it to regional next season and still move down to 1A.  They'd have to win regionals next year to get enough points to stay up if Andrean beats them this season.

Not sure why SF moved to 3 points to stay.  Certainly wasn't considering any p/p schools when that decision was made. 

Yeah...When a program is in place... like one u were a part of.. that Lil school.. can at times... outpreform expectations.... 🤕

[BendNotBreak]

44 minutes ago, foxbat said:

If Andrean wins this year, with the new SF numbers to stay up, LCC could make it to regional next season and still move down to 1A.  They'd have to win regionals next year to get enough points to stay up if Andrean beats them this season.

Not sure why SF moved to 3 points to stay.  Certainly wasn't considering any p/p schools when that decision was made. 

Still the closest Lcc has ever got to a 2A Title... is when ther were 3 classes 😉

[BendNotBreak]

Alota zeros for Andrean.. Despite my moniker... the Lcc O will need to figure it out to get a win....

 

https://scoreboard.homestead.com/football/logsAndrean.htm#load

[Tippy]

1 hour ago, BendNotBreak said:

Alota zeros for Andrean.. Despite my moniker... the Lcc O will need to figure it out to get a win....

 

https://scoreboard.homestead.com/football/logsAndrean.htm#load

I think Metzger will have to use his feet and do a lot of running to win this game.

[foxbat]

On 11/13/2024 at 3:47 PM, Tippy said:

I think Metzger will have to use his feet and do a lot of running to win this game.

Metzger averages roughly three carries a game with an average of 7.3 yards per carry.  More important than the yards per carry is that plenty of those carries are conversions for 1st downs that keep drives alive.