Transfers Happening?

[Justasportsfan]

On 3/17/2025 at 2:01 AM, PDB26 said:

I agree, generally, that the probability of starting for a team with 49 rostered players––according to MaxPreps, for what that's worth––is higher than it would be at a school like Carroll, but that general probability also decreases with each additional transfer––if we assume that roster size will remain relatively stable year over year. Probability doesn't do anything to address the question of why we should assume the underclassmen and backups transferring from large schools will be better or more likely to play than those staying at small schools.

I am on the fence with this one...Back when Harding was open you had guys that could play 5a(6a) ball while starters on the 5a squad would never touch the field at Harding...To make it worse, some of those 5a kids received conference accolades simply from putting on the jersey at a larger school. The starting safety at Carroll will for the most part always get the "hype" over the PH kid. Being a traditional power carries weight with the media and coaches as well..

[23andCounting]

6 hours ago, Justasportsfan said:

I am on the fence with this one...Back when Harding was open you had guys that could play 5a(6a) ball while starters on the 5a squad would never touch the field at Harding...To make it worse, some of those 5a kids received conference accolades simply from putting on the jersey at a larger school. The starting safety at Carroll will for the most part always get the "hype" over the PH kid. Being a traditional power carries weight with the media and coaches as well..

I do think Harding is a bit of an anomaly though. I would argue that they had more talent per capita than any school in the state. 

[Robert]

On 6/19/2025 at 1:55 PM, Justasportsfan said:

I am on the fence with this one...Back when Harding was open you had guys that could play 5a(6a) ball while starters on the 5a squad would never touch the field at Harding...To make it worse, some of those 5a kids received conference accolades simply from putting on the jersey at a larger school. The starting safety at Carroll will for the most part always get the "hype" over the PH kid. Being a traditional power carries weight with the media and coaches as well..

Not every year.  There would be some good kids, yes, but...  

[23andCounting]

51 minutes ago, Robert said:

Not every year.  There would be some good kids, yes, but...  

There are some coaches who could have won 2A every year if they were at Harding.............just my opinion. I'm talking about a run that would have put Harding as the best dynasty the State of Indiana has ever seen. Think Kevin Wright's Warren Central teams, only at the 2A level. The only difference between Harding and WC was enrollment. 

[Justasportsfan]

2 hours ago, Robert said:

Not every year.  There would be some good kids, yes, but...  

Eh..nothing wrong with strong links replacing weak ones..separates blue from red on occasion 

[Robert]

4 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

There are some coaches who could have won 2A every year if they were at Harding.............just my opinion. I'm talking about a run that would have put Harding as the best dynasty the State of Indiana has ever seen. Think Kevin Wright's Warren Central teams, only at the 2A level. The only difference between Harding and WC was enrollment. 

yawn.

[23andCounting]

10 hours ago, Robert said:

yawn.

That's it? 

[temptation]

Transfer portal alive and well here in central Indy…

[23andCounting]

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Transfer portal alive and well here in central Indy…

Good grief. The already strong get stronger? Or are good players bouncing from one good program to another. I was hoping transfers would close the gap in 6A, not widen it. 

[Justasportsfan]

I seen Leo Qb1 is now at Carroll (FW) with the qb whisperer. I need to give a few more 100.00 handshakes before the end of the month!😉

[23andCounting]

Per a respected source in Fort Wayne:

Carroll picks up a QB from Leo. Former QB1 Sullivan was a transfer from Homestead. How come the Chargers aren't developing guys from within?

Huntington North gets a QB from Concordia. Second year coach for the Vikings doesn't seem to be messing around.

New Haven picks up a pretty good assistant coach named Sherwood Haydock. That pick-up alone guarantees New Haven at least four wins this year, up from one a year ago.

 

[temptation]

1 hour ago, 23andCounting said:

Good grief. The already strong get stronger? Or are good players bouncing from one good program to another. I was hoping transfers would close the gap in 6A, not widen it. 

Well, the one I just heard about had no choice…

[23andCounting]

25 minutes ago, temptation said:

Well, the one I just heard about had no choice…

You'll have a few of those. Fort Wayne apparently has a system in place to encourage kids to stay within their district, but that won't stop the occasional kid wanting to transfer due to personality conflict with coach or overload at certain positions. 

[Justasportsfan]

25 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

You'll have a few of those. Fort Wayne apparently has a system in place to encourage kids to stay within their district, but that won't stop the occasional kid wanting to transfer due to personality conflict with coach or overload at certain positions. 

Do you think that system will actually work? Parents usually have it figured out by the time their kid gets to a certain age. Imo alumni tend to favor their old stomping grounds when dealing with their own kiddos unless they move school districts. I understand  them wanting to teach schematics from the pee-wee level yet everyone loves a proven winner. With todays world kids can get recruited or even drafted while not playing much high school ball yet when a player talks to his pals they know who could make a run at a state title. Be a star player for school A and maybe win a sectional game or two vs being a star player for school B with aspirations of a deep playoff run, more fanfare, and possibly more offers.

[23andCounting]

40 minutes ago, Justasportsfan said:

Do you think that system will actually work? Parents usually have it figured out by the time their kid gets to a certain age. Imo alumni tend to favor their old stomping grounds when dealing with their own kiddos unless they move school districts. I understand  them wanting to teach schematics from the pee-wee level yet everyone loves a proven winner. With todays world kids can get recruited or even drafted while not playing much high school ball yet when a player talks to his pals they know who could make a run at a state title. Be a star player for school A and maybe win a sectional game or two vs being a star player for school B with aspirations of a deep playoff run, more fanfare, and possibly more offers.

That's not an opinion, that's a fact. I think kids will always move from district to district based on that alone. 

I just read a good article regarding the PAL and Metro trending down while school leagues forming at 1st grade are trending up. Loyalty to a program might be a little stronger when you start in that school's system in the 1st grade. PAL and Metro are more of a free for all when kids graduate from those programs. So yes, that system might work somewhat. Someone from Indy might be able to better answer that question, this type of system isn't new to programs down there. 

[Robert]

On 6/22/2025 at 8:48 AM, 23andCounting said:

That's it? 

Well, when I taught at Harding, I saw that it took a special kind of coach just to teach there, not to mention coach there, so you'll have that.  You might say the same thing about New Haven now, but what do I know?  

Edited June 25, 2025 by Robert

[Justasportsfan]

39 minutes ago, Robert said:

Well, when I taught at Harding, I saw that it took a special kind of coach just to teach there, not to mention coach there, so you'll have that.  You might say the same thing about New Haven now, but what do I know?  

Very true! I had the pleasure of being a teacher's assistant for the year I was enrolled, I was blessed with effective study habits I guess... Those teachers and coaches were built different. If you did either..kudos to you!

[23andCounting]

1 hour ago, Robert said:

Well, when I taught at Harding, I saw that it took a special kind of coach just to teach there, not to mention coach there, so you'll have that.  You might say the same thing about New Haven now, but what do I know?  

Makes sense. Harding still reminds me of Warren Central, just seven times smaller. I think the Warriors have 11 state titles, almost half of those by the same coach. And to win consistently, you have to have a large staff and some guys underneath you who know what they're doing. It's more than the head coach, it's building a program. Look no further than Adams Central. 

I'm looking forward to seeing what New Haven does this year with an amped up coaching staff. 

[Robert]

3 hours ago, Justasportsfan said:

Very true! I had the pleasure of being a teacher's assistant for the year I was enrolled, I was blessed with effective study habits I guess... Those teachers and coaches were built different. If you did either..kudos to you!

I know more Harding/Harding area teachers who are principals (good principals) and higher administration, up to and including the IDOE (not that they agree with the politicians, but they know their education fact/theory) than any other area school.  That says a lot.    Yes, I need an editor when I write.  🙂