2025 College Football Season

[Komets2727]

6 minutes ago, temptation said:

1.  Maybe, just MAYBE the candidate(s) have the most important game of their season approaching?  Everyone is not Lane Kiffin.  

2.  Did you notice that "rumblings" of contract extensions at Bama and ASU were leaked last week yet have not been signed?

3.  Did you see the about face on candidate 1B yesterday when asked about the job for the second time?

4.  A dumpster fire?  A top 10 recruiting class incoming (only two have left thus far) and 15+ starters returning next year?  Hardly.

Michigan is using a well-known search firm to vet potential candidates.  They used the same firm to hire current basketball coach Dusty May who looks like a home run thus far.

Rushing this process may very well be what got them in to the current situation in which they find themselves.  Harbaugh announced his departure for the NFL two weeks after the national championship game and Moore was named the heir apparent without any real formal interview process.  He was the candidate most likely to keep the glue (particulary Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant) of returnees from that squad together as the players loved him.

Once again, I often get accused of derailing threads but this broad thread of "2025 College Football Season" has now become "Michigan obsessed" just over 48 hours before the playoff.

Every one in line waiting for their turn to "Stick it to Temp", lol.

Had Michigan rushed this decision and named someone immediately, this board would also have referred to things as a "dumpter fire" and questioned the decision.  Its truly a lose/lose for some of you.

Michigan has time.  A lot of time?  No.  But time, nonetheless.  No one surprising has hit the portal and Biff is running the show and Texas actually has more opt outs for the Citrus Bowl thus far than do the Wolverines.  That tells me something.

Now, are they guaranteed to land one of Candidates A/B?  Certainly not, but the fact that candidate A isn't even beloved on his own campus (especially if he loses Friday night) and candidate B changed his tone drastically yesterday also tells me something.

 

1. DeBoer is at probably the best program in the 2000’s. Other than a delusional fan base, kind of like Michigan, in Tuscaloosa, please don’t try and sell Michigan as a better job than Alabama. Last I checked, Dillingham does not have a CFP game coming up yet haven’t seen him bolt for Ann Arbor.

2. Those schools are doing no different than Indiana did with Cignetti by trying to extend their contracts yet Indiana is praised for it. What is the difference?

3. My bet is that Dillingham has been told that he is a second choice at Michigan to DeBoer and that he needs to wait out the process. 

4. When hasn’t Michigan had a top 10 recruiting class? Recruiting hasn’t been the problem at Michigan, coaching and cheating has been the problem. Somehow, if/when Michigan doesn’t achieve greatness next year, it will be because they are the youngest team in the nation for the 3rd year in a row…

It is hilarious as anyone can go ahead and read articles about Michigan being the dirtiest program in the country the last 5 years, there are a ton of these out there, yet the virtuous Temp will have you believe they are bleach clean. 

Michigan is playing in the who cares bowl against Texas, two of the biggest disappointments in all of college football this year after Penn State. Enjoy it. 

 

1 hour ago, gonzoron said:

NO, they are not. Do you ever have anything positive to say about any University?

Love to hear this explanation 

[temptation]

34 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

1. DeBoer is at probably the best program in the 2000’s. Other than a delusional fan base, kind of like Michigan, in Tuscaloosa, please don’t try and sell Michigan as a better job than Alabama. Last I checked, Dillingham does not have a CFP game coming up yet haven’t seen him bolt for Ann Arbor.

2. Those schools are doing no different than Indiana did with Cignetti by trying to extend their contracts yet Indiana is praised for it. What is the difference?

3. My bet is that Dillingham has been told that he is a second choice at Michigan to DeBoer and that he needs to wait out the process. 

4. When hasn’t Michigan had a top 10 recruiting class? Recruiting hasn’t been the problem at Michigan, coaching and cheating has been the problem. Somehow, if/when Michigan doesn’t achieve greatness next year, it will be because they are the youngest team in the nation for the 3rd year in a row…

It is hilarious as anyone can go ahead and read articles about Michigan being the dirtiest program in the country the last 5 years, there are a ton of these out there, yet the virtuous Temp will have you believe they are bleach clean. 

Michigan is playing in the who cares bowl against Texas, two of the biggest disappointments in all of college football this year after Penn State. Enjoy it. 

 

Love to hear this explanation 

1.  And you never want to be the guy to follow a legend.  Another 4 loss season due to a first round CFP exit at Bama and they will be done with him.  Its different down there.  Add in the Michigan ties he has on his staff and the fact that he publicly stated he wanted the job last time it was open.  

Dillingham knows he is plan B and is awaiting DeBoer's answer which will not come until after this week's CFP game. ASU is his alma mater and he lives on the same block as his parents.  He has stated that ASU is his home and likely has reservations about uprooting the entire family,

Michigan is as good of a job as Alabama in the NIL era.  

2.  Those schools made public statements about something being in the works but nothing has been signed.  When Cignetti was extended, it happened without a public statement prior.  Those schools are doing their jobs.

3.  Yes.

4.    Michigan's last 10 classes:

2026:  11th...   2025:  6th...  2024:  16th...  2023:  17th  2022:  9th...  2021:  13th...  2020:  10th...  2019:  8th... 

2018:  22nd...  2017:  5th...plenty of non-top 10 classes

5.  If Michigan were such a dumpster fire, where are all of the transfers and bowl opt outs.  They have relied on great player development and more often than not out perform their recruiting rankings...(probably more so because of "the signs" I bet though).  

And you keep putting words in my mouth.  Never said they were "bleach clean" rather the cheating "scandal" is way overblown and has been proven as such.  I've gone over this ad nauseum on this board so I won't bore you with the details and facts that get in the way of your outrage.

Texas, Clemson, Penn State, Florida, LSU, FSU, South Carolina were all much bigger disappointments than Michigan this year.  The Wolverines were ranked outside of the top 10 in the preseason and finished 0.5 above their projected Vegas win total and finished in the top 20.

You are such a hater.

 

[Komets2727]

52 minutes ago, temptation said:

1.  And you never want to be the guy to follow a legend.  Another 4 loss season due to a first round CFP exit at Bama and they will be done with him.  Its different down there.  Add in the Michigan ties he has on his staff and the fact that he publicly stated he wanted the job last time it was open.  

Dillingham knows he is plan B and is awaiting DeBoer's answer which will not come until after this week's CFP game. ASU is his alma mater and he lives on the same block as his parents.  He has stated that ASU is his home and likely has reservations about uprooting the entire family,

Michigan is as good of a job as Alabama in the NIL era.  

2.  Those schools made public statements about something being in the works but nothing has been signed.  When Cignetti was extended, it happened without a public statement prior.  Those schools are doing their jobs.

3.  Yes.

4.    Michigan's last 10 classes:

2026:  11th...   2025:  6th...  2024:  16th...  2023:  17th  2022:  9th...  2021:  13th...  2020:  10th...  2019:  8th... 

2018:  22nd...  2017:  5th...plenty of non-top 10 classes

5.  If Michigan were such a dumpster fire, where are all of the transfers and bowl opt outs.  They have relied on great player development and more often than not out perform their recruiting rankings...(probably more so because of "the signs" I bet though).  

And you keep putting words in my mouth.  Never said they were "bleach clean" rather the cheating "scandal" is way overblown and has been proven as such.  I've gone over this ad nauseum on this board so I won't bore you with the details and facts that get in the way of your outrage.

Texas, Clemson, Penn State, Florida, LSU, FSU, South Carolina were all much bigger disappointments than Michigan this year.  The Wolverines were ranked outside of the top 10 in the preseason and finished 0.5 above their projected Vegas win total and finished in the top 20.

You are such a hater.

 

Nah, not an overall hater, just hate cheaters. I will never apologize for that. If there was ever any point that my team cheated, my outrage would be the same as now. For future reference, my most disliked teams: 1) Notre Dame, 2) Alabama, 3) Texas, 4) Penn State, 5) Michigan/Ohio State. Love IU and truthfully love rooting for the underdog schools. 

[temptation]

12 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Nah, not an overall hater, just hate cheaters. I will never apologize for that. If there was ever any point that my team cheated, my outrage would be the same as now. For future reference, my most disliked teams: 1) Notre Dame, 2) Alabama, 3) Texas, 4) Penn State, 5) Michigan/Ohio State. Love IU and truthfully love rooting for the underdog schools. 

Damn, only one traditional SEC school in your top five?

No USC?

I hate to tell ya but…if you think “sign stealing” with an iPhone is bad…

Edited December 17, 2025 by temptation

[Komets2727]

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Damn, only one traditional SEC school in your top five?

No USC?

I hate to tell ya but…if you think “sign stealing” with an iPhone is bad…

I know most of the SEC schools have cheated over the years, so does everyone else including you. Same with Michigan, they have cheated multiple times and ways, but Temp is just like those idiot zealots in the SEC, denial, denial, denial. iPhone cheating is all you cop to? LMAO!!! When I listed my top 5, it wasn’t just about cheating schools, it was more geared to fan bases and the delusional, cult-line following that surrounds them. Proof means nothing to them, they follow whatever their coach says, the media spews out, and their “insider” newsletter that raves about the greatness of their university. 

[temptation]

6 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

I know most of the SEC schools have cheated over the years, so does everyone else including you. Same with Michigan, they have cheated multiple times and ways, but Temp is just like those idiot zealots in the SEC, denial, denial, denial. iPhone cheating is all you cop to? LMAO!!! When I listed my top 5, it wasn’t just about cheating schools, it was more geared to fan bases and the delusional, cult-line following that surrounds them. Proof means nothing to them, they follow whatever their coach says, the media spews out, and their “insider” newsletter that raves about the greatness of their university. 

1.  There are different levels to cheating.

2.  “Sign stealing” is prevalent in the sport.  Every team has a sign stealer and it’s legal.  The Michigan “scandal” was due to the staffer buying tickets for others to go to games and scout on his behalf.

3.  Not sure if the “insider” portion of your statement is intended as a low blow but I have been critical plenty of the flaws that my favorite team has.

4.  By chance I assume you are also IU basketball fan?  So I assume you also hate your own fan base?  You described them to a T midway through your statement.

[Komets2727]

16 minutes ago, temptation said:

1.  There are different levels to cheating.

2.  “Sign stealing” is prevalent in the sport.  Every team has a sign stealer and it’s legal.  The Michigan “scandal” was due to the staffer buying tickets for others to go to games and scout on his behalf.

3.  Not sure if the “insider” portion of your statement is intended as a low blow but I have been critical plenty of the flaws that my favorite team has.

4.  By chance I assume you are also IU basketball fan?  So I assume you also hate your own fan base?  You described them to a T midway through your statement.

Scandal was sign stealing? That’s it??!! It goes so far beyond that and you know it. Why does Harbaugh basically have a lifetime ban? Stallions as well. Moore got suspended for 2-3 games, other sanctions against the university. You are better than this. This is exactly what I was referring to…

Different levels of cheating, another excuse. Cheating is cheating, plain and simple. Black and white, not a gray area. 

Hated the entire time Sampson was the head coach at IU. Hated it. Didn’t watch. Dude is a lifetime cheater, now doing it at Houston. Having said that, no bigger cheater in basketball than Kentucky…
 

[temptation]

16 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Scandal was sign stealing? That’s it??!! It goes so far beyond that and you know it. Why does Harbaugh basically have a lifetime ban? Stallions as well. Moore got suspended for 2-3 games, other sanctions against the university. You are better than this. This is exactly what I was referring to…

Different levels of cheating, another excuse. Cheating is cheating, plain and simple. Black and white, not a gray area. 

Hated the entire time Sampson was the head coach at IU. Hated it. Didn’t watch. Dude is a lifetime cheater, now doing it at Houston. Having said that, no bigger cheater in basketball than Kentucky…
 

I was referring to the “cult like behavior” and delusion of IU basketball fans but oh well.

Go buy a mirror…might do you some good.

Edited December 17, 2025 by temptation

[Bash Riprock]

What’s been discussed prior….

 

[Muda69]

Instead of Texas-Oregon and Notre Dame-Ole Miss, we're fed CFP slop

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/12/18/cfp-first-round-games-group-of-five-guarantee-tulane-james-madison-college-football-playoff/87812938007/?tbref=hp

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The only way to attack this stupidity is with reality. 

If Oregon were playing James Madison in September, and Mississippi were playing Tulane at the same time, we’d call them body-bag games. 

Show up as the low-tier fodder you’re paid to be, take your $1 million check (or more) and return home with an ugly loss.

Instead it’s December, and 12 people who were simply following equally stupid rules, made them College Football Playoff games. 

Seriously, what are we doing here?

Instead of a CFP first-round weekend of Texas at Oregon, and Notre Dame at Ole Miss, we get charity games. Everyone gets a trophy, baby. 

How absolutely preposterous can this be? 

College football has never been more front of mind in the American sports culture, an explosion of popularity unlike anything we’ve seen this side of the NFL. Through all its unintended problems over the past four years of paradigm change, the sport has only gotten stronger. 

It’s damn-near bulletproof. 

And here we are, at the showcase moment of the season, are we’re still allowing stragglers to disrupt and damage the way college football determines a national champion. 

It’s bad enough the postseason is run through a CFP selection committee of inherently biased personalities (see: former coaches, and current athletic directors). It’s worse that the committee is given archaic guidelines counterproductive to the health and growth of the sport.

At the top of the list: a guaranteed spot for at least one Group of Five champion. This season, there are two — because 12 people on that committee actually looked at ACC champion Duke and James Madison and thought, yeah, let’s go with another Group of Five team.

 

Only in college football can you be penalized for playing at the elite level of the sport, and rewarded for playing in the low-rent district. It makes zero sense until you realize who’s running this thing. 

The same fine folks who were willing to spend tens of millions in legal fees in an attempt to keep money from players, who were willing to eat one of their own (the Pac-12) in a blatant money grab to supplement the cash they knew they’d lose in the legal battle with players, are the same people who gave us this monumental joke of a “playoff.”

That would be the presidents and chancellors of the power conferences, who send walking orders to the conference commissioners, who then try to explain the nonsensical ideas to you, the consumer — who spend millions upon millions to be part of the annual four-month, white-knuckle escape from their daily lives.

 

The very least those presidents and chancellors can do is give consumers a postseason that’s worthy of the regular season. And that’s the key to this utterly comical way of determining a champion. 

The best 12 teams — however they are determined — won’t be suiting up for the CFP. But why?

If the presidents and chancellors are willing to take players to the mat in a legal fight, they surely aren’t concerned about the Group of Five schools threatening legal action. 

If the presidents and chancellors can't convince Congress to get involved to fix the unbridled free agency in the sport, they can’t be concerned that the most dysfunctional body on the planet will get involved if the Group of Five is told you have to be ranked in the top 12 to earn a spot in the playoff.  

If the presidents and chancellors aren’t concerned about the public relations disaster of players and coaches changing teams annually picking away at the integrity of the game, they surely won’t care about public trust when Group of Five loyalists start whining about access. 

You want access? Be one of the best 12 teams in the sport, according to the selection committee. Or however they decide to rank the teams moving forward. 

Because right now, we have two Group of Five teams — both of which have coaches who have already taken jobs with power conference teams — on the verge of getting their doors blown off in what should be college football’s marquee moment. 

The only way to attack stupidity is with reality. 

And end this charity program beginning next season.

 

[Bash Riprock]

From The Orlando Sentinel about Michigan Football

 

[Bash Riprock]

35 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

From The Orlando Sentinel about Michigan Football

 

Another from The Detroit Free Press

[Bobref]

On 12/17/2025 at 12:57 PM, Komets2727 said:

For future reference, my most disliked teams: 1) Notre Dame, 2) Alabama, 3) Texas, 4) Penn State, 5) Michigan/Ohio State.

Yay!! We’re #1!!

Seriously, with you as a hater, we must be doing a lot of things right. Good to know we’re living rent-free in that prime real estate between your ears. 😅😂🤣

[Komets2727]

4 hours ago, Bobref said:

Yay!! We’re #1!!

Seriously, with you as a hater, we must be doing a lot of things right. Good to know we’re living rent-free in that prime real estate between your ears. 😅😂🤣

Good to be #1 at something…

[temptation]

41 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

Good to be #1 at something…

Hey, easy now.  They are the #1 team not playing in a postseason game.

[Bash Riprock]

Interesting stat….

[Irishman]

[temptation]

36 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Interesting stat….

 

[Komets2727]

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Hey, easy now.  They are the #1 team not playing in a postseason game.

Like I said, they are #1 at something…

[Bobref]

A new name has apparently entered the Michigan conversation. Eli Drinkwitz of Missouri is emerging, while Dillingham tries to decide what he’s going to do. Funny name. At least it’s not “Biff.”

https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/news/64-million-college-football-coach-emerges-as-candidate-to-replace-sherrone-moore-michigan-eli-drinkwitz

[temptation]

30 minutes ago, Bobref said:

A new name has apparently entered the Michigan conversation. Eli Drinkwitz of Missouri is emerging, while Dillingham tries to decide what he’s going to do. Funny name. At least it’s not “Biff.”

https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/news/64-million-college-football-coach-emerges-as-candidate-to-replace-sherrone-moore-michigan-eli-drinkwitz

Current situation.

1.  DeBoer is target 1.  Tonight's game will tell a lot as in the event of an Alabama win, he likely falls off the list as Michigan simply cannot wait until after the new year to hire a coach with the winter transfer portal approaching.  All of these guys claiming to "not having heard from Michigan" are playing the game as agents are the ones doing the talking at this stage.

2.  Dillingham is an interesting one.  Pretty young by coaching standards and not sure Michigan is comfortable with such an unexperienced guy.  He'd be #1 otherwise as his development of QB's is top notch and players on the current team seem intrigued.  The rumor is that ASU has an NIL budget just north of $3 million which does not bode well for long term success year to year.  ASU guy from day 1 and lives on the same street as his parents so it'd be a big decision.

3.  Jedd Fisch was option #3 but the firm found some dirt on him that was damning and disqualifying.  Nothing earth shattering but nonetheless he has fallen off the list.

4.  Other names mentioned (serious candidates only) should the top two fall off:  Jeff Brohm, Clark Lea, Eli Drinkiwitz, Kyle Whittingham and Biff Poggi.

Most in Michigan circles don't think it will go past option 2 but I guess we will see.

Edited December 19, 2025 by temptation

[Bash Riprock]

On 12/17/2025 at 3:52 PM, temptation said:

1.  There are different levels to cheating.

Different levels of integrity as well?? 

[temptation]

5 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Different levels of integrity as well?? 

Sure.  Whatever you say man.

No doubt you were a Bob Knight guy though right?

Also, why not 10 posts from you about the alcoholic Ohio University coach banging the undergrad?

Doesn’t fit your narrative?

I couldn’t imagine my favorite program having the best season in its history and remaining so obsessed with the winningest program in the sport’s history.

You do you though.

Edited December 19, 2025 by temptation

[23andCounting]

30 minutes ago, temptation said:

Sure.  Whatever you say man.

No doubt you were a Bob Knight guy though right?

Also, why not 10 posts from you about the alcoholic Ohio University coach banging the undergrad?

Doesn’t fit your narrative?

I couldn’t imagine my favorite program having the best season in its history and remaining so obsessed with the winningest program in the sport’s history.

You do you though.

You seem angry. 

[Bash Riprock]

15 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

You seem angry. 

An angry elf.....