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Minneapolis Police Killed George Floyd, Then Failed To Protect Property Owners From Riots


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https://reason.com/2020/05/28/minneapolis-police-killed-george-floyd-then-failed-to-protect-property-owners-from-riots/

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Police in Minneapolis catalyzed Wednesday night's violent protests by killing George Floyd on Monday. They've since done a terrible job of protecting innocent property owners from being victimized by the rioting that's erupted in response to Floyd's death.

Floyd was killed Monday night after being stopped by four officers with the Minneapolis Police Department (MPD) on suspicion of forgery. During his arrest, one of the officers held his knee on Floyd's neck for eight minutes while the man complained that he couldn't breathe. Floyd later died in the hospital.

Video of the incident, and later factual discrepancies in the police account of the event, was enough to get all four officers fired on Tuesday, and for the U.S. Department of Justice to open a civil rights investigation into Floyd's death.

Neither move has been enough to mollify many in Minneapolis, who've taken to the streets for two nights of demonstrations that have turned increasingly violent.

On Tuesday, protestors vandalized police vehicles and threw rocks at a local MPD precinct building where the four fired officers involved in Floyd's death were assigned. Police responded with rubber bullets and tear gas.

Things escalated dramatically last night when further demonstrations resulted in the looting of local businesses. At least 16 buildings were damaged in the protests, according to the city's fire chief.

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Obviously, the destruction of businesses that had nothing to do with Floyd's death is unjustified. Anyone guilty of vandalism or theft during the past few days of protest deserves to be punished.

None of this relieves police of their responsibility to ensure public order or protect innocent people and businesses from being violated.

In response to questions about last night's destruction, Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo put the blame onto outside agitators, saying, "People involved in the criminal conduct last night were not known Minneapolitans." Perhaps he should look closer to home when trying to assign blame for the root of the destruction of the past few days.

So exactly what would have mollified these many in Minneapolis who have resorted to violence?   The immediate sentencing and execution of these four police officers?

 

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54 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

https://reason.com/2020/05/28/minneapolis-police-killed-george-floyd-then-failed-to-protect-property-owners-from-riots/

So exactly what would have mollified these many in Minneapolis who have resorted to violence?   The immediate sentencing and execution of these four police officers?

 

How about the guy not drive his knee into the neck of the man he had in cuffs? 

That said, I do think a more immediate arrest could have kept things from escalating to the point it did with the protests. 

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6 minutes ago, Irishman said:

How about the guy not drive his knee into the neck of the man he had in cuffs? 

That said, I do think a more immediate arrest could have kept things from escalating to the point it did with the protests. 

This same Police Department where these LEO's were employed left the guy with the itchy knee on patrol even after there were 18 complaints filed against (of which 16 were still open in internal affairs)  and the blank staring Officer Thao had 6 complaints (1 that was still open) and was involved in an MPD lawsuit back in 2017.  Apparently the brass at MPD didn't have the balls to relieve these guys from duty, or the Police Union was pretty strong.  

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/28/us/minneapolis-officer-complaints-george-floyd/index.html

Agreed, immediate arrests would have helped.  But who is it that is in charge in Minneapolis.....(who are putting every effort they can into trying to blame this on Trump instead of themselves or the officers)

 

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https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/29/derek-chauvin-arrested-george-floyd-death-minneapolis-police-officer/

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — Fired Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin has been arrested four days after George Floyd’s fatal arrest that sparked protests, rioting and outcry across the city and nation, and Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman announced he has been charged with murder and manslaughter, with the charges scheduled to be released shortly.

On Friday, John Harrington, commissioner of the Minnesota Department of Public Safety, announced that Chauvin was taken into custody by the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension.

“We have now been able to put together the evidence that we need. Even as late as yesterday afternoon, we did not have all that we needed,” Freeman said, before saying that he was unable to speak to specific pieces of evidence and which one specifically was needed to file charges.

“This is by far the fastest that we’ve ever charged a police officer,” Freeman said.

Chauvin is the former officer in the video seen around the world with his knee on Floyd’s neck. He’d been with Minneapolis police for 19 years.

It was not immediately clear what the expected charges Chauvin could face are. Answers will likely be provided by Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman, as he has scheduled a press conference at 1 p.m. concerning a “major development” in the case.

 

So that means it's over then?

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8 minutes ago, swordfish said:

So that means it's over then?

I hope not. The other officers were complicit, and there are issues with the department that need to be cleaned up as you pointed out in the previous post. 

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22 minutes ago, swordfish said:

This same Police Department where these LEO's were employed left the guy with the itchy knee on patrol even after there were 18 complaints filed against (of which 16 were still open in internal affairs)  and the blank staring Officer Thao had 6 complaints (1 that was still open) and was involved in an MPD lawsuit back in 2017.  Apparently the brass at MPD didn't have the balls to relieve these guys from duty, or the Police Union was pretty strong.  

 

Bingo.  Another one of the problems with having Public Section Unions.

 

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George Floyd’s Death Must Be a Catalyst for Accountability

https://www.cato.org/blog/officer-involved-killing-george-floyd

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The scene is horrifying, yet all too familiar. In a viral video from Minneapolis on Monday, a white police officer presses his knee against the neck of a handcuffed, unresisting black man who begs him to get off, then loses consciousness and later dies. Meanwhile, another officer stands guard between his partner and protesting onlookers, ensuring that no one can come to the aid of the dying man. The man’s name is George Floyd, and he is the latest victim of our near‐zero‐accountability policy for law enforcement.

On Thursday, May 28, the Supreme Court can decide whether to take the first step towards eliminating the cornerstone of that policy, a judicially invented legal doctrine called “qualified immunity.” Mr. Floyd’s killing by Minneapolis police provides a grim reminder that for some people, it is literally a matter of life and death. 

Enacted in 1871 and referred to as Section 1983 after its placement in the U.S. Code, America’s primary civil rights law provides that police and other state actors “shall be liable” to the person injured for “the deprivation of any rights.” On its face, Section 1983 creates a standard of strict liability for police and other public officials who violate people’s constitutional rights, including the right to be free from the unreasonable use of force. But in a tragic and legally baseless act of judicial policymaking, the Supreme Court radically altered that standard by holding that the right in question must be “clearly established.” And thus was born the doctrine of qualified immunity. 

In practice, what the “clearly established” gloss on Section 1983 requires is for would‐be civil rights plaintiffs to identify a relevant case in the same jurisdiction with nearly identical facts. Thus, if Mr. Floyd’s family wants to sue the officer who took his life, they will need to find an existing case from the Eighth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals holding that a police officer may not kneel on a unresisting suspect’s neck, ignoring his pleas for help, until he passes out. If no such case happens to be on the books, their case will be summarily tossed out of court. Such is the perversity of the Supreme Court’s qualified immunity doctrine.

Among qualified immunity’s most pernicious effects is the way it appears to provide a judicial imprimatur for indisputably wrongful conduct, like bringing the full weight of one’s body to bear on the neck of a prone and helpless human being. Indeed, the Supreme Court recently let stand an Eighth Circuit decision dismissing, on qualified immunity grounds, a Section 1983 case against a Nebraska officer who picked up a five‐foot‐tall, unarmed woman clad only in a bathing suit and drove her head‐first into the ground, knocking her unconscious and breaking her collarbone—not because it was lawful for him to do so, but rather because there happened to be no case on point with precisely those facts. 

This is madness. Fresh from the horrors of the Civil War, Congress was well aware of how indifferent and even hostile many government officials were to the rights of African Americans when it enacted Section 1983. There are ten qualified‐immunity cases pending before the Supreme Court, which may decide Thursday whether to accept any of those cases for review and ensure that judicial interpretation of Section 1983 remains faithful to congressional intent. The senseless brutalization of George Floyd, along with countless others, reminds us that this is not just a legal but a moral imperative. 

 

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1 hour ago, Irishman said:

I hope not. The other officers were complicit, and there are issues with the department that need to be cleaned up as you pointed out in the previous post. 

Guess who was the Hennepin County Attorney prior to becoming a Senator.........

https://www.westernjournal.com/bombshell-klobuchar-refused-prosecute-officer-center-george-floyd-case-might-prevented-death/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=conservativetribune&utm_content=2020-05-28&utm_campaign=manualpost&fbclid=IwAR1yrO2FRYkAjJJcZSK2r5rWIItbOJTFULGbpilvanUbR3xhKuncPeS0Bf0

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2 hours ago, swordfish said:

FTA: “When she was in that position she declined to prosecute many police officers who were accused of using excessive force, including the officer who has been blamed for Floyd’s death, The Guardian reported”

She appears to deserve a lot of criticism based on what is reported here. That said, they also did not need to be prosecuted in order to be fired. 

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As far as the rioting goes; here is one of the early entries for the category of "stirring the pot". He is seen walking along the front of this Autozone store breaking the windows; and then walks away from the scene. Looks a bit overdressed. His ex fiance' was shown this and identified him. He is a cop from St. Paul.........hmmmmmm So it appears Chauvin has more supporters. 

 

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Downtown Indianapolis protests turn tense: police use tear gas, shots fired at deputy

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/indianapolis/2020/05/29/indianapolis-police-shooting-two-dozen-protest-dreasjon-reed-death/5286076002/

 

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Protesters clashed with police in downtown Indianapolis Friday night in an hours-long demonstration that started peacefully but turned violent after the sun went down.

Officers with the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department used multiple volleys of tear gas and rubber bullets in an attempt to disperse crowds of people who lingered on city streets well past midnight.

As police stood in riot gear, groups of protesters moved through clouds of gas chanting “I can’t breathe!” and “Black lives matter.”

Shattered windows and glass doors were seen on many businesses, including Circle Centre Mall. 

An IMPD patrol car was vandalized. Fires were set in trash cans. A CVS store was torched and looted. Other stores, including a jewelry store and a cellphone store, were also looted. 

Graffiti on a broken window at Key Bank at Market Tower read, “I can’t use my bank account if I’m dead.”

Just before 12:30 a.m., a police spokesperson said shots had been fired at a Marion County Sheriff’s Department deputy at 1 American Square, near Illinois and Ohio Streets. The deputy was not injured and did not return fire, IMPD said. The shooter was not in custody.

The anger spilling into Indianapolis streets was mirrored in city after city across the country Friday as civil unrest grew four days after George Floyd died in Minneapolis.

The White House was put on lockdown. Minnesota’s governor enacted an 8 p.m. curfew in the Twin Cities after violent protests resulted in fires, looting and the abandonment of a police station overrun with protesters.

In Atlanta, crowds set fire to police cars, threw rocks and smashed glass at CNN’s headquarters. Seven people were shot overnight Thursday in Louisville during violent protests in that city.

Here in Indianapolis, the protest started peacefully, with just a couple of dozen people who gathered to decry Floyd’s death and also remember 21-year-old Dreasjon Reed.

Reed was fatally shot three weeks ago by a black IMPD officer following a police pursuit that was broadcast live on Reed’s Facebook.

The investigation into the shooting is still ongoing.

Those protesting Friday afternoon held signs that said “Justice for Dreasjon Reed,” “Black lives matter” and “End white supremacy.”

Some carried posters remembering Ahmaud Abery, a 25-year-old black man who was killed in February while jogging through a predominately white neighborhood in Georgia. No arrests were made in that case for months until a white father and son were charged with murder and aggravated assault in early May.

Others at the demonstration recalled Breonna Taylor, who in March was shot and killed in her apartment by Louisville police.

They wrote Reed, Floyd, Abery and Taylor’s names in chalk on the red bricks surrounding the Soldiers and Sailors Monument downtown.

Lamari Edwards, 20, told IndyStar that Floyd's and Arbery's deaths brought her to the Friday protest, but she said Reed’s death also hit home for her.

“It’s shocking to me that he was killed so effortlessly,” she said.

Event organizers worked hard to keep the protesters calm in the early hours of the demonstration. Those who threw water bottles at police officers midafternoon were asked to leave.

A local Black Lives Matter group broadcast repeatedly on Facebook Live and called on "white allies" to move to the front to form a human barrier between black protesters and the assembled police officers.

Many responded, linking arms and shouting "No justice! No peace!"

It’s unclear what caused the protests to turn violent after dark. By midnight, the demonstrations didn’t appear to be organized in any way. Police continued to try to break up the knots of people in the streets and on the sidewalks to little avail.

Further protests are scheduled later Saturday.

Violence is never the answer.

And with the government ruining the economy with the coronavirus shutdown odds are most of these protesters are now unemployed.  Just more fuel to add to the fire.

I have a child and in-law who are currently living near downtown Indianapolis.  They are temporarily leaving their apartment for safer environs.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Howe said:

Left wing agitators are promoting the violence and criminal behavior across America. Liberals ruin everything.

So, they are the same people that carry the Nazi flags in rallies to protect statues dedicated to military leaders who were enemies of the US? Or carry those same flags at rallies to open states up? Or the ones that carry a badge that blatantly murder people of color? Or the one that walked into a church heavily armed, killing the people inside it? Or the ones that blew up the government building in Oklahoma City? Was it a liberal who broke the windows at the Autozone in Minneapolis? Asking for a friend. 

 

Don't get me wrong; I have no doubt that people are agitating on purpose, and will travel to do so, a sad and tragic thing in this day and age. In fact, even here in Fort Wayne, some of the arrests were of people that are not from here. But the notion that violence is a one sided thing is just ridiculous. 

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The liberal mainstream media is also promoting the violence and criminal behavior across America regarding Minneapolis.

The obviously staged arrest of the minority CNN reporter was absolutely ridiculous.

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Really? Continuing to blame just one side? You have proof that arrest was staged? I may have missed some of those details. 

That said, the President declaring a "MAGA Night" in front of the White House does nothing but fan the flames. He claimed the Secret Service was in position and did a good job handling the protesters in case it did get out of hand. Leave it at that. They are the trained professionals. Everyone on this forum knows exactly what he is saying when he says it's MAGA night at the White House. We all know some crazy people who are dumb enough to show up there and escalate things quickly; putting the law enforcement people he praised at greater risk, as well as many individuals who are there to peacefully protest. I know I am critical of Trump often; but this is beyond ridiculous; even for him. 

But by all means, let's continue to push the narrative that it is just the left creating the violence we see.  

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34 minutes ago, Irishman said:

That said, the President declaring a "MAGA Night" in front of the White House does nothing but fan the flames. He claimed Everyone on this forum knows exactly what he is saying when he says it's MAGA night at the White House. 

How is declaring "MAGA night" in front of the White House considered "nothing but fan the flames"? Please inform forum members "exactly what he is saying".

38 minutes ago, Irishman said:

We all know some crazy people who are dumb enough to show up there and escalate things quickly; putting the law enforcement people he praised at greater risk, as well as many individuals who are there to peacefully protest. I know I am critical of Trump often; but this is beyond ridiculous; even for him. 

I do not know any "crazy people dumb enough to show up there and escalate things quickly".

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16 minutes ago, Howe said:

How is declaring "MAGA night" in front of the White House considered "nothing but fan the flames"? Please inform forum members "exactly what he is saying".

I do not know any "crazy people dumb enough to show up there and escalate things quickly".

Yeah...ok...I am sure you don’t. That is ok, others of us know enough people who would. 

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'But at the same time, it is as necessary for me to be as vigorous in condemning the conditions which cause persons to feel that they must engage in riotous activities as it is for me to condemn riots. I think America must see that riots do not develop out of thin air. Certain conditions continue to exist in our society which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots. 
And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality and humanity. "
Martin Luther King Jr.- Stanford University,  April 14, 1967
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3 hours ago, Howe said:

The liberal mainstream media is also promoting the violence and criminal behavior across America regarding Minneapolis.

The obviously staged arrest of the minority CNN reporter was absolutely ridiculous.

Lol it wasn't staged. 

 

President Obama being elected in 08 and 12 began to escalate the racial problems...cuz racists didn't want to see black people advance in life. 

Now we have a president who is a racist has absolutely torn our nation apart. 

This is what he wants. He wants America to be weaker so he can gain more power. Hitler basically did the same thing with Germany.. He eventually gained enough power, he started his real plans. 

 

Trump only cares about $, his power and himself. Its sad you are a sheep. 

You would have fell to Hitler in Germany in the 1920s and 1930s. 

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3 hours ago, Irishman said:

Really? Continuing to blame just one side? You have proof that arrest was staged? I may have missed some of those details. 

That said, the President declaring a "MAGA Night" in front of the White House does nothing but fan the flames. He claimed the Secret Service was in position and did a good job handling the protesters in case it did get out of hand. Leave it at that. They are the trained professionals. Everyone on this forum knows exactly what he is saying when he says it's MAGA night at the White House. We all know some crazy people who are dumb enough to show up there and escalate things quickly; putting the law enforcement people he praised at greater risk, as well as many individuals who are there to peacefully protest. I know I am critical of Trump often; but this is beyond ridiculous; even for him. 

But by all means, let's continue to push the narrative that it is just the left creating the violence we see.  

Trump knows what hes doing. A weaker, torn apart America is more power for him...

Hitler used growing angst against Jews to rise to popularity, he then took advantage of germany being torn by unrest and gained even more power and used that power to start his real plans. 

Its easy to see the similarities of Hitler and Trump. 

I mean his dad was a Nazi sympathizer who got arrested at a KKK meeting. 

 

Im sure Coach E, Trojandad and Howe aren't terrible humans but all 3 would have been head over heels for Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s. 

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We as a country have failed Black America. 

We must be better.. And Howe..  What if one of Howe's players had been killed the way George Floyd was. Would you sing a diff tune? 

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If you’re angry about protesters causing property damage, you’re absolutely going to blow your top when you find out that police steal billions of dollars in civil forfeiture from Americans every single year.

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