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5 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

He just finished his RS Freshman season, sits his RS SOPH year, plays 1 year for PU and posts numbers that match his lofty 5 star ranking out of HS and BOOM, NFL. 

I don't the TCU QB in Purdue plans after Sindelars decision to retire.

I can't see Purdue giving a scholarship to a QB who isn't immediately eligible AND giving one to a walk-on when they already are in a scholarship crunch. 

Had Sindelar returned I could see Brohm cutting bait with O'Connell, but not in this instance.

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8 minutes ago, DT said:

How could it be that the QB Whisperer Brohm does not have a single experienced signal caller on his roster heading in to Year 4 of his tenure?

Thats either really bad luck or really bad planning.

 

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Just now, Footballking16 said:

Well O'Connell and Plummer both started games last year so he'll have 2 experienced signal callers heading into year 4 (unless O'Connell doesn't get a scholarship and transfers) and yes losing 3 QB's to injury is a little bit of bad luck. I believe Brohm has taken a QB in every class.

Plummer, was Coach Brohm 1st truly recruited QB.   Recently retired Sindelar and Nick Sipe put the QB room a little younger.   SIpe was Hazel recruit that stayed on under Brohm, but retired mid year due to health.    

SO much more movement to come in the world of College Football,  its far from over on Roster structure

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6 minutes ago, DT said:

It just seems odd to me that you have absolutely no one on the depth chart who appears to be the first team QB for Air Brohm next season.  

Another huge roster misstep for Purdue.  

There's just no excuse for this kind of roster mismanagement.

 

Both O'Connell and Plummer started multiple games last year. If they started last year how can you say there is  absolutely no one of the depth chart that appears to be first team QB?

They have a highly rated redshirt freshman in Peferi and a 4* true freshman coming in as well. 

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2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Both O'Connell and Plummer started multiple games last year. If they started last year how can you say there is  absolutely no one of the depth chart that appears to be first team QB?

They have a highly rated redshirt freshman in Peferi and a 4* true freshman coming in as well. 

Noted

I misread your previous post.  So Plummer is the heir apparent ?  Is OConnell a walkon?

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12 minutes ago, DT said:

It just seems odd to me that you have absolutely no one on the depth chart who appears to be the first team QB for Air Brohm next season.  

Another huge roster misstep for Purdue.  

There's just no excuse for this kind of roster mismanagement.

 

Why do you even care?  I trust Brohm implicitly.

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5 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Both O'Connell and Plummer started multiple games last year. If they started last year how can you say there absolutely no one of the depth chart that appears to be first team QB?

They have a highly rated redshirt freshman in Peferi and a 4* true freshman coming in as well. 

Plummer can extend with his Feet, however in game reps this past year, he struggled with getting the ball out on time consistently and reading B10 defenses, however, some of that was expected being a RS FROSH in the b10. 

  Passing Rushing
Rk Date School   Opponent   Cmp Att Pct Yds TD Int Rate Att Yds Avg TD
  7 Games         145 242 59.9 1605 11 8 124.0 62 56 0.9 0
1 2019-09-14 Purdue   Texas Christian L 13 29 44.8 181 1 2 94.8 7 -4 -0.6 0
2 2019-09-28 Purdue   Minnesota L 23 41 56.1 245 2 2 112.6 8 29 3.6 0
3 2019-10-05 Purdue @ Penn State L 13 27 48.1 119 1 0 97.4 14 -65 -4.6 0
4 2019-10-12 Purdue   Maryland W 33 41 80.5 420 3 0 190.7 5 13 2.6 0
5 2019-10-19 Purdue @ Iowa L 30 50 60.0 327 2 1 124.1 7 4 0.6 0
6 2019-10-26 Purdue   Illinois L 8 20 40.0 71 0 1 59.8 9 18 2.0 0
7 2019-11-02 Purdue   Nebraska W 25 34 73.5 242 2 2 141.0 12 61 5.1 0

O'Connell gets the ball out on time with some serious zip, however, he lacks some movement with his feet that Plummer has an advantage on.   

 

  Passing Rushing
Rk Date School   Opponent   Cmp Att Pct Yds TD Int Rate Att Yds Avg TD
  6 Games    
1 2019-10-05 Purdue @ Penn State L 1 1 100.0 4 0 0 133.6 0 0   0
2 2019-10-26 Purdue   Illinois L 7 13 53.8 65 1 0 121.2 1 2 2.0 0
3 2019-11-02 Purdue   Nebraska W 6 7 85.7 62 0 0 160.1 1 1 1.0 0
4 2019-11-09 Purdue @ Northwestern W 34 50 68.0 271 2 2 118.7 5 4 0.8 0
5 2019-11-23 Purdue @ Wisconsin L 26 43 60.5 289 2 1 127.6 5 -10 -2.0 0
6 2019-11-30 Purdue   Indiana L 28 49 57.1 408 3 1 143.2 3 -6 -2.0 0
18 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

https://247sports.com/Article/Penn-State-receiver-Justin-Shorter-enters-NCAA-transfer-portal-139260179/

What has been asked around these parts:  What does Purdue do after Moore and Bell leave:   Well this guy maybe someone who can transfer, sit a year and play for 2?

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/justin-shorter-14432#school-interests

He just finished his RS Freshman season, sits his RS SOPH year, plays 1 year for PU and posts numbers that match his lofty 5 star ranking out of HS and BOOM, NFL. 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, DT said:

Noted

I misread your previous post.  So Plummer is the heir apparent ?  Is OConnell a walkon?

I'm guessing Plummer is the more "talented" of the two based on his recruiting ranking but O'Connell has been there the longest, and while he's technically a walk-on he looked anything but in the few times I saw him. Throws a very good ball. Decision making wasn't great but again I'm guessing that has a lot to do with starting the year as a 4th string QB. Give him reps at the 1 for a full spring and he could end up being pretty good. Plummer likely won't be healthy for spring ball.

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9 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Plummer can extend with his Feet, however in game reps this past year, he struggled with getting the ball out on time consistently and reading B10 defenses, however, some of that was expected being a RS FROSH in the b10. 

  Passing Rushing
Rk Date School   Opponent   Cmp Att Pct Yds TD Int Rate Att Yds Avg TD
  7 Games         145 242 59.9 1605 11 8 124.0 62 56 0.9 0
1 2019-09-14 Purdue   Texas Christian L 13 29 44.8 181 1 2 94.8 7 -4 -0.6 0
2 2019-09-28 Purdue   Minnesota L 23 41 56.1 245 2 2 112.6 8 29 3.6 0
3 2019-10-05 Purdue @ Penn State L 13 27 48.1 119 1 0 97.4 14 -65 -4.6 0
4 2019-10-12 Purdue   Maryland W 33 41 80.5 420 3 0 190.7 5 13 2.6 0
5 2019-10-19 Purdue @ Iowa L 30 50 60.0 327 2 1 124.1 7 4 0.6 0
6 2019-10-26 Purdue   Illinois L 8 20 40.0 71 0 1 59.8 9 18 2.0 0
7 2019-11-02 Purdue   Nebraska W 25 34 73.5 242 2 2 141.0 12 61 5.1 0

O'Connell gets the ball out on time with some serious zip, however, he lacks some movement with his feet that Plummer has an advantage on.   

 

  Passing Rushing
Rk Date School   Opponent   Cmp Att Pct Yds TD Int Rate Att Yds Avg TD
  6 Games    
1 2019-10-05 Purdue @ Penn State L 1 1 100.0 4 0 0 133.6 0 0   0
2 2019-10-26 Purdue   Illinois L 7 13 53.8 65 1 0 121.2 1 2 2.0 0
3 2019-11-02 Purdue   Nebraska W 6 7 85.7 62 0 0 160.1 1 1 1.0 0
4 2019-11-09 Purdue @ Northwestern W 34 50 68.0 271 2 2 118.7 5 4 0.8 0
5 2019-11-23 Purdue @ Wisconsin L 26 43 60.5 289 2 1 127.6 5 -10 -2.0 0
6 2019-11-30 Purdue   Indiana L 28 49 57.1 408 3 1 143.2 3 -6 -2.0 0

 

 

Is the transfer in that Tweet Shorter? Has he committed to Purdue or seriously considering them? Unless he receives a waiver, doubt he ever gets the chance to play with Rondale as I think Rondale is gone after this year.

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2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Is the transfer in that Tweet Shorter? Has he committed to Purdue or seriously considering them? Unless he receives a waiver, doubt he ever gets the chance to play with Rondale as I think Rondale is gone after this year.

Where is Purdue if Bell, Karlaftis and Moore all go pro after next season?

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If I were picking today, and based on the roster prognosis outlined in this thread, I would take PU 7th in the west for the 2020 season.

Wisconsin

Iowa

Minnesota

Nebraska

Illinois

Northwestern 

Purdue

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38 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Is the transfer in that Tweet Shorter? Has he committed to Purdue or seriously considering them? Unless he receives a waiver, doubt he ever gets the chance to play with Rondale as I think Rondale is gone after this year.

Correct, I agree that this will be Rondale's last year at PU

So in theory, SHORTER, transfers, sits out a year and as a RS JR, he is eligible to be playing for Purdue when Bell is a true JR with Milton Wright and RS SR Amad Anderson to go along with RS SOPH TJ SHEFFIELD and perhaps Mershawn Rice who would be RS SOPH as well.   Along with whoever else they bring in.  

That is of course if Shorter can get one of the exclusive NCAA Waivers for immediate eligibility 

34 minutes ago, DT said:

Where is Purdue if Bell, Karlaftis and Moore all go pro after next season?

Yea what he said below

33 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Moore is the only player draft eligible.

 

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32 minutes ago, DT said:

If I were picking today, and based on the roster prognosis outlined in this thread, I would take PU 7th in the west for the 2020 season.

Wisconsin

Iowa

Minnesota

Nebraska

Illinois

Northwestern 

Purdue

Could certainly see it happening, but Illinois doesn't have near the talent that Purdue has and neither does Northwestern. Been underwhelmed with Frost.

Purdue is certainly young and I think that may be there downfall for next year, especially if they can't get healthy, but their roster isn't the worst in the West.

4 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

So in theory, SHORTER, transfers, sits out a year and as a RS JR, he is eligible to be playing for Purdue when Bell is a true JR with Milton Wright and RS SR Amad Anderson to go along with RS SOPH TJ SHEFFIELD and perhaps Mershawn Rice who would be RS SOPH as well.   Along with whoever else they bring in.  

That is of course if Shorter can get one of the exclusive NCAA Waivers for immediate eligibility 

Is Shorter committed to Purdue or even a Purdue lean? Am I missing something other than he would be a really good pick up for wherever he lands?

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4 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Could certainly see it happening, but Illinois doesn't have near the talent that Purdue has and neither does Northwestern. Been underwhelmed with Frost.

Purdue is certainly young and I think that may be there downfall for next year, especially if they can't get healthy, but their roster isn't the worst in the West.

Is Shorter committed to Purdue or even a Purdue lean? Am I missing something other than he would be a really good pick up for wherever he lands?

Both IL and NW have more talent than PU according to the composite rankings.  

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/?Conference=Big-Ten

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4 minutes ago, DT said:

Both IL and NW have more talent than PU according to the composite rankings.  

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/?Conference=Big-Ten

That was for this year. Purdue's recruiting classes from 15, 16. and 17 were atrocious.

Purdue had better and more highly ranked recruiting classes in 2018, 2019, and this incoming 2020 class than both Illinois and Northwestern.

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2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

That was for this year. Purdue's recruiting classes from 15, 16. and 17 were atrocious.

Purdue had better and more highly ranked recruiting classes in 2018, 2019, and this incoming 2020 class than both Illinois and Northwestern.

We will have to look at the 2020 composite rankings when they are available.  You must be anticipating big changes

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4 minutes ago, DT said:

We will have to look at the 2020 composite rankings when they are available.  You must be anticipating big changes

I know for sure Illinois' composite is skewed because they added a bunch of grad transfers who will no longer be on next years team.

Northwestern's lone 5* was QB Hunter Johnson who was benched halfway through the year and looks to be in completely over his head. 

Illinois and Northwestern lose a ton to graduation while Purdue brings back just about all of it's talent who were either true freshman or sophomores. On paper Purdue will have a more talented roster than either Ill or NW if we're strictly looking at HS recruiting rankings, that's a given. But it's still young talent. Not going to win many places when your most talented players are freshman and sophomores.

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19 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

 

Is Shorter committed to Purdue or even a Purdue lean? Am I missing something other than he would be a really good pick up for wherever he lands?

That is the juicy internet RUMOR right now that he is considering Purdue.  

 

5 minutes ago, DT said:

We will have to look at the 2020 composite rankings when they are available.  You must be anticipating big changes

You will get a good look at the initial 2020 class after Wednesday, but yes full composite won't be until after February signing date.   

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2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

I know for sure Illinois' composite is skewed because they added a bunch of grad transfers who will no longer be on next years team.

Northwestern's lone 5* was QB Hunter Johnson who was benched halfway through the year and looks to be in completely over his head. 

Illinois and Northwestern lose a ton to graduation while Purdue brings back just about all of it's talent who were either true freshman or sophomores. On paper Purdue will have a more talented roster than either Ill or NW if we're strictly looking at HS recruiting rankings, that's a given. But it's still young talent. Not going to win many places when your most talented players are freshman and sophomores.

There is not much gap between the Bottom 5  (RU/IU/UI/PU/NW) in terms of composite roster rank.  They are all battling for the title of Tallest Midget.  

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