CoachVeatch Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Another shade of ridiculousness. https://www.southbendtribune.com/sports/high_school/south-bend-schools-to-eliminate-athletic-director-positions/article_05d9a1b4-108d-538a-bc73-64dd38ec73a9.html 1 Quote
SBFootball1 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 When Tom Noie broke this news last night, I was shocked. During a time when, in many cases, the students, not the parents, are choosing which high school to go to,a corporation that cant afford to lose more students and needs ways to attract students has sent a message that athletics are an afterthought. Just from a marketing standpoint, this move makes no sense. Are there any other situations like this in the state, or do most schools have a full-time athletic director? It seems that most of the schools in our area have an AD and possibly an assistant or a secretary as well. Are any AD's also assistant principals/deans/other titles in other cases? I ask because I genuinely don't know. Quote
Muda69 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, CoachVeatch said: Another shade of ridiculousness. https://www.southbendtribune.com/sports/high_school/south-bend-schools-to-eliminate-athletic-director-positions/article_05d9a1b4-108d-538a-bc73-64dd38ec73a9.html Interesting decision. But it comes down to the question: what is the core mission of a government school corporation? 1 1 Quote
SoIndRef Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, SBFootball1 said: When Tom Noie broke this news last night, I was shocked. During a time when, in many cases, the students, not the parents, are choosing which high school to go to,a corporation that cant afford to lose more students and needs ways to attract students has sent a message that athletics are an afterthought. Just from a marketing standpoint, this move makes no sense. Are there any other situations like this in the state, or do most schools have a full-time athletic director? It seems that most of the schools in our area have an AD and possibly an assistant or a secretary as well. Are any AD's also assistant principals/deans/other titles in other cases? I ask because I genuinely don't know. I applied for a Dean of Students/Athletic Director position at North Newton last week. So they are not the only ones. 1 Quote
Guest Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, SBFootball1 said: When Tom Noie broke this news last night, I was shocked. During a time when, in many cases, the students, not the parents, are choosing which high school to go to,a corporation that cant afford to lose more students and needs ways to attract students has sent a message that athletics are an afterthought. Just from a marketing standpoint, this move makes no sense. Are there any other situations like this in the state, or do most schools have a full-time athletic director? It seems that most of the schools in our area have an AD and possibly an assistant or a secretary as well. Are any AD's also assistant principals/deans/other titles in other cases? I ask because I genuinely don't know. North Newton is advertising their AD/Dean of Students Position...... https://www.nn.k12.in.us/Page/364 1 hour ago, Muda69 said: Interesting decision. But it comes down to the question: what is the core mission of a government school corporation? FIFY: "what is the core mission of any school corporation?" Quote
MarshallCounty Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Smaller schools have Dean of Students/AD positions. 1 Quote
SoIndRef Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, MarshallCounty said: Smaller schools have Dean of Students/AD positions. Vincennes Rivet did/does. Not sure if it is the same now. My friend was the AD/Dean for a couple years 1 Quote
SBFootball1 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Thanks for the info. It does make sense, especially in a smaller corporation....hopefully it makes sense here! Quote
MarshallCounty Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 I feel that in larger school settings, this is a tough task to accomplish. Quote
Indian72 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 The new superintendent hiring was sketchy and this is just another issue for the SB schools How much will you actually be savings? How do you handle daily student issues and athletics? Seems like a big issue to me and makes no sense Quote
WolvesOnTheProwl Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, Indian72 said: The new superintendent hiring was sketchy and this is just another issue for the SB schools How much will you actually be savings? How do you handle daily student issues and athletics? Seems like a big issue to me and makes no sense Exactly what I was thinking. I would assume an AD and a Dean would make comparable salaries plus benefits. So they still have to pay someone to fill that role, and what are the chances they'll have more academics on their plates instead of athletics. Makes me wonder if other schools will be reluctant to schedule games vs SB schools.... Quote
johnathanspencer Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Eliminate these AD positions but then will create 5 new Asst. Superintendent positions at $100K to oversee these new Dean/AD positions. Usually how public schools work. 2 3 Quote
Indian72 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Until you know what their jobs are not sure how you can do both. Deans are in the office dealing with students, academics, issues all day long They better have good and competent secretaries For larger schools this make no sense at all - the kids will suffer Hell, St Joe and Marian both have Assistant AD's and SB schools did not 1 1 Quote
Indian72 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 Interesting article from "experts" about this today in the paper. If you are a SB parents then you need to watch future school board elections Quote
Guest Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, Indian72 said: Interesting article from "experts" about this today in the paper. If you are a SB parents then you need to watch future school board elections Link? Quote
Indian72 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/education/eliminating-athletic-directors-just-the-start-of-changes-in-south/article_808e2d7d-93d9-58bd-9490-0c8072130da7.html this is becoming a joke. You should see the jobs for the new positions Executive Directors of .............. They are already posted on the SBCSC sight but nothing on the Deans of Students and Athletics 1 Quote
johnathanspencer Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 Sorry but I called it first.......... 1 Quote
SBFootball1 Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, johnathanspencer said: Sorry but I called it first.......... The joke is on you...they actually listed 6 "chief" or "executive" titled positions at the admin building. So your 5 was way off! 😉 1 Quote
johnathanspencer Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 Oh, hahahaha. Math was never my strong point. Quote
Guest Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 27 minutes ago, johnathanspencer said: Oh, hahahaha. Math was never my strong point. Apparetly it isn't SBCSC's either. 😂 Quote
SenatorFan Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 From a distance, it looks like "the new broom sweeps clean". Or to put it another way, "It doesn't have to make sense. I was hired to bring about change, so change we will have." For the sake of the SB parents and students hope it works! Quote
WolvesOnTheProwl Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 https://www.southbendtribune.com/sports/high_school/south-bend-schools-committed-to-sports-despite-changes-to-athletic/article_c25eec2c-61e5-50fe-8b0d-a14f5f73d18b.html Quote
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