Guest DT Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Will Illinois ever get it turned around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southend Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Not with hires like the last one. That should have gotten the AD canned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southend Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 By the way , I don’t want them to get it turned around 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiting89 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 17 hours ago, DT said: Will Illinois ever get it turned around? Probably not it’s just not meant to be for anyone other than Ohio State in the big ten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southend Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 HOOSIERS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 If the Hoosiers can “get it turned around,” anyone can. Question is, what does it mean to “get it turned around?” Does it mean getting to the championship game? Does it mean having a winning record in conference? You can’t draw a road map without having a destination in mind. it would take a massive influx of resources to get UI to the point where it was challenging for B1G supremacy. But it would take comparatively little to make them respectable. I really believe it starts with the coach. There are Tom Allens out there. The trick is finding them. If I was the President at UI, and was asked by my Trustees and boosters to get the football program respectable, I’d call up my AD and tell him when he hires a new football coach it better be someone good, or he’s next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southend Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Yes in Indiana’s situation, “turning around “means just what they did this year. They have beaten the teams they were supposed to ,and won some close games that have always eluded them for several years past. The crowd isn’t calling for championships here. Just respectability. So they are on the tight track. Keeping it up will determine whether they win championships or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I wonder if they'll give Lance Leipold a look. He's from Wisconsin, won big there at Wisconsin-Whitewater, and has turned Buffalo into a solid program. The guy has proven he can win at 2 different levels. Someone will eventually take a chance on him. Illinois is an interesting job. The state is ripe with talent, but the Illini have never owned it. It's tough when the Chicago area views Champaign as rural, supposedly you can smell cows from their stadium that sits on edge of Champaign, and the Chicago media also treats Northwestern/Notre Dame as the local teams. Looking at the class of 2021 the Top 25 players in Illinois are going to: Iowa Minnesota Northwestern Missouri Minnesota Texas Christian lean (Decommitted from Purdue. Brohm can't lose QB recruits!!) Louisville Missouri West Virginia Wisconsin UCLA Michigan Minnesota Syracuse Iowa Notre Dame Notre Dame Rutgers Minnesota Iowa Louisville Indiana Toledo Minnesota Northwestern Bottom line: You can't win at Illinois if you can't even recruit your own state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boilernation Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Bobref said: If the Hoosiers can “get it turned around,” anyone can. Question is, what does it mean to “get it turned around?” Does it mean getting to the championship game? Does it mean having a winning record in conference? You can’t draw a road map without having a destination in mind. it would take a massive influx of resources to get UI to the point where it was challenging for B1G supremacy. But it would take comparatively little to make them respectable. I really believe it starts with the coach. There are Tom Allens out there. The trick is finding them. If I was the President at UI, and was asked by my Trustees and boosters to get the football program respectable, I’d call up my AD and tell him when he hires a new football coach it better be someone good, or he’s next. I would say as a Purdue fan I would be happy with 7-9 wins a year with a good Bowl game. 10 wins and above is just gravy. College football is a beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southend Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Boilernation said: I would say as a Purdue fan I would be happy with 7-9 wins a year with a good Bowl game. 10 wins and above is just gravy. College football is a beast. Not much different normally from any program, other than the elites in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobref Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 The new coach of the Illini is the former Wisconsin coach, Brett Bielema. This is a very interesting hire. He's a B1G guy, originally from Illinois, played at Iowa, coached at Wisconsin. I think this is a terrific hire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, Bobref said: The new coach of the Illini is the former Wisconsin coach, Brett Bielema. This is a very interesting hire. He's a B1G guy, originally from Illinois, played at Iowa, coached at Wisconsin. I think this is a terrific hire. Well.....that was fast. 😂 I too think this hire is terrific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Bobref said: The new coach of the Illini is the former Wisconsin coach, Brett Bielema. This is a very interesting hire. He's a B1G guy, originally from Illinois, played at Iowa, coached at Wisconsin. I think this is a terrific hire. Love it Illini will look just like Wisconsin in no time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptation Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 hours ago, DT said: Love it Illini will look just like Wisconsin in no time I’m going to take the opposing view. Bret is just a retread. His Big Ten roots do speak for themselves but I think Illinois should have gone with a young up and comer. I think they have been suckered into thinking that they can recreate something of the magic their next door neighbors, Indiana, did in 2020. I think the Hoosiers’ success in 2020 is an anomaly. Though it seems to an easier climb to the top in the Big Ten West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DT Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 4 hours ago, temptation said: I’m going to take the opposing view. Bret is just a retread. His Big Ten roots do speak for themselves but I think Illinois should have gone with a young up and comer. I think they have been suckered into thinking that they can recreate something of the magic their next door neighbors, Indiana, did in 2020. I think the Hoosiers’ success in 2020 is an anomaly. Though it seems to an easier climb to the top in the Big Ten West. Bielema only knows one style of football. Big bruising smash your face type football. That is the easiest type of team to build thru recruiting. He will steal some Wisconsin kids and recruit Illinois very strong and Illinois will finally have an identity as a powerful bruising type of football team. I love it. Can't wait to see it develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southend Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 7 hours ago, temptation said: I’m going to take the opposing view. Bret is just a retread. His Big Ten roots do speak for themselves but I think Illinois should have gone with a young up and comer. I think they have been suckered into thinking that they can recreate something of the magic their next door neighbors, Indiana, did in 2020. I think the Hoosiers’ success in 2020 is an anomaly. Though it seems to an easier climb to the top in the Big Ten West. Pixxy dust did it for Indiana! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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