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Nah, that has been tried before and it doesn't work. Trust me. The green tie however is magic.

Clinton Central Bulldogs. As long as the new head coach wears a green tie on the sideline.

Which is why real coaches have to unteach this behavior and put a stop to the selfish "Hey, look at me, look what I did" actions of the individual so it doesn't cost the TEAM unsportsmanlike penalties. WE B4 ME!

I know there are quite a few PMS fans on here, but one thing I despise that they promote is the “talk your shit” mentality when playing.

Thanks. There were posts involving both South and SC and I guess I got it that they referring to South on the transfer issue. I know there has been a lot of back and forth down along the river over transfers over the years, to include back and forth over the river.

You wonder why these kids act the way they do and then you see the actions of their "role models" and all of your questions are immediately answered. Adults modeling this behavior instead of putting a stop to it.

I was there both days working...my 2 cents. Pylon hired an outside security group who did an awesome job of checking wrist bands. Wrong wristband color? not allowed on field level. Parents had great excuses to try and get by them...my kid needs his drink, my kid needs his bag. They did not let anybody without the proper colored band through. Westfield PD was also very present. 4 to 5 officers in shifts roaming the fields and concourse areas. Now parents could yell at the refs from above, but no parents were downstairs that I could see. There was an "in your face" attitude with most receptions especially touchdowns. The DB's would also get mouthy on a good pass break up. Kids being kids emulating the pros and occasionally a flag was thrown for taunting, but I did not necessarily see any repercussions. Here was a big problem. Team A 15U is playing Team B 15U. Team A 13U, 14U, 16U etc were on the sidelines watching and cheering for their club team. So, on a great catch instead of the receiver taunting the DB on a singular basis, 30 kids would run down and taunt the DB and vice versa. Lots and Lots of chippy talking. Words I don't use. on and on and on every game. These are some seriously talented kids and clubs. A Pittsburgh team (421 Black, think they were 16's, evidently had 6-7 guys verbally committed) Other clubs the same. Several teams with 14 year olds with offers. The brawl happened between 2 clubs that have been "feudin" and continue to feud as they play in these tournaments. It was brewing and brewing on Saturday and Sunday and finally came to a head. The Westfield PD was on it early. It started and the officers were already in EC1 area ready for something. They sensed it. The brawl starts and soon after, the North doors open and 10-12 more officers are in there. It did not last very long. The problem again....too many players from clubs on the field watching their club play. So, a fight starts here, then there, then over there. Kids joining in the adult fight. 3-4 people kicking one guy. You can see jerseys with numbers on them. It was not just the adults. Kids were defending their coaches and jumping in. Several teams just ran to the corners to get out of the mess. Pretty smart. Can't say enough about Westfield PD and the Grand Park Event Center staff. One of the Pylon people had already left, and another said she had to leave too with about 90 minutes before it was done. GP ops said if you leave, we're closing it down. She stayed. There were no other issues with fighting. On a side note...Brownsburg had a 12-U group. On defense, they were running 2-3 different kinds of defensive zone reads and 2-3 different man to man defenses. Called from the side lines with hand signals. Kids were all talking pre-snap and during the play, passing receivers off to safeties. Well-coached. Smart kids. The only reason I got to watch this intently was it was the last game. The team they were playing was just as good. That is what I want to remember about that Sunday. My 2 cents

Sounds familiar

Zero repercussions for said behavior either in those travel call settings.

He was referring to Silver Creek, not Bloomington South.

Seymour has a large group of Hispanic immigrants. That’s what pushes them into 5A, and no I don’t see a coaching change, changing that. However political factors, both local and nationally have started changing that. At its peak, Seymour was 35%-40% Hispanics. That has been dropping the last two years. Historically Seymour has had success, the administration seems intent on a successful football program, I know the community is hungry for a successful football program, I see no reason why a coach couldn’t be successful at Seymour. Post Jeff Richey, Seymour had a couple of stepping stone coaches, not sure what happened with Moore, and it kind of becomes a stigma, but all of those coaches enjoyed some success or were about to before bailed for greener pastures. I get it, oh look Seymour’s open again. With all that being said, I’ll also state I am a firm believer that the goal of a HS FB isn’t necessarily wins v losses, a much better measure is what kind of young men is your program producing. Thats the important part for me, and of course as Lou Holtz said he was told when he showed up to South Bend, we just want to be competitive. I think Coach Papenhaus fits the bill at Seymour.

7 on 7 = AAU Basketball = Travel Baseball The behavior of the coaches / parents / athletes is often looked past because the coaches want to keep the talented ones on their team. In this day of "I'll just play for another team when the going gets tough", "coaches" look the other way and ignore red flags with a kids behavior because their talent helps them win games. I put the word coaches in quotations because if you are only trying to win games and not trying to teach your young athletes to be responsible young adults, you are not a good coach, and I don't care what your win/loss record is. Kids need discipline and structure now more that ever, and if you're teaching them that they can treat people poorly because they run a fast 40 yard dash, you are the problem. Disclaimer: This does not apply to all coaches, I know there are a lot of coaches teaching the right things and using the vehicle of sport to teach important life lessons. That is one of your most important jobs as a coach. When you teach people the right way of doing things, winning is a byproduct. We owe it to then to do better.

Throw the Hot Dogs in there with them in 4A. As long as they have a weiner dog on the sidelines every game named Frank or Oscar. The year of the cinderella stories.

I’ll post it when it’s official. STATE LAW!

Excellent choice. Kevin will do great things.

I remember when a young Mr. Able was on the coaching staff at Maconaquah in the 1980's.