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Ben Davis @ Zionsville
vicvinegar replied to BDGiant93's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
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No need to get upset. I wasn't discrediting anyone. In my opinion, Carmel is the best team left. Therefore, just because they beat a couple HCC teams that they should have, does not mean you get to ignore everything that has happened up to this point and claim that this proves how the MIC is so much more superior than the HCC. So if LN and LC would have been eliminated by HCC schools, would HCC now be the better conference? 6-5... Thanks! 😉
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I don't know how a person could stand in front of those players and tell them they are no longer allowed to play football because they aren't good enough. That them not playing will make high school football in Indiana more competitive. Then tell the other sports programs that their funding will be cut because the football program is being shutdown. Then tell the cheerleaders, band members and fans (which I was actually surprised that there were so many) to find something else to do on Friday nights. Just a few more schools to tell this to and then maybe we can get down to that magic number to make Indiana high school football competitive!
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I agree. A team that beats an opponent that they lost 3-7 to the first time, isn't much of an upset. #2 losing at #4 isn't much of an upset either.
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what's going on here?
vicvinegar replied to Titandad71's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I haven't watched a game, but if I'm not mistaken, HH runs a flexbone offense (perhaps a double wing). Those type of offenses are never going to throw the ball much. As you pointed out, as we get deeper into the playoffs and the weather gets worse, it only helps them. -
You beat me to it! lol I was about to say that some one not have these two teams in the playoffs. Both are amazing playoff runs.
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Here's the thing, this isn't the NFL. In high school sports, the worst team doesn't get the top draft pick the following year. The team that wins state is usually going to continue to have that same pipeline of players coming up, the same football culture, and likely the same head coach. With the exception of perhaps the HC, the same can be said about the 0'fers. Does that mean teams can't change? Of course not! You can shut down as many football programs as you would like, as long as we keep score, there will always be winners, and there will always be losers. It doesn't matter how even you try to make it.
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I still question the support Admin gives the program (I don't truly know... maybe they are very supportive). However, I wonder if it has become such of a unattractive job that decent coaches don't want to touch it. I'm sure there has been some decent coaches over 25 years, but just go to Hudl and watch the Indianapolis Lighthouse game. They have two high safeties that are usually 17-20 yards deep. They are not gap sound. The first steps of the linebackers are backwards. I do not like to bash coaches, but that is just poor coaching. Indianapolis Lighthouse (whoever that is) is playing pitch and catch. I did like Coach Mattingly. I wished he would have stuck around, but maybe after being there a year he figured he could not win for one reason or another. Maybe he just found a better opportunity. I do agree though... I applaud the young men for dressing up every Friday night. I just hope that either the current Admin or new Admin will supply the right coach with what they need to make the program competitive.
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I've always been interested in Pike Central. I get that the socioeconomics might be an obstacle, but it's hard for me to accept that causes 25+ straight years of losing. There are certainly other areas of the state that struggle socioeconomically, that haven't struggled as much as PC has. I'm not sure if administration is supportive. What type of funding is supplied to the football program. Surely there has been a good coach or two there in 25 years, but I'm sure it's also difficult to build a staff in a rural small town if admin isn't willing to get assistants in the building. I don't think PC needs to get out of the PAC. Especially being in the smaller division. With the exception of Southridge, the other teams may have decent years here and there, but it's not like any of the other schools in the smaller division are true powerhouses. I would really like to see a coach and Admin get in there that could get that program competitive.
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I'm just glad not everyone shares your opinion. An opinion that if a program finishes with 9 wins, 7 wins, 7 wins, 1 win, and likely zero wins over the past five years, then you shut down their program. I think you do a great job of playing devil's advocate on the forum, but you're really reaching here.
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Blind Draw - An Absolute Tragedy
vicvinegar replied to BTF's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
You'll have to forgive me, I don't remember saying that.
