Purdue Pete

“The Allen County Athletic Conference is a solid league from top to bottom”

😂😂😂😂😂

Today the ACAC is probably one of the weakest conferences in the entire state.  Boasting powerhouse programs such as Jay Co, Woodlan, Heritage and Southern Wells.  Used to be solid top to bottom.  This days are long gone.

On 4/19/2021 at 10:58 PM, BigBH said:

come on Purdue guy....it's Ohio State....an NFL draft producing machine.....hell go to BAMA.....funny some purdue honk getting pissed a kid doesn't want to spend his time in West Laffy

I hear u.  Cant argue.... But every now and then... 2018 rolls around and we beat ur ass

On 4/30/2021 at 11:29 PM, Justasportsfan said:

Mid major speedster from a team that never made it outta sectionals goes in the 2nd rd..the dream lives on..

How do u have a second round pick in the NFL draft and not make it out of sectional?  

Who is the fav now that Chatard is gone?

Great recruiting on the part of OSU.  Understand that all these high caliber recruits have been told how great they are since peewee.  Need to continue to stroke their egos until they sign.

On 3/14/2021 at 9:40 PM, panther10 said:

Marion wanted out not sure why.... I know they lost a lot of talent so maybe thats why. We tried to get better competition but would have to travel 2hrs to get a game all teams around are still under contract. 

Jay co dropped norwell this year so now I heard they head down to indi for week1. Norwell v Eastbrook would’ve been a good week 1 game.  Eastbrook pounded the knights for a few years as they were rebuilding.  They back now.... would’ve been a good one.

Macanaquah had a down year this year after bringing almost everyone back.  Expected them to be in the mix for the conference and sectional title... was not to be.

Everyone gets in.  No seeding.  6 classes based on enrollment.

very talented senior class moves on as well.

37 minutes ago, AG said:

Eh, I receive approximately five e-mails every week from Western about new cases in the school corporation. 

Without a doubt school age kids get it.  Then they COME to school.  They get tested couple days later.  Positive.  Emails go out.  3 months ago anyone that had sat within 6ft of them would be quarantined for 14 days.  Today no one is quarantined from the school.  This is because due to masks, cleaning, etc the kids are not spreading it to each other at school.  Hence no reason to quarantine students.  “Kids aren’t GETTING it at school.”

5 hours ago, crimsonace1 said:

One thing, too, is basketball drives the bus at a lot of rural one-county schools. Connersville may not have much of a football tradition, but has traditionally had a very good basketball program that punches above its weight. Blackford is going through the Luke Brown experience. Jay County has long had a solid basketball program. Benton Central (which has the largest school district in the state geographically) was a girls hoops powerhouse when Jan Conner was there and remains a pretty solid program. Same with Huntington North under Fred Fields. Jennings County, Bedford North Lawrence (which encompasses about 80% of Lawrence County's population), et al - good basketball traditions. 

Franklin County (which actually doesn't encompass the entire county - a few townships go to Batesville) had a tremendous football program when Alex Smith was there and in the years after, but they've dealt with a population decline as have a lot of rural counties. 

Basketball is a *big* part of the culture in a lot of rural communities and that seems to be the focus of the youth/community development programs. In the communities mentioned above - Connersville, BNL, Benton Central, Blackford all have fairly large gyms. The community support is very good at a lot of those schools for *basketball*. It's just hard to drum it up for football for whatever reason. 

Also bball only takes 5 or 6 solid players vs 20.

1 hour ago, Obi-Wan said:

Nope, Nope, Nope. I am so glad that we played this year. If they didn't want to deal with issues like this then they should have taken the chance and allowed their student athletes to play.

They’ve now reduced the magical number to 3ft in our school.  Contact tracing in our school, in our county and in our surrounding counties has stopped. Based on the last 6 months, kids aren’t getting it at school.  Thank God We are Hoosiers!!!

on another note, I did hear of a local player who has moved to Illinois after our season for round 2 of his senior year of Hs football 😂

20 hours ago, BTF said:

I'm more intrigued by what would happen if they consolidated now. 

Obviously conjecture but if they went north they would’ve been in the 4A Leo / EN sectional.  South to Delta / Marion.  Could’ve been close imo.  Someone else posted that a combined Adams county would be 5A.  Believe Dwenger sectional would’ve been ugly... not sure who would’ve been south.

1 hour ago, DanteEstonia said:

Did they have football?

I know Berne did.  

Just now, DanteEstonia said:

What schools came before Adams Central and South Adams?

Township schools.  Berne Bears... Kirkland kangaroos (no joke), etc 

6 hours ago, BTF said:

I think they would do more than "very well" in the North. There is some good football being played in Adams County. Adams Central and South Adams are a good model for other small rural programs to follow. If you combined all three programs, I think they would be a dangerous team against any team at any level. 

Back to the point of the thread... All have built decent programs (Belmont again is struggling)... lots of support.  But had they been consolidated in the 70s and never had the opportunity to make all those 1a regional / semi state runs through the years... the enthusiasm and support would not be there.  Adams county today would feel more like Jay and Hunt.  1A is different that 4/5A

Norwell was lucky this year. former graduate (now going to school at IU for broadcast) came back for about every game and did the call. He was outstanding ... knew the game, knew the kids, knew the coaches and opponents, did his homework before the game.  Smooth in his delivery, interesting observations and critiques.  imo better than many I hear on Saturday and Sunday.  Derek Decker.  Remember the name.

52 minutes ago, NE8Fan said:

Combing the 3 Adams Co Schools would put the enrollment around 1400.  I think they would do very well in the 4A North.  This would probably be the Sectional they would fall into. 

Delta  FW South Side FW Wayne Huntington North Jay County  Marion  Mississinewa New Haven

As of today yes I agree.  All have built decent programs (Belmont again is struggling)... lots of support.  But I wonder...  if they had been consolidated in the 70s and never had the opportunity to make all those 1a regional / semi state runs through the years... would the enthusiasm and support still be there? Or would Adams county today feel more like Jay and Hunt? A couple sectional championships spread over 30 years is a lot different than multi semi state appearances.

53 minutes ago, oldtimeqb said:

You and @1st_and_10 want to make it a rural thing.  I think @DT's original point and the one I agree with (did I just say I agree with him???) is that schools that are the ONLY school in the "county" rarely have success.  

Switzerland

Brown

Crawford

Jay 

Union

Jennings

Owen Valley

Pike Central

Benton Central

Rushville 

Connersville

 

I am not saying a rural school or a school named _____ County won't have a good football program.  I just can't think of a school that is the ONLY public school in the county that has had football success. 

Interesting post.  Adams and Jay are next to each other.  Both are rural but Adams has Berne, Monroe and Decatur which house (1A) South Adams, (1A) Adam’s Central and (3A) Belmont all of whom have been to or won state.  Granted Belmont has been struggling. Other than Portland, Jay co is corn fields for as far as the eye can see.  Combine all 3 Adam’s co schools into 1 and perhaps the outcome is a underperforming 4-5A (just like Huntington North / Jay)?  

3 hours ago, CoachVeatch said:

The ACAC is no slouch. Regardless of the class next to the school very good and physical football is played there. A product of the importance placed on football in the greater Fort Wayne area. By the same token, Coach Z is not a loser. And I don't think he will be at Jay. Success might be defined differently than "dominating the conference" for a win starved Jay County. It's a great hire for both Jay County and the competitiveness to their conference as a whole. 

AC and SA are good programs.  ACAC is a very weak conference.  4 of the schools (Jay, Heritage, Woodlan and SW) look forward to playing each other in hopes of getting a win. pointing back to past varsity performance isn’t a very good indicator of what is to come (ie woodlan).  Look at the MS if u want to see what’s coming.  Woodlan and Bluffton can’t field full teams.  Talent pool gets quite shallow down south after next year as well.  4A numbers would be a HUGE advantage if he can connect with the kids and change the culture.  Hard to do sometimes.

1 hour ago, slicercoach said:

The bigger question is what figures are they going to use? Obviously this pandemic has the numbers skewed quite a bit. I certainly don't envy the IHSAA with trying to figure this one out!

 

What other numbers could they use other than current enrollment?

6 hours ago, NE8Fan said:

Anyone know when they come out?

M guessing Norwell moves out of 27 up to 4a with HN, SS, NH, Delta, Marion, etc.  anyone else in 27 close to moving out?

22 hours ago, DT said:

22 hours ago, DT said:

HN is 500 students larger than Leo and closer in competitive profile to the bigger SAC publics.  HN has been a gross under performer in football for a long time.  Ive always felt that with their excellent facillities and strong overall community support that they would break out at some point.  Remember that at one time Carmel chose to share a conference affiliation with HN in the Olympic.  

HN to me seems a lot like Warsaw.  Warsaw is climbing the competitive ladder as we speak.  I dont see why HN cant do the same.

HN dropped from 5 to 4A recently while Leo has grown from 2 to 4A over the past couple decades.  If they’d build a new school Leo would probably be 6A in 5-10 years.

17 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

No, you cant argue that. More kids play basketball by far than play football if you include all the teams.

Band is not a sport.   Football is just a weekly fall diversion. Didnt even have a state tournament until the 70s. 

Basketball is bigger than football in most every state. Illinois, for sure. 

   But we're not every state.   Our entire rural makeup as a state is intertwined with basketball. 

To win the Indiana state basketball championship means far more than ANY OTHER SPORT, not just football.

To win the Indiana state basketball champions means more than winning the NCAA title.

In our state, Basketball is life, my man..    

 

Lots of opinions here

2 hours ago, Lysander said:

I admit to being a “die hard old timer” but the days when Bobby Knight might show up at an Indiana HS gym and the surrounding communities talk about it for generations are long, long gone......and never coming back.  

The magic is gone.  I hate to break the, now decades old, news but HS basketball and IU basketball are empty husks of what they were.

The last time I went to a HS game those in attendance were parents, a handful of students and a bunch of football players who had earlier been lifting down in the weight room.

But they still wear the 5 stars on their shorts like it was yesterday. 😂

On 2/3/2021 at 12:52 AM, oldtimeqb said:

The question was geared towards out of conference opponents in the tournament and film from Hudl sent to them. That is what @POTLUCKwas getting at. 

So are you going to say that Southridge only had two game films of Mater Dei last time they played? Sorry, but I’m not buying that. 

Honestly, I don’t see the big deal, but some coaches can’t stand the thought of sharing film with a few clicks. Sure it feels good to meet at the 50 yard line before the game and swap VHS tapes. But I’m sure there were just as many extra dubbed copies floating around in those days too. 

Pretty obvious in the tournament that coaches are getting WAY more than last two weeks.  “How’d they know we run double passes when we haven’t ran it in 6 weeks?” 😂😂😂