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I mean, you’ve gotta take the modern era into account. Others won national titles before the forward pass became the cool thing to do. Also depends on your criteria. Guys like Chad Henne , Denard Robinson (a QB in name only) and John Navarre hold a lot of Michigan passing records because they were 3-4 year starters. Guys like Harbaugh, Brady, Dennis Franklin, Brian Griese and Scott Dreisbach won a lot of big games but don’t have the eye popping career stats of the others. Brady is EASILY top 10, probably top 5 if you just look at his Michigan career. Not trying to hijack the thread.

Split time with Drew Henson (who eventually was drafted by the New York Yankees and chose to play baseball by George Steinbrenner (who got his Master’s from O$U which has led to Michigan fans’ conspiracy theories.)) Henson was the most prized football quarterback in program history. Brady caught fire his senior year and won the job. 20-5 in games in which he appeared. Didn’t start em all. Lloyd Carr would actually split snaps by quarter with the two, lol.

In this case, they can. I’m all for the coach speak in many instances but not in this case. Their JV would win sectional 7…easily.

They have a bye to the regional…conference title hopes are gone… Its a one game season. Start prepping for CG NOW.

Nah, closer to top 5. He barely got drafted though…wasn’t “VERY good” I guess. (BTW: Book had a higher career win percentage at ND than Brady did at Michigan.)

Correct which sorta counters your prior statement. Book > Bennett, or at least equals. Book’s supporting cast < Bennett’s

HM (#29)

I mean, Stetson Bennett was a walk on, was booed early in his tenure at UGA and doesn’t exactly have eye popping stats. He was much better late in the season last year but it helps to be surrounded by 15 future draft picks. Book got ND to the playoff after all… Other than that I can’t think of too many other examples to argue your point.

Ball don’t lie.

In that case, you need to change your definition of “really good.” I’ll bail you out. Since 1887, 111 different quarterbacks have started at least 1 game under center for Notre Dame. Of those 111, 13 started at least 25 games and ONE (Tony Rice) has a higher career winning percentage than Ian Book. So yeah, “really good.”

Don’t duck the question. Gimme the list. Montana? Theismann? Buerlein? Mirer? Rice? Powlus? Rees?

Better, still not acceptable. Assume, as a lifelong Notre Dame fan, that you have a list of quarterbacks on hand that you would rank as better than Book? Can’t be a long list, especially since the turn of the century.

You have to be “really good” for a GM to risk his reputation and sign checks for you to play for them. At the time he left Notre Dame, he was “really good.” No other way to spin it.

So I win too? Just admit you held Wentz to a different standard because of his vaccination status because he played the most prominent position on the field and therefore was an easy target. Then we can all move on.

10 quarterbacks were taken in the 2021 NFL draft…there are 260 FBS/FCS teams in college football. I’ll let you do the math. Spoiled.

I’ll let him do the dirty work. If he provides the receipts you still gonna be in denial?

I mean, not everyone can make it in the NFL. You are talking 100 QBs. Just because he got cut doesn’t mean he was somehow terrible.

You should be thrilled with that based on what I’ve seen.

“You win?” An admission of defeat. The man is just offering to show you the recruits of WHY he won.

Might not make it through the week.

Irrelevant.

How bad is Auburn? Taking nothing away from Penn State but all I heard this off season was that their offensive line was putrid and would hold them back yet they steam rolled Auburn’s defense. Could not run against Purdue yet they put up 250 on Auburn?

8-4 is still on the table…unlikely but still possible.

&$@? BYU is rich considering the volleyball story that was just proven to be false.

Purdue just can’t get out of its own way. Should easily be 3-0.