Bash Riprock

Dang it Irish....must have been cutting some onions during my lunchtime at work. Seriously, thank you for sharing...... We need an emoji for "wow" or "are you kidding me?"

Actually, I really didn't have any feelings about the source listed....just simply pointing out that the sad news was everywhere. A young man with a beautiful wife and guessing a wonderful family tragically lost his life....with his whole life ahead of him. I think we as father's on this forum can feel the sadness in a young person's life that is suddenly lost. I need to do a better job personally empathizing with all young lives lost when I read it in the paper or hear the story on the news. All of us love football, especially high school football on this forum. I just hope all of us remember what is important, and that we have much more in common than we do different. And so what if we see the world differently....makes it far less boring. Please call me out when I forget this......

I am the observer that hopes OSU and Michigan beat each other senseless to a 0-0 tie. When both teams play, its a Joe Dirt mullet convention.....

I do have to wonder....has Michigan scheduled FCS games since their loss to App State back in the day? (before App State became FBS) I am glad that FBS teams do schedule some games against FCS opponents...it gives the FCS kids an experience playing at the "big time" while also giving them some additional exposure. NFL rosters have quite a few players from FCS schools. To be honest, I am not sure the benefit for a FBS school to do this, other than to perhaps rest some players and get some non-regulars playing time. They write a nice check to the FCS school, may get less fans in the stands for the game, and if they are upset or played closely, its a big negative for them.

My wife says the "boys" are just fine. she keeps them in her purse. I haven't seen them in awhile....

hardly the first FCS school to play a FBS school. SEC schedules them every year near end of the season. Didn't Samford embarrass Florida last year by dropping 50+ on them? Indiana State plays a FBS team every year...they play at Purdue in 2022. Great experience for the kids and the programs need the $$.

I believe it was Frank Beamer when he was head coach at Murray State (FCS) once quoted....."Alabama needs a victory and we need a new weight room." What an experience for Tenn State to play in ND stadium.

Have seen the announcements from a variety of sources on Twitter. 24 years old....tragic.

It was simply adding on to the impact of NIL isn't limited to high school....you stopped short with your comparison. I simply stated that the comparison doesn't end in high school. That is why I don't see an apple to apple comparison. Just sharing an opinion on a forum. Nothing negative intended.

I understand...but i am extending the benefit over college, because that are being paid NIL, not for their high school accomplishments, but more about their potential at the next level

talking about when they get to college...not the expense for high school

that wasn't my point....probably wasn't good with explaining myself I didn't align 100% with your example, as there is a vast difference with a student (athlete) earning big bucks from NIL, vs the average student working in the library, cafe, etc. The student athlete (such as football, bball, etc) starts with a full scholarship already covering tuition and boar, so the big NIL bucks is disposable income. The avg student isn't afforded a scholarship, so any money they make working extra hours during the day is far less disposable. I don't disagree that people should be thinking about the future cost of an education....and probably high school is too late. I am not at odds necessarily with the NIL....just don't see it the same for an athlete vs non-athlete, assuming the athlete is getting some or all of their education paid for by scholarship

Except that the majority of the non-athletes don't already have a full or partial ride for their college tuition and living expenses. While there may be some similarities in your comparison....I don't see quite see it as apple to apple. Additionally, most athletes and especially those outside the D1 bigger programs won't experience this benefit.

Yep....not a fan of his leadership. But in this case I do agree that variability in this case presents challenges toward a fair playing field. Comments last year from Gonzaga's Mark Few https://theathletic.com/news/gonzagas-mark-few-says-varying-nil-laws-disastrous-lead-to-unfair-advantages/jZpV9x2IAHf0/ University of Illinois professor weighs in...... https://sports.yahoo.com/system-balance-time-revisit-college-135007831.html

While I am not much of a fan of Emmert, I do agree in this case consistency is needed, given the variability of state laws. https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/33641798/mark-emmert-says-ncaa-congress-work-together-move-nationwide-nil-uniformity

See…we are aligned that some athletes at a number of colleges have different admittance standards than the general student. Took some time…glad we got there.

Nice ride Gonzo…too bad they don’t have a charging station for you. 😉

I understand the thread. Academies loose athletes every year through the portal. You challenged my comments on admissions....just shared my experiences that you still wished to debate. I never disagreed your theory about the additional Covid year. Not saying I agree or disagree. Only time will tell I guess.

I'll try to do better....BTW, I didn't just reference service academies and Ivy's. Anyone going through the recruiting process will understand the school is neither when they talk to a room full of parents about meeting the NCAA minimums. I don't ever remember our non-athlete children going on college visits and us being talked to about just meeting NCAA minimum criteria for admittance. 🙄

Believe what you want to believe....go back and re-read. Do you really think the Ivy's and the academies were talking to parents about NCAA minimums for admission??? C'mon. Yes, the Ivy's do not give athletic scholarships....but they still have admission requirements....and those are absolutely flexed around "bands". (at our time, 4 different bands A-D around the mean admission standards) Additionally, the Ivy's absolutely work around not providing athletic scholarships through "aid".....this I know firsthand. That aid can be substantial based upon the recruit. To be clear...I am not saying ALL institutions or for ALL sports. My experience was with football recruiting....and that included a number of state and private institutions. I'm not trying to sell you. Go out and get your own experiences.

I lived through the recruiting process as well for a child....I know what I heard in rooms about meeting NCAA minimums for admission. Had the process of banding around the mean student admission acceptance criteria explained at Ivy League schools and know first hand while still high standards, football players go through a different application review process at the service academies than a general admission applicant. Perhaps this is more for revenue generating sports....but since this is a football forum, talking that sport only from personal experience. Lots of info out there about this....use your fav search engine.

ok...I hope that statement was an attempt at humor...seems a little extreme. Wasn't long ago that a student athlete could transfer, but had to lay out a year. But they could always transfer. In the Big 10 conference, wasn't that long ago that a student could transfer, but lost the scholarship. I believe Jeff George experienced this leaving Purdue for Illinois. I don't think anyone is arguing for the abolishment of the ability to transfer.....but for perhaps some accountability for their decisions which hopefully will result in a higher degree of dedication and perseverance. I thought the rule the old rule of laying out a year for staying at the same level of play was just fine. Let's be honest...athletes in many cases, don't have to meet the same academic criteria that the non-athlete needs to be admitted to an institution. In a high % of schools, NCAA minimums won't get the average student admitted. So there is already an admittance break that has been afforded to many athletes. Show some level of gratitude and moxie to compete before giving up and heading to "greener pastures". Only an opinion.....

Great thoughts.... we pretty much align...I totally agree about having an excellent TE. Speaking of GB, sure hope the former Indiana State guy Robert Tonyan comes back 100%. Seems he and Rogers have a nice connection. No doubt Tyreek Hill benefited from Kelce. But I also think Kelcey benefited from Hill. Hill kept safeties honest, while opening up the underneath for Kelce. LB's can't hang with him. Guess we shall see how Kelce does this year as clearly the #1 target. Hey, we see the importance of speed differently for a WR corp. If I am an offensive coordinator, and I can stretch the field, I will absolutely do it. Opens up the slot, TE, short to middle routes, and the running backs sure appreciate it as well. I don't need all of my WR's to be blazers....but I would sure like one or two to get some attention. I just hope Campbell can finally be that guy for the Colts.

Not questioning David Bell at all. I have personally seen him play a ton of football and basketball games during his WC days. Great athlete and great young man. I know what he did at Purdue. So I don't question he will be a success. The question I am raising is that having both he and Pittman would be having 2 of the same type of receivers. They are both excellent, but I question their abilities to stretch the field and force the safeties to play deeper. This is where we may disagree that speed matters. Perhaps it was a bad day for his 40. Pittman ran a 4.52 for his 40 (considerably faster than Bell) and he is not considered a field stretch type of receiver. To ignore Bell's 4.65 40 would not be wise. Reggie Wayne ran a 4.45 40. And yet Harrison with a 4.38 was typically considered the deep threat. All I am saying is that I am not sure to compare Bell to Harrison (a proven HOF guy) is a good comparison...at least yet. Colts have a pretty darn good WR coach.....my guess is that Ballard and Reich will certainly listen to his input. But please know I am a David Bell fan....and not saying the Colts would be wrong for drafting him. Just hoping they can find a WR with great hands that puts fear into a secondary.

I did read Bell's interest. Great character guy, playing for his home town team and catches everything that comes his way sounds awesome. I agree there are some comparisons with Harrison in terms of hands and route running. But they are very different physically. Bell is much bigger than Harrison, but Harrison was timed in the 40 at 4.38 while still at Syracuse. He could definitely stretch the field. The 4.65 40 Bell ran at the combine does raise eyebrows, and would seem to be more of a possession receiver. It would be great to have him, but I hope the Colts find that receiver that makes the safeties respect and play deeper. I hope that is Campbell.....and he can stay healthy. I like Bell a ton, but hard to compare him now to a HOF player.