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They're just able to because they work harder than everyone else and pay for their own school lunch or something like that.

Two people had something drawn up that makes a lot of sense and is the same, looks like the IHSAA is gonna have to go a whole different route. Nice goin fellas 😉

No, it was a good pitch. You just have to think about the same problem that arises with the coaches poll every year. Unfortunately as coaches, you don't have all the time in the world. You also don't see a lot of the teams in your sectional. Yes you can have an idea of who is good but you don't necessarily get to see them on film, see who they play, etc. so trying to have the coaches seed a sectional would be difficult if you don't see everyone because records can be deceiving. Not to mention opinions of other schools, relationships between coaches, I have respect for a lot of coaches all over the state. I also know other coaches I trust about as far as I can throw them if you are catching where I'm going with this.

This wouldn't work

About the only state outside of Indiana i have a little bit of knowledge on is Illinois. From what I know, they don't have a lot of conference games. They travel a lot to play teams within their class. Because of conferences being the majority(for some schools the entirety) of the schedule, in some cases I just think things would get interesting in terms of who gets different seeds. Obviously we could go by different rating systems, but at the end of the day, if two good teams didn't play each other and one got in and the other didn't because of that rating system, you're gonna have some pissed off coaches. If we go to the 1-16 seeding for all classes and do away with all-in, one thing that could help would be having a week 10 regular season game to schedule more of those out of conference games.

Any idea what Knox has coming back up front? I know they got some dudes at the skilled positions, but I think they lose some good lineman up front.

Graduating 16 seniors a lot of really good talent and size at the skilled positions, 7 guys on both sides of the ball combined with consistent varsity experience will be coming back. I don't think they will be as good as last year, no doubt will be a tough game for anyone, but not quite the talent coming back that they had last year.

They also wrestle 30 matches a year. Usually after 30 matches you see a decent amount of the schools in your sectional and have a good idea of who is the dude to beat in the sectional. Not as easy to do with 9 games.

Good luck finding something else

4-7 no, at least 8-1 tho my friend 😉

I'm not trying to be a smartass here. Snider had 52 points scored on them in the postseason. I assume you are saying backups were in for the other scores, or were the other touchdowns defensive scores and special teams by the other team? If so, that's a lot of points the offense/special teams is giving to the other team.

Yawn....Chatard

Been drinkin a lot of high quality H20 (and a shit ton of Busch Light) and watching the NFL playoffs. Been tryin to get back into hockey, but just can't do it with my Blackhawks struggling somethin awful. They need an enforcer on their team just don't have one. I knew a guy once who would be perfect for them. Could hardly skate and shoot, but was tough as nails. Can't remember the guys name. Ended up being a hell of a golfer tho.

If less than 2,000 students in 162 of the 290 schools in our state is what makes you feel unpleasant and keeps you up at night, I'd love to have your life.

My mama said you talkin bout the wrong fooseball. We only talk about one fooseball on the digest! Sounds like Seymour and Jasper should have 15-20 different place kickers and punters on their depth chart.

Dang, Cathedral fell off, y'all are about as good at football as public schools now.

Looking at the website, it says June 19-22nd, and it says the camp is already full. Is this something that needs to be updated, or is the camp already full?

True, got me there

There are 5A and 6A private schools. Stop saying dumb things, you're making p/p lovers on here look bad.

I would agree! Both probably deserved it. Tough year of football in 3A. A lot of good players. Tough first round in the sectionals didn't help Peru's players cause at all. I'm sure who they got beat out by were more than deserving of the award as well. Fingers crossed the two can make it on their region all star team.

Wonder if the QB from Peru was put up. Would have liked to see him make it. Great dual threat player. Averaged 28 yards a pass and almost 7 yards a rush. Didn't get a lot of snaps in the 4th quarter because of the lead they had on most teams they played.

I don't know that he gets drafted. Definitely will have teams interested in him. Just not sure they will use a draft pick on him.

Agreed, this will definitely be a problem moving forward. Not to get off topic because I know this was in a separate thread, but any idea on why the IHSAA did this? The only thing I can come up with is to make it easier for public schools to get back down to their enrollment class. I know it sounds bad, but typically public schools don't have too much success that I can remember when they are the ones success factored up. Maybe Webo and Pioneer had a little success that I can remember. Any other schools I'm missing that SF up and had sectional championship and higher success?

Thank you for posting this. When looking at your LCC paragraph I'm not sure what the answer was prior to the four-peat. Just a little bit before my time. Obviously the game of football has changed just a little bit since then, so the style of play could have factored into that possibly. My dad has always told me at the end of the day, no matter how good of a coach you are, if you don't have some dudes on your team, making a deep run in the tournament is difficult. The stars and sectionals can all aline, because we are in Indiana, for you to get a good draw and make a deep run with an average team and really good coaching. But eventually you are gonna run into a team with better dudes than you have. My only argument and frustration comes from the rate at which some of these p/p's, not all of them which you did a great job of pointing out and going into detail about, are reloading year after year. Can public schools do it to an extent? Yes but it doesn't seem to always happen as quickly as the p/p's. When an off year for a team is a sectional and regional championship, I'd say that ain't too bad. I agree. We shouldn't just throw all the p/p's in their own division because I stated this in another thread early in the season when in the right class they make the class as a whole and the football in it better. Example, take a look at Rochester over the past four years. Started 0-10 four years ago. Every year the mindset is we have to beat LCC, everything that is done is to beat them. Haven't been able to do it, but we have reaped the rewards in the regular season by winning a lot more games because of what the mindset is leading up to the season and the work put in. Chatard in 3A a little different. Unlike LCC, Chatard hasn't been able to stay up in 4A, so they come back down right when things seem to be looking up and rattle off two more state championships and then its back to 4A. So how do we fix this? I think we have to realign sectionals and classes every year. Put the SF on a 4 year cycle like many have said, but the one adjustment is if a team wins a state championship move them up into the next class the following year. Where it gets hairy is how to determine keeping the team up or down and for how long in that remaining 3 or less years. This is something I wouldn't be good at determining but maybe someone could help me out with this part. I think this would help with those 2 peat public teams that have a good class that wins two state championships and then dips for the classes under them to get beat up on for two straight years. It also gives a Chatard more time to see if they can break through that 4A wall they can't seem to get through. It also gets a team out of a class faster after winning a state championship. Again not perfect, put it's a suggestion to this problem we think we have that can move the stronger p/p's around easier while not punishing those that aren't the strongest football programs.

You would be correct on that as well