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Understandable, however, will those have any affect on all-conference eligibility? Not being eligible for the conference championship to me means you are no longer apart of that conference. If that is the case, one could argue you can no longer put up players for all-conference. I would hope players are still eligible, but just a thought I'm sure the other schools might bring up when voting on players.

I would just for the fact that anything they could get from those conferences, they have in the TRC already. Recently Wabash and Whitko have been towards the bottom of the conference most years. Joining those conferences would be a lot of the same. The others are able to be competitive in the TRC every other year. I don't think they would be able to do that in the other two conferences. I will say the Wabash schools are going to do whatever they agree on. So if you get one you're going to get the other three. I just don't think 3 of them would think it's a good idea which would mean that the one that might be interested would end up staying if that makes sense.

All good, just wondered what your reasoning was. I assumed it was due to Harding's success. If my memory serves me right, that's where a lot of the Harding students went to when the school closed down correct?

South Side has won two sectionals and a regional in their school history. Not sure that fits my definition of showing out. Are you including what Harding did during their time as a school as South Side?

Nothing would happen with the TRC. I don't know much about the other conferences. I can only speak for the TRC.

It is frustrating, but gotta do what you gotta do for yourself and your family.

Pretty sure this was the regional game. So more like trip to the semi-state on the line. Then Pioneer beat South Adams 31-14 so you could say South Adams got what they deserved. You could say North Miami missed out on a Regional Championship, however they lost to Pioneer 22-41 in the regular season so they probably would've lost the next week. This basically boils down to a lot of what-ifs. Is it a shame? Yes. Can we change it now? No. Did the refs miss the call? Yes. Are they human and make mistakes? Yes. Can we now move on? I hope so.

Not an IU fan, was happy for them this year, big Cignetti fan tho(just for context of what I'm about to say). Listened and watch practice film from the IU DB coach at the state clinic. Watching Ponds in drills as a DB coach myself brought a tear to my eye. The kid is amazing. Brings a different physicality to the corner position that I feel has gone away in today's college and pro game. Anyone who gets him I look forward to watching how his professional career goes. Not a Bears fan either, but would be cool if Ponds played for them. I think he would gel with the mentality the Bears and their organization has right now.

Was unaware of this. This might be a more dominant dynasty than Cael Sanderson and the Penn State wrestling program.

I'm sure they will bounce back, the great programs always due. Even all the way up here in Rochester Indiana, the northerners know to respect Linton football.

I would think Glenn will be announced soon. I keep hearing they have found their guy. No idea who it is or if they have released anything on it yet.

They also had the right team at the right time. What if this last year was one of the random years Chatard is back down in 3A. Does Cascade win 3A then? What if Heritage Hills was down in 3A? They're team could have beaten any 3A team on any given night.

I hope so. The conference is stronger when the Knights have good football teams.

Kilroys probably fits better anyway for the liquid diet you stick to.

Three of the four sectional champions from the North in 2A are now in 3A. The other one was moved to the South along with a couple of new faces moving from 1A to 2A. Will be interesting who the favorites for 2A are that emerge. I would say the Brownstown Central has to be one due to going to state last year. Not sure what they return from last years team. You also have the 1A state champions in South Putnam in the South as well. Lapel played in the semi-state game last year in the South. They are now in a North Sectional. I would say they are the favorites in the North.

I have a feeling his solution is going to be to hell with classes. The problem is solved by having one big state playoff and one champion lol.

Hopefully the answer is not poaching players.

I understand where @btownqbcoach1 is coming from. It's in the rules unfortunately. I don't know what you do to solve it other than nothing. You can't write in a rule that says you only move up if you have the correct amount of points and win a state title. What would happen if Luers was in 3A next year and they lose in the state championship again. Well they didn't win a state title, so we have to keep them in 3A. Process repeats, stay in 3A, process repeats...It's a slippery slope that a team like Luers is more than capable of doing. Now in that time do I think they would finally win one maybe. But let's look at it this year. Who could beat Luers in 3A North this year? Andrean? Maybe. Then get to the state championship lose to a potential team like Chatard. Same thing the following year. Eventually you have to move them up. We have the system in place for that whether it's right or wrong. Luers needs to look in the mirror and ask themselves "we made it to state twice and didn't win either one. What do we need to change to make sure that doesn't happen again."

I'll agree with you that it doesn't make sense to not win a state title and get moved up, but to say that it is the end all be all for Luers is ridiculous. They have proven in their conference and in playoff play that they can punch well beyond their enrollment. Obviously they are well coached and have athletes year in and year out to win. If they don't, they will be in 3A soon enough again for another go round at the 3A state title. There are schools that are still looking for one state title to show at their school. They still put their heads down and get to work every year in hopes of it being their year. I think Luers and their fans are just getting a small taste of what most of the schools in Indiana feel every year. The odds stacked against you, how are you going to respond? Throw a fit and say it can't be done, or find a way to make it happen at the next level you have to face. You are a passionate fan of Notre Dame from what I have seen in other threads. Did Notre Dame get cheated out of the college football playoffs? Absolutely, the second the bracket was shown and they weren't on it, Freeman had them with their heads down pushing and working already for the next year.

So other schools have to suffer and lose good players because poor Luers didn't get treated fairly? What are the phrases the p/p schools use? Stop complaining and get better I think it is.

In all fairness, I'm not sure there is a sectional in the state that Frankfort would be considered a wolf in.

Yes, I was thinking the same thing. Now will it make sense to draw it up that way by the committee? Nah probably not lol

How do you think they will match up the sectionals for regional meetings? Last two years it was setup almost like the two sectionals in the eastern part of the state for North and South would play and the two sectionals in the western part would meet up. To me, east west meeting for regional seems more of a possibility this year than the north/south regional matchups from last year.

Sounds like he has to be moved. The value the Raiders are going to get for him has significantly dropped now due to this circumstance. Either that or they have to shave fat off somewhere else to keep him.

You're spot on. I think the trade off for cap space and what you could get in the draft was greater than what Franklin brings to the table. Good LB absolutely, game changer no not really. The Colts must have thought he wasn't worth the $6 million this year and the $8 million the following. I would agree, but it wouldn't be hard to argue the other way as well.