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What? I love going to the Jewell in November! The long drive west through the harvested fields with rolls of hay painted in support of the Titans, seeing the lights, being harassed by Gibson Co. deputies for tailgating when the GS faithful are 50 yards away with open containers. Its great! In 2013 when I was coaching middle school we had a Saturday night double header vs. Mt. Carmel at the Snake Pit. Didn't see any snakes but the mosquitos were so bad I felt like I was in the Okefenokee Swamp.

If Enlow is just alright, then the Jewell is just a patch of turf in a cornfield...

Great info. Thanks!

Central imploded. The lack of discipline from the head coach on down is what beat them.

Bogey net par maybe.

No question. And in 2017 too. It would be interesting to see 2017 SR v EM and GS v Central.

And the PAC thread is the same with GS dads (and you). So what? In 2013 the PAC was stronger, no question. After SR beat MD I thought for sure you would make LOS.

Oh no you didn't. LOL.

LOL. Mater Dei will likely return to LOS again in 2022. In 3 years in 4A Memorial has 1 state title, lost to the state champs, and made sectional final in 2020 COVID year. Plus enrollment is up. Keep trying.

It's a conference argument. I not proving Memorial is anything other than in a better conference. Personally, I'd have us #3 or #4 behind MD, GS, and maybe Jasper. I'll agree EM and GS were pretty close competitively in 2017 (and in 2016). They weren't in 2012-2014 or 2018. Can I assume you agree 8-2 HH was pretty close competitively with 3-7 Bosse in 2021? And can we agree all we really have is head to head, whether it's actual (in the case of 2A teams) or mythical, right? So go through last season and match 'em up - PAC v SIAC (throw out Washington and Pike Central who combined for 1 W). I'll give you GS beats Jasper. Where is another PAC W? Yep, and since he didn't come to Memorial he has full eligibility.

I don't think you see the point being made. In 2017 the SIAC #1 beat the PAC #1 head to head. PAC #2 beat SIAC #4. And 812 is not an SIAC homer... LOL.

Which illustrates how much deeper the SIAC is than the PAC. Our second place conference teams were in 2A state finals and 4A semi-state. See the difference?

What do you mean 812 is an SIAC guy? He covers as much PAC as SIAC. Maybe HH is ranked where they are because 8-2 Heritage Hills squeaked out a 1 TD win against 3-7 Bosse last year. C'mon man. I don't understand why the GS folks get so wound up trying to make this PAC = SIAC argument. GS is the one (and only) PAC school that would compete in the SIAC. You don't need to try to make the PAC out to be something better than it is to legitimize GS.

Indiana SRN is streaming all 9 Ev. Memorial games.

Heard Reitz is concerned they haven't seen as much improvement as they hoped in their D. Can't win if you give up 35 points a game..

I don't disagree with you on the competitive balance. SF hasn't changed all that much.

Chatard was in 3A in 2017 & 2018. We like to think they won 3A in 2019 because we were in 4A.. Just kidding. I have great respect for BC.

I'm aware of a case where both schools said it was not athletically motivated, yet public school did not sign the waiver. IHSAA was very interested in the relative success of the two schools when it came to the IHSAA appeal. The Commish made a point of making sure the review committee knew which program was enjoying sustained success and which program was on the decline. Down here, it very much depends on where the student wants to transfer.

I agree with DT that its an endless, unwinnable argument, but it does pass the time... Over the last few years, GS would clearly have been in the discussion for an SIAC title. Who else from the PAC?

But will they still do this? https://twitter.com/TrojanMediaPro1/status/1459611301072838658?s=20&t=2cVJn1z5ovm8AfueO6mj1Q

The IHSAA gets no revenue from the Sectionals. They get almost all the revenue from Regional, Semi-State and State. Its why they have no incentive to devote what little brain power they have to a seeding plan for sectional.

You do?

It seems to be a logical spot for Vincennes Lincoln to find a better competitive fit.

That is the "displacement theory" the IHSAA Commissioner relies on in part to deny full eligibility transfers.

Mr. & Mrs. 812 are the King and Queen of local HS sports media.